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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Mar 23 22:39:01 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 22:18:05 2012.

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Picking a different vp couldn't have hurt. It might've helped McCain, if he wasn't too busy being too nice to Obama.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 22:40:20 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 23 22:20:00 2012.

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My question is why are the republicans a bunch of fascist papists?

You're on a roll tonight . . . try the other continent if you want to find those.

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Re: Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 23 22:42:53 2012, in response to Re: Santorum endorses Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 23 14:57:56 2012.

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LOL! Worked up!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 23:51:02 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by grand concourse on Fri Mar 23 22:37:41 2012.

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Ya gotta admit though that the republicans lately are making the libertarians look sane. :)

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 23:55:34 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 22:40:20 2012.

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If you can't see that Santorum is precisely what you're claiming Germany is up to, wow. :(

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 09:27:50 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by WillD on Fri Mar 23 18:59:03 2012.

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Even if the primary does not go into the convention a sizeable fraction of the 20 to 30 percent of the nation normally counted on as loyal Republican voters, likely the right wing Christian fundamentalists Sanctorum appeals to, may well stay home on election day.

Wrong.

You are greatly underestimating another big chunk of the GOP electoral base, that is the racists.

Nothing will keep such people from their last chance of voting out the illegitimate Kenyan Negroid.

you think it's loyalty to lobbyists, financiers or Christian proselytizers that are gonna determine the votes of the likes of OBS, LuchAAA, vfrt or chicagomotorman?

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 09:57:30 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 09:27:50 2012.

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I have no real understanding of how big the racist block is. But I think it overlaps only slightly with the fundamentalist block. In cotnrast to 50 years ago, most racists don't go to church nowadays.



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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 10:03:11 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 09:57:30 2012.

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But I think it overlaps only slightly with the fundamentalist block. In cotnrast to 50 years ago, most racists don't go to church nowadays.

Exactly.
The "staying home" theory would be valid if the other nominee were not a black man.

A lot of the non-churchgoing racists would stay home if Romney's opponent were Biden or Hillary.


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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 26 11:19:20 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 09:57:30 2012.

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Think about every man and women.
Almost all have a touch of bias in their hearts. Some more that others.
Was the big turnout, for Obama, by the black community, just to be a part of history?
It is racist, to vote for someone, because of color, just as to vote against him, because of color.

A race card is race Card. Some have many in their deck.
Obama has to expect religion cards, health cards, sovereignty cards, nationalism cards, and economy cards to trump his Dodge the truth with a race cards.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 11:32:49 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 26 11:19:20 2012.

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It is racist, to vote for someone, because of color, just as to vote against him, because of color.

It is not racist (though it is often foolish) to vote for someone out of pride in your ethnic group. Greek-Americans voted far more Democratic in 1988 than any other year, and no one called them racist.

It would be more reprehensible to vote against someone because of their ethnicity, whether that is due to skin color or national origin. Because then it's not due to pride but due to hatred.

PS. I think voting for your ethnic group is usually dumb. But I think it originates is foolish motives, not ill-intentioned ones.






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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:01:53 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 11:32:49 2012.

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Nonsense. If a white person votes for the white candidate because he's white and the other one is black, but he does it because the first guy is "white" it would be racist.
However society thinks the opposite is acceptible....voting for Obama because he's black.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 12:08:51 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:01:53 2012.

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So it's OK for Greek-Americans to have ethnic pride but not African-Americans?


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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 26 12:24:48 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:01:53 2012.

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Is ethnic pride racism then? Some would argue it is.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by JayMan on Mon Mar 26 12:45:28 2012, in response to Santorum endorses Obama, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 23 09:56:33 2012.

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Great plan!

First smart thing I've seen Santorum say!

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Re: Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by JayMan on Mon Mar 26 12:47:40 2012, in response to Re: Santorum endorses Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 23 14:57:56 2012.

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Hey Republican voters gave Santorum traction when they couldn't settle on who they can substitute instead of Mitt Romney...

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:53:20 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 12:08:51 2012.

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No, I am saying that it's not. If a white person votes for a white person if their's a black running, if they say they are voting "because he's greek, white, or whatever", it would be labeled "racism", but the same won't be said if a Black votes for a Black candidate because he's Black. Then of course it's "Black Pride". White Pride is "racism".



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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:55:26 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 26 12:24:48 2012.

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The difference is that that many ethnicities also happen to be white. Black seems to be lumped into all Black ethnicities, but white isn't.

You don't hear someone saying "I am voting for someone because he's Kenyan". But you will hear "Italian", but technically, those aren't parallel. Italians are whites.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 12:59:22 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 09:27:50 2012.

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LuchAAA

What makes you think skin color is what drives me to vote? I would have voted against Hillary too. I would vote against a lot of white Democrats.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 13:06:17 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 09:27:50 2012.

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LuchAAA,

besides why are you attacking me? I have little to say about Obama these days.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 26 13:06:21 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 12:59:22 2012.

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When liberals fail to successfully attack your point of view, their only recourse is to attack you, personally. It's in their genetic make-up.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 13:11:13 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:55:26 2012.

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I'm an Italian with a white appearance so it's different. I can blend in with regular white people. Italians are "ethnics" to most of America. "Ethnic" in appearance, name, values, etc......

I think most leftists would say that Italians have no right to vote based ethnicity because they have not known the suffering blacks, gays, Latinos and women have known in this country. The groups I have mentioned have a licence to vote based on race or gender. Everyone else is a racist and sexist. THIW.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 26 13:13:09 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 13:11:13 2012.

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I vote for Jews because they have German names :P

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 20:15:55 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 12:59:22 2012.

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What makes you think skin color is what drives me to vote?

just about every post you've ever made here.

I would have voted against Hillary too. I would vote against a lot of white Democrats.

Indeed.
But only because they're pro-equality.

You have stated multiple times the reasons why you will never again vote for a Democrat.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 20:18:32 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 26 11:32:49 2012.

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It would be more reprehensible to vote against someone because of their ethnicity, whether that is due to skin color or national origin. Because then it's not due to pride but due to hatred.

Outstanding post!








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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 20:21:41 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 26 13:13:09 2012.

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In Presidential elections, I only vote for people whose last names end with a vowel.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 26 20:33:09 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 12:59:22 2012.

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I would have voted against Hillary too

You hate women too.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 26 23:10:36 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 26 20:15:55 2012.

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Indeed.
But only because they're pro-equality.

You have stated multiple times the reasons why you will never again vote for a Democrat.


Affirmative Action is not pro-equality. Not the way it's used to prevent people from being hired, promoted, or accepted into academic institutions. I'm against reverse discrimination.

And I hardly complain about Obama these days.



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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 27 09:15:25 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:01:53 2012.

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Only White people are capable of being racist, don't you know... ;)

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 27 09:16:33 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 26 12:24:48 2012.

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They are one and the same. Ethnic pride implies hatred, or at least some degree of denigration for other groups. Racism is the result of that.

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Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 27 10:31:00 2012, in response to Re: Left-wing media tries to make it look like Santorum endorses Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 26 12:01:53 2012.

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However society thinks the opposite is acceptible....voting for Obama because he's black.

If that's true, why didn't Cynthia McKinney or Alan Keyes get more black votes?

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