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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 11:13:25 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 10:51:02 2011. 1946 is an entire year! If I wanted to describe the specific actual end of the war, I would have given the exact date! I believe that AlM said 1946 instead of 1945 do to some stuff that happened right after the end of the war! And he's already explained that!Once again you try to find me to be in the wrong when I am not. I never made any claim that the war ended in 1946. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 16 11:18:47 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 10:51:02 2011. Why do you even bother? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:28:23 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 09:13:24 2011. The whole thread is about "Tebow" being some sort of "threat". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:29:35 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 10:09:24 2011. That's still the Wartime.And this isn't even about the Jews other than it being a Rabbi. He said burning mosques not synagogues. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:30:21 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 10:20:20 2011. Who said that was the day of the end of the war? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:30:34 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 10:51:02 2011. Four months. LOL. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:31:16 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 11:13:25 2011. And of course, a "war can be shut off" like you turn off a light switch. Four months. LMAO! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:32:14 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 09:10:34 2011. Yeah, of course, Hitler would "never" be implied when you are talking about atrocities against Jews in the 1940's..... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:33:39 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 09:22:29 2011. That crap was because of atrocious ethnic cleansing, not "in the name of Christianity". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:34:28 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 09:11:27 2011. At least you admit it. The whole statement was made to make Tebow sound even crazier and worse than he is and for shock value. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 11:37:41 2011, in response to Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 07:40:59 2011. Don't get like the lefties, now. |
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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'' |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:38:09 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 16 10:00:00 2011. Most Christians have nothing to do with the crackpot version practiced by Timmy Teabag.That may be true, but WHO CARES what he does? Most "Christians" don't give him a second thought either. It's the hard left that he drives absolutely crazy. And to compare Tebow to Osama is utterly ridiculous and reprehensible. Osama is responsible for the killing of millions of people and the terror of millions more. Tebow said he doesn't like abortion and prays after a football game. Yeah, real similar. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:39:04 2011, in response to Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 11:37:41 2011. ? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:40:26 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 10:35:01 2011. The problem with people like this is that they all say outrageous things like this, and then when called on it they simply say "I didn't mean that" or "I'm sorry", but the statement was already said. It's too late, now every blog and people all over the place are already saying that Tebow will cause a mini-Holocaust and have fires in mosques. The damage of such statement is already done. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:41:12 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:40:26 2011. ...and all because he prays before and after a football game. It's so absurd. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:41:46 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:32:14 2011. I know you have it in for AlM but fuck dude, you're looking like you can't read here.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:44:41 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:41:46 2011. Not quite. When AlM started by saying "Excessive Christian displays" it was clear that AlM had it in for someone. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 11:45:03 2011, in response to Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:39:04 2011. Hammerman is a liberal rabbi. Why didn't you point that out? |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:46:06 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 09:12:20 2011. Dude...you need to learn how to read for comprehension.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:48:47 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:46:06 2011. LOL. AlM's first post talks about "Excessive Christian displays". Kneeling is hardly excessive but that's AlM's view of the world. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:53:24 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:48:47 2011. Talk to the Rabbi. Al was simply relating the Rabbi's position. I can't fucking believe how you guys have ratfucked what he said. My neighbor's kid could figure it out better than you guys. LOLyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 11:55:44 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:31:16 2011. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:58:52 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:53:24 2011. LOL @ "ratfucked". AlM said "Excessive displays of Christianity" to start his input in the thread. No such displays have taken place.AlM clearly thinks the Rabbi was not totally wrong. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 12:00:15 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:58:52 2011. He said he disagreed with the Rabbi, so no, false on that one too.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:05:10 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 12:00:15 2011. He said the fear of "Excessive displays" was "justified". That was AlM's response. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:07:22 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:28:23 2011. No, column clearly discusses how the threat would be the "emboldened faithful". Tebow is not the threat. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:07:56 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:30:21 2011. +1No response from JayZeeBMT. Typical. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:14:50 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:40:26 2011. I don't think that's the case at all. We only heard about it after the apologies were made. So what makes you think that most other people don't know about the apologies and thus still think that the column expressed legitimate rational ideas? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:15:57 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:53:24 2011. +1 |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Dec 16 12:15:58 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 08:05:03 2011. It got a bunch of laughs from the room, but really, when you think about it it's not all that funny that people are even making little kids make fun of Tebow.No it isn't funny, but people would make fun of him just the same if he pulled out a prayer rug or put on tefillin after every touchdown. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:16:39 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:05:10 2011. Wrong. AlM was speaking in general. AlM did not state that Tebow himself exhibited those excessive displays that could cause concern. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:18:13 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Dec 16 12:15:58 2011. but people would make fun of him just the same if he pulled out a prayer rug or put on tefillin after every touchdown.Wrong. And that's the point. The Lions never would have made fun of him, which is what started this entire issue. If he was anything but a Christian, the commentary would be about "tolerance" and "diversity". |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 12:21:00 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 09:11:27 2011. You have a double standard regarding Muslims and Christians. You respond negatively to people that object to what they perceive as excessive displays of Islam (as you should) yet excuse those that object to Christian displays.I think that the root cause may be racism. Whites expect other whites to be as enlightened as they feel that they are but hold non-whites to a different standard. I see that all the time here. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:26:46 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 12:21:00 2011. You have a double standard regarding Muslims and Christians. You respond negatively to people that object to what they perceive as excessive displays of Islam (as you should) yet excuse those that object to Christian displays. How so? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 12:35:50 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 16 09:22:19 2011. That's not enough times. Might be too small of typeface, too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 12:37:08 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 16 09:18:56 2011. I'm wondering what the difference between Hammerman and Soros is. Just the bank account? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:38:38 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 12:21:00 2011. That's liberalism. Double-standards.They feel that some groups deserve extra-protection while others should be open to mockery. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:38:38 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 12:21:00 2011. That's liberalism. Double-standards.They feel that some groups deserve extra-protection while others should be open to mockery. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 13:07:14 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:33:39 2011. ???Catholic Poles killed Polish Jews because they weren't Christians. If they'd killed them because they weren't Polish, that would have been different. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 13:10:52 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 13:07:14 2011. Did NAZIS kill Polish Christians? There was a lot of killing going on during that time period, and religion was not the main reason.When did Polish Catholics kill Polish Jews for not being Christian? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:15:51 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 07:46:02 2011. Even in Riverhead, cultural liberals dominate the education system. They won't admit they were suspended because Tebowing is associated with Christianity, but you can bet that was the initial reason.The kicker is that there's nothing illegal about it, even if they WERE praying. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:21:02 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 07:54:36 2011. If they are worried about pogroms, they should be critical of Islam. Not Christianity. In fact, I cannot think of a single event in American history where Jews were targeted by Christians in any violent way. About as bad as antisemitism got here was restricting access to country clubs.This particular rabbi has a record of anti-Christian bias and hardcore leftist beliefs. Reading the article he wrote, you get the whole gambit, from the usual lefty talking points about income inequality to global warming alarmism. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:23:06 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 08:16:04 2011. Jews are being killed in the name of Islam RIGHT NOW. There's no significant Christian based violence aimed at Jews anywhere in the world, and I can't think of any since the end of the Israeli occupation of Beirut over 20 years ago.Islam is the bigger threat. Not fucking Tim Tebow! |
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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'' |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 13:23:52 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:15:51 2011. It's sad. All Tebow did was kneel after beating Miami. That's it. And now it has turned into an obsession. "Tebowing" was started by the Lions as a way of mocking Tebow, but after a string of wins, the tables have turned and it's now like the wave or Tomahawk chop. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 13:25:29 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 13:23:52 2011. After having the worst record in the NFL last season and turning things around, the last thing the Lions ought to do is mock Tebow; maybe they should emulate him a bit. |
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Re: LI Students Suspended For ''Tebowing'' (Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'' |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 13:27:58 2011, in response to Re: LI Students Suspended For ''Tebowing" (Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 16 13:25:29 2011. Well, the Lions played against Tebow and the Broncos in Tebow's second game as starter, and destroyed him. In the process, they mocked his kneeling, which he did once after winning in Miami. If Tebow was a religious minority being mocked, look out. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 16 13:31:47 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:15:51 2011. "They won't admit they were suspended because Tebowing is associated with Christianity, but you can bet that was the initial reason.The kicker is that there's nothing illegal about it, even if they WERE praying." LOL....what are you smoking today? your twisted mind is really running out the window today...as usual. No PUBLIC school in America should be promoting any form of worship. That's the law.....you know Chris......separation of Church and State....outside in the street....these student could pray or whatever all they want. It is not a liberal or conservative issue here...it is what the LAW says. |
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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'' |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 16 13:33:30 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 07:46:02 2011. "Honestly, I don't see NY as America, even though I am anxious to move back."Why not move to GUAM? they's love you there! |
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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'' |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 15:25:46 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:38:09 2011. Osama is responsible for the killing of millions of peopleWTF? |
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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'' |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 16:43:29 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 15:25:46 2011. He's thinking of Saddam, for whom it's true if you put the entire Iran-Iraq war at his feet. |
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