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Re: 1 for 2 Rocky Balboa Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 2 20:03:06 2012, in response to Re: 1 for 2 Rocky Balboa Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 2 02:39:35 2012.

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What vendetta?

LOL @ vendetta like we're some fucking lowlife farmers from families who have been feuding for generations.

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Re: 1 for 2 Rocky Balboa Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 2 20:06:28 2012, in response to Re: 1 for 2 Rocky Balboa Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 2 02:36:58 2012.

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"A cartoon..........and so are you."

Yes....we know TD as our in-house ELMER FUDD. :)



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Re: 1 for 2 Rocky Balboa Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 2 20:07:57 2012, in response to Re: 1 for 2 Rocky Balboa Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 2 18:38:53 2012.

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"There is no proof that you exist. I have my suspicions."

Have you eaten your oatmeal yet like a good lil boy should be....go listen to mommy now!



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Re: Steelers Loss Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 8 20:34:15 2012, in response to Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, "A Joke", posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 31 15:32:31 2011.

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Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 16:12:25 2012, in response to Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, "A Joke", posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 31 15:32:31 2011.

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Nahhhh....it's SMAZ who's the crazy one when he has pointed this out repeatedly.

This merits League investigation since it altered the competitive balance.
As I've said before, (in my opening statement in this thread and elsewhere within it) because of this anti-sporting precedent, the NFL may have to force teams to adopt minimum measurable criteria (like QB ratings after a minimum number of season passes and plays) in order to avoid "starts by popularity" instead of by merit.

Otherwise it's the Broncos as WWE.

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GQ: Brady Quinn Debunks Year Of The Tebow: 'We've Had A Lot Of ... Luck'



The Tim Tebow debate has raged into the off-season, and by now we know the usual detractors: guys like Terrell Suggs, Nick Barnett, Shawne Merriman, Brady Quinn ...

Wait. What?

That's right, in a thoroughly reported feature by Yahoo! Sports NFL writer Michael Silver in the March issue of GQ, one of the Tebow critics is actually fellow Denver Broncos quarterback Brady Quinn.

And it's not just one subtle jab, either. Early in his piece, Silver gets Quinn talking about how Tebow got promoted to starter:

Early in the season, there was a game when Kyle [Orton] got hurt and the coaches were calling for me to go in, but Kyle got up and finished the game out. So I was the second-string guy. Then, a few weeks later, they decided to put Tim in. I felt like the fans had a lot to do with that. Just ’cause they were chanting his name. There was a big calling for him. No, I didn't have any billboards. That would have been nice.

Silver continues on with an oral history of the season, sprinkling in choice quotes from the likes of Kurt Warner (who compares Tebow to a character in the Bible) and Suggs (who calls Tebow "terrible").

Then it's back to Quinn, who demystifies Tebow's late-game prowess:

The entire game, the defensive line is chasing the quarterback around, and that wears down the pass rush. Meanwhile, the defensive backs are chasing receivers, but you only throw eight passes, so they start to feel lazy. It only takes that one play, that one big pass, for a touchdown.

To be sure, others in the story feel similarly. Merriman, of the Bills, tells Silver, "His teammates are making him look a lot better than he is." Suggs, of the Ravens, says, "No matter how many bad games Tim Tebow is gonna have, it’s 'He’s great.' I'll never understand it."

But the most glaring quotes -- though not the most hard-hitting -- come from Quinn.

In one passage, Broncos star linebacker Von Miller gives credit to the team -- "I mean, you could just see our team's resiliency in action. Nobody was giving up" -- and then Quinn offers a different reason for the Broncos' surge: "We’ve had a lot of, I guess, luck, to put it simply."

Now, Quinn isn't saying anything that hasn't been thought by pretty much everyone. Tebow didn't win football games with dominance or cunning. It's hard to pin his leadership on anything other than his all-world will and, as Warner suggests, "divine intervention." But in this story we have everyone in the Broncos organization, from coach John Fox to president John Elway to Miller, saying all the right things. Then there's the backup quarterback, Brady Quinn.

And not everything Quinn says is about football. The former Notre Dame star also questions how Tebow prays.

"If you look at it as a whole," he tells Silver, "there's a lot of things that just don't seem very humble to me. When I get that opportunity, I'll continue to lead not necessarily by trying to get in front of the camera and praying but by praying with my teammates, you know?"

Will Quinn get that opportunity? Fox says he wants two new quarterbacks to contend for the top job in Denver in the fall. So despite leading his team to a playoff victory, Tebow will have plenty of headwinds when training camp opens.

And it's likely not all of the doubters will be outside the Broncos complex.

Read Michael Silver's entire GQ story here.












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Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 21 16:41:45 2012, in response to Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 16:12:25 2012.

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Professional jealousy is best left inside the locker room, Brady. Fact is, you sucked every time you were given opportunities in Cleveland and Arizona.

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Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 16:59:35 2012, in response to Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 16:12:25 2012.

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Silver again? Same guy who wrote off Tebow after just two NFL starts. He doesn't have a bias. Nah.

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Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 17:06:58 2012, in response to Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 16:59:35 2012.

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Did Silver put words in Quinn's mouth?

Brady Quinn and others here told it like it is.
THEY know what goes on.

Others are probably not yet saying anything so as not be labeled as "difficult" and then becoming unpopular but are no doubt privately applauding Quinn for telling the truth.

What he says here was in fact very predictable.
Everyone knows the truth as to why the Broncos are starting The Fraud.

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Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure

Posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 21 17:09:07 2012, in response to Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 16:12:25 2012.

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Yeah, well the guy is middling as a football player. It's the G-d hype that put him as starter on the field, and the effort of the WHOLE TEAM creating the illusion of star-level competence. He's only out there "half" the time....what about the effort of the defensive team? Keeping the other team from scoring is equally, and sometimes more, important to winning the game. THIW. The guy's right....he *was* lucky. When push came to shove he fell apart.

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Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 17:10:05 2012, in response to Re: Teammate Slams Tebow: Says Management Gave into Extremists' Pressure, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 17:06:58 2012.

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Silver clearly has an agenda. He demonstrated that after Tebow's second game, and now he won't give up. I didn't even read the article. I just saw who wrote it and realized where he's coming from.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Charles G on Mon Mar 19 12:43:53 2012, in response to Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, "A Joke", posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 31 15:32:31 2011.

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Peyton Manning to the Broncos.

Denver supposedly to trade Tebow and "not concerned what they get for him".

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 19 17:15:39 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Charles G on Mon Mar 19 12:43:53 2012.

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Denver supposedly to trade Tebow and "not concerned what they get for him".

He could become a very productive QB in the Faroe Islands Football League.


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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 19 17:23:51 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 19 17:15:39 2012.

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All's well that ends well.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as "Over".

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 19 17:43:41 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Charles G on Mon Mar 19 12:43:53 2012.

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I told you so! Tebow may really have to change positions to have a future in the NFL...like move to running back or receiver.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as ''Ongoing''.

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 19 19:51:56 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as "Over"., posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 19 17:43:41 2012.

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Anyone tell you you're nuts? (Oh yeah; everyone did.)

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as ''Over''.

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Mar 19 19:55:47 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as ''Ongoing''., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 19 19:51:56 2012.

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Hey, Zolog, you could buy his contract for those old football cards you have stashed away. Tebow's TOAST!!! Fucking JACKASS

HahAhaHAHahAhaHAHahAhaHAHahAhaHA

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 19 22:49:20 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 19 17:23:51 2012.

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Let's see how Manning performs first. He was somewhat dishonest about the severity and number of his surgeries.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 23:18:49 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Charles G on Mon Mar 19 12:43:53 2012.

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This one was completely out of left field (forgive the mixed metaphor). I didn't think John Elway's ego would ever allow Payton Manning to play for Denver. Of course, he may not have liked sharing the spotlight with Tebow, either.

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Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 19 23:26:29 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 23:18:49 2012.

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Anyone think Tebow might end up starting for NE . . . ?

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Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Mon Mar 19 23:57:41 2012, in response to Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 19 23:26:29 2012.

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And have Tom Brady's wife curse him out for forcing Brady out of that job or into a reduced role? :)

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Mon Mar 19 23:59:01 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 23:18:49 2012.

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Would seem like a big gamble to give a guy removed for a whole season on injury over a guy that could use another season to improve. I don't think this is a wise move.

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Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 20 00:31:33 2012, in response to Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by grand concourse on Mon Mar 19 23:57:41 2012.

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What is she going to say, really . . . ? Besides, all the Pats fans hate her.

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Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 01:05:06 2012, in response to Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 20 00:31:33 2012.

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I dunno. She had a point. Some of those passes could've been caught in the SB. Those players are paid the big bucks to catch the ball, but they dropped it and it was that all or nothing hail mary throw that was thankfully blocked that sealed their loss. If anything she spoke what fans would say.

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Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 20 01:09:45 2012, in response to Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 01:05:06 2012.

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Won't stop them from seeing her as a jinx. Lots of them don't forgive Brady himself for two-timing Bridget Moynahan . . .

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 01:38:37 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by grand concourse on Mon Mar 19 23:59:01 2012.

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I'd have to agree with you but I'm not the one paid to make those decisions

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 02:47:26 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 01:38:37 2012.

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True. Then again it's the Broncos, so if they want to screw themselves on a gamble like that, no tears lost. Maybe Tebow going to Miami would be better for him?

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Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 02:48:43 2012, in response to Re: Anti-Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 20 01:09:45 2012.

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Jinx or not, these 2 SB matches have been very close (too close in this last one). I think the giants have more luck than the Pats being cursed.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 20 04:57:20 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by grand concourse on Mon Mar 19 23:59:01 2012.

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It isn't a bad move by the Broncos.

Tebow was largely ineffective during most of the game, and then highly effective against 2-minute-drill defenses by using a non-standard approach against those defenses.

The question became -- would Tebow learn to read NFL defenses so he could be more productive during the bulk of the game before teams adjusted their 2-minute defense to counter his approach? Denver seems to think he either won't or can't.

For Tebow, his next stop is probably as a backup QB playing occasionally in a Slash or Wildcat type mode. He could be an interesting fit for teams that have a "game manager" QB, where he could come in for individual plays or series during the bulk of the game, and then potentially run the 2-minute offense at the end of a close game. Miami's signing of David Garrard certainly makes this a possibility and Jacksonville's signing of Chad Henne make it very plausible that Tebow lands back in the State of Florida.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 20 06:41:08 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 20 04:57:20 2012.

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Tebow will enter the world of politics.

your pal,
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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 20 07:25:53 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 20 06:41:08 2012.

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Probably. He can sure rile the opposing forces...

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 14:35:08 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 20 04:57:20 2012.

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I don't deny having Peyton over Tebow as being bad. I'd take that in a heartbeat. However, Peyton is a year removed from the game and it's still to be seen if he is near 100%. If anything they should have Tebow be the backup if Peyton still isn't at 100% or needs some rest. Plus as a 'rookie', Tebow could use another season to improve.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 14:36:25 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 20 07:25:53 2012.

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heh, Tebow and Palin: the lefties' lightening rods.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 20 14:48:10 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 14:35:08 2012.

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If anything they should have Tebow be the backup if Peyton still isn't at 100% or needs some rest.

Peyton Manning in a wheelchair is 10x better than a healthy Tebow.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Mar 20 21:49:07 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 20 14:48:10 2012.

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lol, ouch.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 20 21:51:51 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 23:18:49 2012.

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It may also be that Tebow is not a very good passing quarterback.

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Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke''

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 22:15:14 2012, in response to Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing, ''A Joke'', posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 20 21:51:51 2012.

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Which, like it or not, had nothing to do with my point.

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