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Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:20:45 2012, in response to Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 11:06:26 2012. I hope, and pray, that Gingrich gets nominated, so Obama can be re-elected. How quickly we forget what a character Newt is. He shut down the federal government because he had to use the rear boarding ramp of Air Force One instead of the front stairs.Of course, the Hypocrite Wing of the GOP loves ol' Newt, despite the fact that he left Washington a hated man on both sides of the aisle... |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 11:25:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:20:45 2012. We'll see. Obama had the "advantage" of having almost no history, although the history he had the press said "no problem." |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:30:05 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 11:25:34 2012. Again, just imagine the JayZee types if a Wright type minister would have been connected to a Republican instead of Obama. Obama got a free pass on him. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:33:12 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:30:05 2012. The GOP has Pat Buchanan. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:37:19 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:33:12 2012. He's not currently running for president though, and he would have gotten the "treatment" that any candidate gets....except for Obama of course. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:40:12 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:37:19 2012. Obama, as I previously mentioned in another thread, has undergone more scrutiny, for his entire Presidency, than any other President in my living memory, except for Nixon. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:47:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:40:12 2012. Please. Bush has him beat. Obama has gotten the biggest free pass in recent history. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012, in response to Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 11:06:26 2012. Clinton never ran for office after his philandering came out.If someone is willing to deceive his wife, do you trust him not to deceive the voters? It's not the only criterion to use, but it is one. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:34:04 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012. Far worse than Gingrich's philandering is his moralizing to the nation while philandering. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Jan 22 12:42:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012. Are you guys really that naive? Any leader worth his salt is a good liar. He has to be...the president lies to foreign leaders all the time--and let's not forget Obama's incredible poker face the night of the Congressional Correspondants' Dinner where he made fun of Trump coolly after having ordered the hit on Osama bin Laden... |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 12:47:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:33:12 2012. MSNBC has Pat Buchanan. The closest thing to a Quasi-Nazi in TV today. Interesting that that leftist network use him as their House Conservative. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 12:48:34 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012. Clinton never ran for office after his philandering came out.Huh???? The stuff about him and Genifer Flowers and Paula Whats-her-face came out when he ran the first time. His philandering was well known. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 22 12:51:01 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 12:47:38 2012. That is a useful stereotype. Scratch most Republicans and you find NAZISM. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 12:56:05 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012. If someone is willing to deceive his wife, do you trust him not to deceive the voters?1) I don't trust ANY politician to not deceive the voters; and 2) politically, very few people REALLY care, except as a talking point against their enemies. Any awful lot of Presidents have cheated on their wives, and in office. A lot of them are well-regarded: FDR (notwithstanding he was in a wheelchair), Eisenhower, JFK, Clinton. And those are only the modern ones we know for sure. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 12:56:44 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 22 12:51:01 2012. In your book, all of them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 12:59:13 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012. Wasn't the Paula Jones thing BEFORE he was elected? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 22 13:02:44 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 12:56:44 2012. Some GOPers are Jews who think Israel gets a "better deal" from the GOP. They're WRONG. The GOP is part of BIG OIL. The GOP HATES Israel. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 13:08:16 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 12:59:13 2012. No, I was wrong, but Gennifer Flowers was. And rumors of many others. Clinton was a known philanderer before being elected. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 13:54:00 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 13:08:16 2012. Nobody cared. We needed someone who could fix the mess left by Reagan/Bush. Turns out he did it, and left with a balanced budget, a thriving economy and relative peace. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:00:47 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 13:54:00 2012. a thriving economy and relative peace.The stock market was already plummeting and while he was happily bombing aspirin factories in the Sudan and our former allies in Yugoslavia, the 9/11 conspirators were in the U.S. (for years) planning the Islamist future. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:01:31 2012, in response to Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 11:06:26 2012. "Maybe ex-President Clinton and future-President Gingrich can have a beer together and talk about chicks. "They already did -- Source: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/newt-gingrich-affair-with-staffer-6165256 In the course of a long interview last fall, [Armey] told me that President Bill Clinton "found out about the Gingrich affair and called Newt over to the White House for a private meeting between the two of them." Armey argued that Clinton pressured Gingrich to go easy on that year's impeachment drive "or I'll start telling your story." He claimed the two leaders "had many meetings that we didn't know about where they'd drink wine and smoke cigars and talk about their girlfriends." |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:02:22 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:00:47 2012. the Islamist futureWhich never did come to pass here. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:02:35 2012, in response to Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 11:06:26 2012. It's not that Gingrich is a horndog - it's that he's a loose cannon. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:14:35 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:02:22 2012. So the WTC is still standing? |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:17:08 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:01:31 2012. Sounds like Gingrich should make Big Bill his Chief of Staff. I genuinely think they like each other. Otherwise he might only have a former Secretary of State to look at. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:20:16 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:17:08 2012. Speaking of former Secretaries of State, I'm convinced Bush had an affair with Condoleeza. They spent many weekends alone at Camp David. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 14:20:28 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:00:47 2012. The "dotcom crash" was a blip compared to the rest of the economy. most of the companies that vanished then do so deservedly, and the rest of the economy,had it been left stable, would have created jobs to fill in a small gap. The only losers were the investors there. That's called RISK. If one is to be so foolish as to not research a company prior to investing (such as a retailer with no inventory, warehouse and delivery logisitics [pets.com]) they deserve to lose their money.Turns out Binladen owned that factory after all. Losing it delivered a blow to his finances. Not to mention that fact that we aren't an Islamist state, but without vigilance we'll become a BAC version of the same. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:29:41 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:20:16 2012. Do you have any other reason to think they had an affair other than the physical setup? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 14:35:02 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:20:16 2012. She's not gay? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:38:17 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:14:35 2012. No, but that atrocity did not usher in an "Islamist future" in the United states, did it? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 22 14:45:08 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 22 12:31:20 2012. That alone wouldn't be a problem to me. But Gingrich has bigger problems than that. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 22 14:45:47 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 13:08:16 2012. But except for Monica Lewinsky---it was mostly say-so; the payment for Paula Jones was to make her go away. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 22 14:46:48 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:30:05 2012. I would say: So what? If the policy was actually practiced outside of church by that person, then it matters. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:57:24 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:29:41 2012. She had a public crush on him. She once inadvertently blurted out, referring to him, as "my husband." |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 15:02:01 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 14:57:24 2012. That is weird considering that she's never even been married, but far from proff of an affair. Or even indication of an affair. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 15:04:57 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:17:08 2012. He won't need a Chief of Staff as he isn't going to be elected. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 15:12:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 15:04:57 2012. Besides, he's already the chief of his own "staff." |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 15:20:40 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:33:12 2012. And Tony Perkins, James Dobson, and, Donald Wildmon. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 15:23:07 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:47:34 2012. Oh will you listen to yourself! Go try to tell that to 4000 American families who lost a loved one in a pointless Iraq invasion. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 15:23:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 12:47:38 2012. Buchanan was fired by MSNBC a while ago. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 15:24:46 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 11:47:34 2012. Please. Bush has him beat. Obama has gotten the biggest free pass in recent history.FALSE!!! |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 15:27:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 11:40:12 2012. lol. No. Less scrutiny from the media. Even Republicans don't scrutinize him. They just have a Pavlovian response to say that everything that he does is wrong even when he cuts taxes. Bush was the most scrutinized, but that was deserved. He was terrible. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 15:31:18 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 15:27:38 2012. WRONG. Obama has been under the microscope throughout his term. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 15:35:41 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 15:31:18 2012. I'm not going to yell back and forth, but I disagree. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 22 15:51:12 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 15:12:18 2012. Yes, apparently Noot is. It takes a heartless person to walk away from an ailing spouse,not just once but twice. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 22 16:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:38:17 2012. If anything it set back any real chance at islam gaining a foothold in the US... they're all a bunch of terrorists after all.. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 16:41:07 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 22 13:08:16 2012. I must have missed the part where Clinton was denouncing sombody else's fornication while he was banging Gennifer Flowrs. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 16:43:55 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 22 14:00:47 2012. The Clinton Administration nailed the Millennium Plot evildoers.Then the Bush happened and 3000 people died while the idiots were still talking about missile defense. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 16:47:33 2012, in response to Re: Romney's Problem, and Obama's, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 22 14:02:22 2012. Oh yes? Can we meet at Windows on the World for a drink later? |
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