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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:20:09 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:17:39 2011.

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Kindly explain your own obsession with Fred G, JayZeeBMT, Amanda, Spider-Pig, trainsarefun, WMATA, Selkirk?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:20:58 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:17:39 2011.

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Yes, that is correct.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:25:57 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:16:03 2011.

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What about the GOP's public pledge to use their control of Congress to upset and sabotage every initiative Obama makes, for the express purpose of defeating him in the next election?

Obama said he'd get tough on terrorism. He did, killing OBL AND his top deputy.

Obama said he'd do something about high unemployment. He has introduced a jobs plan that the GOP keeps filibustering and derailing. Where is the GOP's own jobs plan?

Obama said he'd send the US Navy out to fight African-coast pirates who were attacking US shipping. He is the first President since John Tyler to actually do it.

Obama said he'd end the Iraq war in his first term, which he DID.

Obama said he'd reform healthcare, which he did--albeit a plan that was watered down by the GOP, amidst insane conservative rhetoric that there would be 'death panels' and all kinds of horrible consequences. A federal appeals court ruled--a few days ago that Obama's healthcare law was, in fact, constitutional. Of course, now the GOP will go to the (conservative) Supreme Court.





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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:27:12 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:13:04 2011.

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I didn't call you an "organ grinder's monkey", I said you'd be jumping up and down like one.

It would be racist for a white man to make the comparison. THIW and you know it.

When was Obama ever "accused" of getting BJ's from "white crack head males"? I'd like to see a MSM link to that story.

MSM would never do that to Obama.


Where are you getting these ideas that a hypothetical Obama accuser would be "beaten and raped" by "Obama supporters"? Painting "Obama supporters" as crazed, violent savages is exactly the kind of inflammatory, psychotic rhetoric you claim liberals use.

There are indeed many crazed violent savages within the Obama base. Same "violent savages" who wanted to kill the Kobe accuser, and riot if OJ was convicted. I'd say the 95% of those who commit violent street crimes, the kind of post about, come from an Obama supporting household.


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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:29:03 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:25:57 2011.

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Overall he's done a great job while enduring an onslaught of stupid people.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:29:26 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:20:09 2011.

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Those are some of my stalkers. SUBWAYSURF too.

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Re: Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:29:33 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 9 03:58:27 2011.

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You know you really are one dumb mother-fucker. Thank god for internet balls or you'd have none.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:30:03 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:17:54 2011.

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I said he is being portrayed as a man who didn't think his earlier behavior would come back to haunt him. read. Breathe. The portrayal of Cain includes the idea, not necessarily the fact, that he engaged in earlier behavior that might ine day haunt him.

IMO, though, the evidence against Cain is piling up, particularly the FACT that there have neen multiple settlements to multiple women. Why settle if the accusation is, in fact, untrue? The women could all have, instead, been sued for slander by Cain and the NRA.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:30:17 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:29:26 2011.

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Oh, you're the victim now.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:30:28 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 9 04:01:59 2011.

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So says the ignorant mother-fucker that said this


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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:31:52 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:30:03 2011.

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Those could be nuisance settlements, to be fair. It's sometimes cheaper to pay somebody off than to go through the legal effort of fighting them.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:32:14 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:30:03 2011.

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Who gives a fuck? What's your deal? Do you think Cain could confuse the minority voters next November, causing Obama to lose? What do you care if Cain ran his hand up some white woman's leg?

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:32:41 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:27:12 2011.

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Where is your link verifying your claim that Obama was "accused" of getting BJ's from "crack head white males"? I think you just made that one up.

LOL @ "95% of those committing violent street crimes coming from an Obama-supporting household"...

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:34:03 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:32:14 2011.

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Goes to fitness for the office, something YOU have repeatedly questioned Obama over.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:35:49 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:34:03 2011.

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I said that Cain is not qualified for POTUS. He has no experience. But POTUS is now an affirmative action position, so I expect more unqualified people to get the job in future elections.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:39:04 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 07:31:39 2011.

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Sharon Bialek?? (Pronounced Buy-A-Lick)-

I never doubted that Herman Cain had charges of sexual harassment made against him. He admitted that there were settlements made. I never disputed that either. My only issue was that i didn't believe the story by Sharon Buy-A-Lick. As for the rest, those charges were never "PROVEN". The women took the money and ran. If they accepted the settlement then, what are they bitching about now?

As far as Herman Cain goes, I said from the startt hat he was not qualified to be president any more that the current ass hole is. If you wanna burn yourself out trying to prove that a serial killer also parks illegally, be my guest.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Nov 9 08:39:08 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 07:31:39 2011.

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You mean like how you are acting like an ass, ignoring everyone telling you that you are completely wrong about the slot machines? When will you admit that I was correct when I first called you out on this issue?

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:40:31 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:32:41 2011.

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LOL @ "95% of those committing violent street crimes coming from an Obama-supporting household"...

At least. Maybe 99%.


Where is your link verifying your claim that Obama was "accused" of getting BJ's from "crack head white males"? I think you just made that one up.

I told you that the mainstream liberal media would never cover it. It was mostly an internet and local news story, you animal savage beast.

JayZee is obsessed with Cain because he may confuse minorities next November



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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:43:11 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:25:57 2011.

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You really don't have a clue, do you. 22 jibs bills are being blocked by the Democratic senate. The plan is to have o'dummer run against an "obstructionist congress" rather than have this idiot run on his (lol) record.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:43:51 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:25:57 2011.

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You really don't have a clue, do you. 22 jobs bills are being blocked by the Democratic senate. The plan is to have o'dummer run against an "obstructionist congress" rather than have this idiot run on his (lol) record.

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Re: Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:44:44 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 9 04:01:59 2011.

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Prove your claim you dumb mother-fucker or shut the fuck up for ever.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 9 08:46:23 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 07:31:39 2011.

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Has she detailed what type of harassment she faced? So far she's not saying anything different than Cain other than that.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:46:48 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:39:04 2011.

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You got that pronunciation from Rush Limbaugh.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:47:47 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:43:11 2011.

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There aren't 22 jobs bills. There are numerous bills but they're being fictitiously called "jobs bills".

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:49:46 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:40:31 2011.

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"Politico isn't reprinting sinclair's allegations because they are unsubstantiated"

That's hardly evidence of your wild, bizarre, outlandish claim about Obama. Plus, Sinclair is a known confidence man and convicted swindler. None of the women coming forward against Cain have such credibility issues.

What is your evidence to substantiate your incendiary, grossly false, and inappropriate characterization of me as an "animal savage beast"?

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 9 08:50:35 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:09:04 2011.

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If it came between Obama and Cain, my choice would be Cain, but it would be a worse "lesser of two evils" election than Obama and McCain was.


On what grounds do you see Cain as the "lesser of two evils"?

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:51:18 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:25:57 2011.

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What about the GOP's public pledge to use their control of Congress to upset and sabotage every initiative Obama makes, for the express purpose of defeating him in the next election?

It's Harry Reid's Senate that is blocking the Job bills. The Republicans only have one house in Congress, not two.

Obama said he'd get tough on terrorism. He did, killing OBL AND his top deputy.


Obama didn't do it, our superior military caught them. Obama just gave the okay once they were found, just like any president would have.

Obama said he'd do something about high unemployment. He has introduced a jobs plan that the GOP keeps filibustering and derailing. Where is the GOP's own jobs plan?


Being blocked in the Democrat Harry Reid controlled Senate.

Obama said he'd send the US Navy out to fight African-coast pirates who were attacking US shipping. He is the first President since John Tyler to actually do it.

Piracy has only become increasingly a problem in the last few years. ANY president would have done the same after one of our Navy ships were under attack.

Obama said he'd end the Iraq war in his first term, which he DID.


Nope, the surge that BUSH ordered (and Obama voted against as senator) is what made this possible.

Obama said he'd reform healthcare


No, he performed a monstrosity that the majority of the country was against, and which caused the majority of the country to turn on the Democrats in 2010. The Democrats made their bed, and in just two short years made a country that was majorily with them to one that backlashed against the out of control congress and executive branch for those two years.



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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:52:02 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 9 08:43:11 2011.

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None of the "22" bills the GOP has in Congress are actual jobs legislation, and you, sir, know it full well. Obama is, in fact, fighting a hostile, obstructionist GOP Congress, by the GOP's own admission.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:52:59 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:29:03 2011.

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Overall he did a terrible job causing the onslaught of at this point more than half of the country against how he has performed.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:53:12 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:49:46 2011.

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Politico ran the story and gave Sinclair publicity. That's enough. Everyone knows what he was claiming after Politico ran the story. You asked so I linked.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 9 08:58:54 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:51:18 2011.

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Obama didn't do it, our superior military caught them. Obama just gave the okay once they were found, just like any president would have.

Our superior military couldn't have found him without authorization from the Commander-in-Chief. The previous one gave up looking for him.

Nope, the surge that BUSH ordered (and Obama voted against as senator) is what made this possible.

True. Obama even admitted in 2008 that the surge "succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated."

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 09:00:24 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 08:51:18 2011.

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The "majority" of the country was FOR HCR, until the GOP launched its disgusting scare campaign that had people thinking there were gonna be Nazi-style "death panels", and all kinds of other hysterical nonsense.

Exhibit "A" for health care reform:

The rotting corpse of my friend Renee, who died at age 40 because she was uninsured, and her life therefore not considered worth the cost of ONE CHEST X-RAY.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 09:04:09 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 09:00:24 2011.

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I was against HCR from the start and still am against it.

As for "Death Panels" didn't Krug admit that's the only way to go about it long-term? It's common sense that the government will fuck people over when they're controlling the purses. No big deal. No talk about Nazi's. Just common sense.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 09:10:38 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 08:53:12 2011.

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How could "everyone know" what Sinclair was claiming "after Politico ran the story", if Politico wouldn't even state Sinclair's allegations?

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Terrapin station on Wed Nov 9 09:47:06 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Nov 9 08:39:08 2011.

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Bump

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:16:26 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 09:00:24 2011.

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The "majority" of the country was FOR HCR

People still are. It's the monstrosity that the Democrats put forth that we had to "pass" just for the sake of passing anything and to "pass so we can find out what's in it" that they turned against. No one denies that a reform is necessary, just not the monstrosity as put forth.



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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 9 10:16:55 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 9 08:46:23 2011.

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Anyone? If she is "speaking" what is she saying? What did Cain do? I heard on the news that she also filed a complaint at her next company over an "inappropriate" email the very next year. Not trying to blame the victim, but I'm curious as to what she considers harassment. If Cain asked her out or even made some over the line comments, it's not that big of a deal.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:17:15 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 9 09:04:09 2011.

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Whenever the government gets involved in anything or controls anything it turns into a disaster.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:19:22 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 08:31:52 2011.

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EXACTLY.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:21:19 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 9 08:34:03 2011.

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Most of us here are saying we don't feel Cain is fit for president (just as I feel Obama never was). But not for the nonsense irrelevant things you say. I have said all along here there are plenty of things to criticize Cain about, without this tangent.


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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:32:45 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 9 08:50:35 2011.

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Not too much different than I felt McCain in 2008 was the lesser of two evils. Far from an ideal president, many issues I don't agree with. But I find the road we are on right now to be much worse than the turn we could make trying a different road. I don't know what that different road holds, but I sure as hell know I don't want to remain on the road we are on.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 9 10:34:11 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:16:26 2011.

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The majority of the population is FOR HCR. Fully half of the supposedly opposed (as the republicant base is so quick to bring up) wanted to see HCR go much further than what was passed. Only 30%...roughly the republicant base....is opposed to HCR.

Fact is, they passed what they passed with full intentions of fixing it....such as added the highly desired public option (or opening Medicare asa paid premium insurance option). This is what happens when unreasonable politics get in the way of something that needs to be done. We've seen that happen since 2009, be it the first stimulus' pointless and wholly ineffective tax cuts, HCR as passed, down to the obstructionism seen from the republicants in their filibustering virtually every single bill introduced lately, and the garbage (war on women, that Ryan "budget", ending Medicare, unionbusting etc.) coming from the House.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 9 10:39:16 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:17:15 2011.

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That's a myth. Some government programs run well, some don't. Some private services run well, some don't.

Which do you think is better run, the MTA or Verizon?



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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:44:08 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 9 10:34:11 2011.

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The majority of the population is FOR HCR

?????????? DO you have a reading comprehension problem, what did you not understand about "People still are [for healthcare reform]." that was written in my post, and then reitterated a second time with "No one denies that a reform is necessary". I will copy and paste my post a second time, as it seems you had trouble reading it the first time:

People still are [for HCR]. It's the monstrosity that the Democrats put forth that we had to "pass" just for the sake of passing anything and to "pass so we can find out what's in it" that they turned against. No one denies that a reform is necessary, just not the monstrosity as put forth.

Fact is, they passed what they passed with full intentions of fixing it.

That is implying they admit it was faulty, and a monstrosity. They should have waited and pass a bill that didn't need all this "fixing". Passing a bill just for the sake of passing anything is NOT the way it should be done. And worse, what they did is pass a faulty bill KNOWINGLY. And they got what they deserved, the public turned on them for it.


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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:46:06 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 9 10:39:16 2011.

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Certainly not the MTA. Public money involves lots of waste as no one is accountable. Private money needs to be accounted for.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:47:19 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:46:06 2011.

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...Furthermore, Verizon isn't a public utility. If you don't like Verizon, go to sprint. If you don't like them go to TMobile, ATT or Metro PCS. Take your pick. If you don't like the MTA, which subway should I take instead?

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 9 10:51:22 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 9 10:39:16 2011.

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FEMA and the Military are well run.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 9 11:18:07 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:47:19 2011.

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Sprint doesn't offer high quality voice service where I live. Only Verizon does. They are a monopoly in that market.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 11:28:35 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 9 11:18:07 2011.

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Too bad for you, but as businesses expand, that will change. Most people don't have that problem. There's probably 5 or 6 choices I have, if not more.

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Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 9 12:02:26 2011, in response to Re: ANOTHER Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 9 10:16:26 2011.

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We have a republic and not a democracy. Congress should know better than the public in general the necessary excruciating minutiae of a universal healthcare bill.

Or would you prefer Single Payer?

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