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Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 19:42:51 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 19:20:14 2012. If it weren't a sports headline I might agree that its unintentional but sports headlines almost always have two meanings and are a play on words. They are rarely that straightforward especially given the relatively obscure phrase. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 19:48:56 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 19:42:51 2012. Which is probably why it went through ... if it was intentional though, definitely a reason to shitcan the editor and the writer for it. I can only assume here, and base my judgement on what is proper editorial practice for a news organization. I don't do ESPN, so I'm not aware of their standard modus operendi there. Then again, ESPN is Disney and so they should have been extra fearful of the rodent no matter what. :)In computer security (which is what I do now) the term "chink in the armor" is often used to describe bad security policy and there's lots of Asians in this industry. I haven't noticed anyone getting miffed when I use the phrase in its proper context. But then again, I don't work for the mouse either. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 20:35:08 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 19:48:56 2012. Yeah, it's not an offensive expression in and of itself. It would only be offensive if it were intentionally used to describe someone that is Chinese as a play on words. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 20:42:03 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 20:35:08 2012. This episode though is causing me to reconsider the use of that term even where appropriate. As to the ESPN episode, I saw the sportscaster bit and paid close attention to his timing. I'd vote him not guilty. As to the rest, looks like it could have been intentional but I have no way to judge it without knowing their normal attitude. But still ... it's annoying that you used to be able to tell the players without a score card. :)Even stranger is that there doesn't seem to be a whole outpouring of butthurt among many Asians over it all. Makes me confoosed it does. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 21:00:46 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 20:42:03 2012. Some Asian group complained, but in general Asians aren't quite as sensitive or at least as vocal as other minorities. Perhaps because they tend to be more successful than other minorities. Certainly they endure more than their fair share of stereotypes. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 21:07:22 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 21:00:46 2012. Yep ... I dunno ... lots of folks take too much shit WAY too seriously. Racism is a bad thing, but oversensitivity has its repercussions as well if it wasn't actually there. That's what kinda has my head spinning over this one ... I'm still not certain of the intent. Used to be that it was quite blatant and obvious, this time still not so sure. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 19 21:22:45 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 20:42:03 2012. The High School mascot of Pekin, IL was the Pekin Chinks. They changed it in 1980.http://www.ccamuseum.org/index.php/en/research/research-1900-1949/128-1981-the-pekin-chinks-high-school-team-becomes-the-pekin-dragons |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:24:17 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 21:00:46 2012. You are correct. Asians are more successful and don't have the same grievances against America that other groups have. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 21:29:22 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 19 21:22:45 2012. Now there's a team that sounds right up ESPN's alley ... but the "armor" connotation is at least questionable ...After this though, Premium saltine crackers will need to be retitled to Premium Saltine unleavened-bread-like-thingies next to satisfy red state outrage ... :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 21:51:18 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:24:17 2012. Asians are more successfulDefine "successful". and don't have the same grievances against America that other groups have No, not the same. Different grievances. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Feb 19 21:55:20 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 19 18:48:54 2012. Well, when someone caves to pressure from a special interest group who exists solely to create controversy... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:56:41 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 21:51:18 2012. Define "successful".Just being the opposite of other minority communities. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 22:12:25 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:56:41 2012. Ouch! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 19 22:12:52 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 21:07:22 2012. The problem is when people make a big deal out of "racism" when there is none, it waters down all the times there really is. It's like the girl who cried wolf after a while. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 19 22:13:47 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 19 21:51:18 2012. Well he's right in the fact that Asians don't try and permeate the permanent victim status. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 22:17:14 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 19 22:12:52 2012. And like "antisemite" here ... yep. The reason why I'm watching this one though is that I've often used "chinks in the armor" with respect to dinged metal in network firewalls and other potential security boners and never occurred to me that it could ever be taken to mean Asians. Since I've used that phrase often in my presentations, this has me curious as to what the ESPN folks were on about. Personally I find the "Lin-this" and "Lin-that" pretty annoying too. :) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 19 23:27:27 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 22:17:14 2012. "lin-sensitive"! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 23:29:58 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 19 23:27:27 2012. I just endured the local sports on 13 here a few minutes ago. They're still stuck on "tastic" ... ARRRRrrrrrgh. :)Creativity ... where art thy sting? Heh. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 19 23:35:08 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 19 23:29:58 2012. Hah! You are right-- they have not an original thought in their bodies. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 00:01:25 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 22:12:25 2012. Areas like education, crime, out of wedlock birthrate, are what I have in mind. That's what separates Asians from blacks and Latinos. |
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Posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 00:02:13 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:56:41 2012. Of fucking course... |
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Posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 00:02:59 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 00:01:25 2012. I wish an 18 wheeler ran you over. |
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Re: Racist ESPN headline (whoops!) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 20 00:07:18 2012, in response to Racist ESPN headline (whoops!), posted by Easy on Sat Feb 18 11:42:19 2012. This is just a high tech Lin-chink! :Pyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 20 00:08:54 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 19 22:13:47 2012. Asians don't try and permeate the permanent victim statusHBD explains it all. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 20 03:53:52 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 00:02:59 2012. I wish you were right once in a while. |
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Re: Racist ESPN headline (whoops!) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 04:48:46 2012, in response to Re: Racist ESPN headline (whoops!), posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 20 00:07:18 2012. HAHA!! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 20 05:13:40 2012, in response to Re: Racist ESPN headline (whoops!), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 18 12:05:55 2012. its "only intentional when blacks are offended"..interesting.. does that have anything to do with the relationship you have with others..your father perhaps..or your mother..? join a book club..read moby dick..or pick up something from Disney..it might help you work through you anger issues..or what offends your tender sensibilities.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 20 05:24:08 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:56:41 2012. hmm..is that right?been self employed? do YOU own your own company..incorporate anything lately? upstanding community rep?..activist? continued to work because you like it,not because you have to,AFTER RETIREMENT? Just What is it you do,exactly, for a living? hang out on the public dole[you DO seem to know A LOT about it,you know]...been let go from a cushy job in the last few years? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 20 05:28:15 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 19 21:24:17 2012. you are full of shit..they have the very SAME concerns that others have.but then again,you dont know much on a personal level..your chock full of random bullshit speculation..often awesomely wrong..but too bitchedass to know the difference. Not to worry..Im here to CONSTANTLY REMIND YOU. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 12:20:31 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by Easy on Sun Feb 19 19:03:48 2012. The mistake was making fun of Lin's ethnicity. They should have targeted his Christianity and everything would be ok for the two ESPN employees. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 21 09:54:21 2012, in response to Re: ESPN Fires Editor, Suspends Anchor (Was: Racist ESPN headline), posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 19 23:35:08 2012. Knicks are at the Miami Heat on Thursday, I'm bracing myself for the "lin-jectives" to come from the local media down here :) |
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