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Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 11:40:51 2012

here we go again

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012, in response to Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 11:40:51 2012.

I have a headache so I'll break down how this thread will proceed: Luch will call blacks lazy thugs. I'll tell him to shut the f up and point out that I have cousins who are doctors and lawyers, as well as a brother who is an engineer. Train Dude will then come to his defense and talk trash he can't back up....

I'm sick of these racial threads.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Feb 21 12:15:53 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012.

Train Dude will then come to his defense and talk trash he can't back up....

You mean the same Way you Cant?

POT KETTLE BLACK

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 21 13:21:14 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012.

The stop being a racist in them.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 21 13:21:24 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012.

Then stop being a racist in them.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 13:36:27 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 21 13:21:14 2012.

YOU FIRST....then LUCHIE....then OLGIA and then TRAIN DUDE...all in that order...get it now?

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 13:36:54 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 21 13:21:24 2012.

YOU FIRST....then LUCHIE....then OLGIA and then TRAIN DUDE...all in that order...get it now?



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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 13:45:11 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012.

What part of AVERAGE do you not understand? You should realize by now that you and most likely your family are above average.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by JayMan on Tue Feb 21 13:47:47 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012.

Get used to them...

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by JayMan on Tue Feb 21 13:54:05 2012, in response to Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 11:40:51 2012.

Interestingly, because SAT and other achievement tests tend to overpredict NAM performance (belying any claim that the tests are culturally biased against NAMs; this implies that such tests are biased against Whites, if anything), the correct way to find the best achieving students would actualy be to apply a reverse-affirmative action of sorts, one that required a higher score by NAM applicants...

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 21 13:54:16 2012, in response to Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 11:40:51 2012.

It's bad decision time! Again! (seems Texas was doing fine as they were..close enough to reflecting the diverse population in their university student bodies)

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 21 14:04:22 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by JayMan on Tue Feb 21 13:54:05 2012.

SAT tests are excellent predictors of one's ability to do well on standardized tests. They reward hard work and kids whose parents have the time and energy to introduce their kids to intellectual concepts. They penalize laziness*, lack of interest in intellectual pursuits*, and kids whose parents are working two jobs and have no spare time.

Most corporate and political leaders (if we can use those as measures of "success") did not do really well on their SAT tests.


* Traits which many kids grow out of as they get older.


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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:06:21 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 13:36:27 2012.

Iris gutmaker raised a real douchebag when she spewed you out.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:08:23 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 13:45:11 2012.

Maybe he's got white relatives? :)

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:14:40 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 21 13:54:16 2012.

Why should the ethnic composition of the general population be reflected in college populations?

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:15:31 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 21 13:54:16 2012.

And BMW will put out of South Carolina because the workforce there is untrainable? Time to stop talking about things you have no knowledge about!

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:18:32 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:14:40 2012.

Why should a police force's ethnic composition reflect that of the community?
Why should a fire department's ethnic composition reflect that of the community?

These are the belief systems that mirror true liberalism. Not the best qualified but mediocrity for the sake of diversity.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:20:40 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:18:32 2012.

In the case of the former, it prevents the populace from seeing the police as an occupying force as opposed to a group that helps them. I think though that the real reason they hate the police is because they like crime. So to answer that question: it shouldn't reflect the population.

Firefighters there's no reason I can think of.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:22:33 2012, in response to Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 11:40:51 2012.

I like that "Top 10" program. It achieves racial balance without necessarily assigning racial preferences. California needs something like that for blacks and Hispanics to get accepted into the UC schools. UCLA has twenty-something thousand or more undergrads and their freshmen classes are only getting a couple hundred non-athletic scholarship black students. I've heard that some classes have had less than 100.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:26:00 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 21 14:04:22 2012.

SAT's are only one part of the puzzle. Grades are a bigger part aren't they? Although some colleges will admit you based solely on SAT depending on your score. So it can work for you but not as much against as long as your grades are good.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 14:26:24 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 21 13:21:24 2012.

I'm fucking sick of this. I joined Subchat to interact with other railfans, not to be constantly belittled. You people bitch about Weinberg yet you act like a bunch of bigoted trolls. You can all kiss my ass.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 14:28:42 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:06:21 2012.

So...is that what they told your mom at the animal hospital? eh? I bet!

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:29:53 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:20:40 2012.

It also has an effect on the police not just the populace. I think that ideally you'd like to have police that live in that community. What they look like us secondary. Although if you have a diverse community a diverse force can help. Especially with multi-lingual communities.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:30:05 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:20:40 2012.

Amen

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:31:46 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 14:26:24 2012.

What is your problem, Sparky? Seems to me that you are the only real racist on the block.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 21 14:37:14 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:20:40 2012.

I think though that the real reason they hate the police is because they like crime.

Who is the "they" that you are referring to?





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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:38:03 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:29:53 2012.

Back in July, some punks mistakenly tried to break into my house while I was home. I cannot tell you the race of nor do I care about the race of the 10 officers and detectives who responded that night. I didn't care about diversity.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 14:38:52 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 14:26:24 2012.

That's what the main board is for.

People who may all like transit will have a variety of different opinions on a variety of other topics.

That's what OTChat is for.

If you can't handle it, stick to buses or go to the "Thread for Pathman" here on OTChat and enjoy the puppy and kitty.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:39:01 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 21 14:37:14 2012.

I don't know. This is just a guess but he's probably referring to the criminals.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:39:36 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 14:38:52 2012.

Agreed!

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 14:43:47 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:22:33 2012.

California needs something like that for blacks and Hispanics to get accepted into the UC schools

Hispanics are basically a minority in name only in California. They must represent a huge percentage of university age population by now. So why admit them based on their minority status?

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 14:46:10 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 21 12:09:21 2012.

I have never called blacks "lazy thugs".

You're on an ignant post roll.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 14:59:44 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:14:40 2012.

Why shouldn't the top performing students of every TX high school be the reflection of its state university student body?

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 15:03:42 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:31:46 2012.

" Seems to me that you are the only real racist on the block. "

Actually...you, Ologia, ChrisR16, and Luchie walk hand in hand to those KKK rallies....



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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 15:05:24 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 14:38:03 2012.

" I didn't care about diversity."


I know....we all KNOW...it is your MO for LIFE.....we know about your hooded robe too!



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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Feb 21 15:06:33 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:22:33 2012.

The issue here is that someone claims that she was denied a seat and that candidates who qualified under Top 10, but who had lower grades, were admitted instead.

Unclear is if there are other grounds in play.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:17:08 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 21 14:37:14 2012.

"Stop snitching" types.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:19:58 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 14:29:53 2012.

The problem is that in a small municipality, the populace may be mostly or entirely unqualified to be police officers anywhere else. Should this community accept having a mediocre police force? Meanwhile, in a metropolitan city, or metropolitan police forces, should police officers live in the precincts that they work or should they live anywhere in the city? What about state police forces?

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 15:22:49 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 14:43:47 2012.

I didn't say to admit on their minority status. I said that we could use the top 10% method. Hispanics are probably half the school kids but way underrepresented at the top state schools (UC schools as opposed to state schools). Probably 50% of students, 30% of graduates and 10% of UC students. Maybe less.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 15:23:58 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 14:46:10 2012.

You've called them "savages"..refering to the minorities that go to the school on Metropolitan Ave. in Forest Hills, NY. Those were YOUR WORDS and no one elses on Subchat!

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:27:51 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 14:59:44 2012.

Because some high schools may be so profoundly mediocre that the top 10% may consist of some poor students.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 21 15:28:46 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 14:14:40 2012.

Because it's not a good thing for everyone there to be white.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 15:28:53 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 15:22:49 2012.

One reason why Hispanics would make up a smaller percentage of top schools is that they have a high drop out rate in California. Especially among Hispanic males. Competing against Asians for spots can't help either.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 21 15:29:21 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:17:08 2012.

OK.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:32:10 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 15:23:58 2012.

He is probably correct. Not because of the color of their skin but due to the content of their character.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:33:39 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 21 15:28:46 2012.

Having a percentage of minorities does not imply that such percentage is the same as in the general population.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 15:35:09 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 21 15:28:46 2012.

It's not a bad thing.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 21 15:36:45 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:33:39 2012.

I agree.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 21 15:36:57 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 15:35:09 2012.

Yes it is.

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Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court

Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 15:37:25 2012, in response to Re: Affirmative Action Case Back To Supreme Court, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 15:27:51 2012.

True. I remember what was supposed to be a feel bad story about an illegal immigrant that was valedictorian of some east la high school that wouldn't be allowed to go to college because of her status. The part that stood out for me was that she had a really mediocre SAT score. Not even top 25%.

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