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Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011

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Michele, dear, the USSR fell 20 years ago. What is it with GOP candidates and their astonishing ignorance of history? La Palin was bad enough with her fractured retelling of Paul Revere's midnight ride, now Bachmann is worrying about a country that hasn't existed in nearly a generation? WTH???

Here's what she said during a radio interview with Jay Sekulow:

"What people recognize is that there's a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline. They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward,"

I guess Bachmann can't see Russia from her house...

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:17:53 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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You were expecting maybe sanity? :)



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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:19:53 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:17:53 2011.

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No no no no no make it stop make it stop it burns it burns

Even my cat ran away from THIS horrible image...

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:21:28 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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all 57 states
signing the Westminster Abbey guest book with the wrong year
the Cambridge police acted stupidly
bowing to foreign leaders
typical white woman


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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by DanD124 on Fri Aug 19 22:21:52 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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Olog's still concerned about the rise of the NAZIs...

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:29:32 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:21:28 2011.

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REALLY? Just a few GOP flubs by Palin and Bachmann:

Paul Revere warmed the British
The rise of the Soviet Union
The President declares war
Blacks better off under slavery
The Whiskey Rebellion was led by the British
Kennedy created Medicare






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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 19 22:30:05 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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I wouldn't consider that too far out there though. Putin is a dictator type. That is, unless he gets ousted in favor of the owner of the New Jersey Nets (who is the richest man in Russia).

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:31:44 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:19:53 2011.

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Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet ... That's just the floor show. The real loonies show up in the second act. :)

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:32:02 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 19 22:30:05 2011.

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Modern Russia is a ostensibly constitutional democracy, though, which the old USSR never was.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:32:44 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by DanD124 on Fri Aug 19 22:21:52 2011.

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Then you'd think he'd be paying attention to his favorite party then ...

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:34:13 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:29:32 2011.

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"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened." -Joe Biden, apparently unaware that FDR wasn't president when the stock market crashed in 1929 and that only experimental TV sets were in use at that time

"Stand up, Chuck, let 'em see ya." --Joe Biden, to Missouri state Sen. Chuck Graham, who is in a wheelchair,

“Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” Obama’s home state of Illinois, and not Arkansas, shares a border with Kentucky.

my Muslim faith

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Aug 19 22:34:42 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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She should be in Supermax, NOT Congress.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:40:48 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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You not able to see the headlines? Forgot that back in 2005, Putin called the fall of the USSR the 20th Century's "greatest geopolitical tragedy"? He couldn't have said something more reprehensible, never mind anti-US and antisemitic. Putin's ambition is to rebuild the Soviet Union, albeit in his own image.



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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:44:36 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:40:48 2011.

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Putin can cry all he wants about the old USSR, but even he would be hard-pressed to rebuild it. Such a thing would take military force far beyond what Russia is capable of supporting, PLUS there's the not-so-minor matter of the Russian people themselves, who won't be so quick to allow the resurrection of the USSR.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:46:23 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:44:36 2011.

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Which do you think has a better chance of happening? A new USSR or 57 states?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:46:51 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:40:48 2011.

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You're SO insane that you can't understand what it means to a patriot of some other nation when their nation turns entirely to shit when it fell?

Maybe Pooty will weigh in when you're writhing in agony when you realize that the republicans have finally accomplished the same thing here all in the name of "starving the monster" and that monster is you?

Sorry ... he's entitled to feel that way. Russia and its former empire are in a lot worse shape now than they were. And that was pretty bad to start with.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:47:41 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:46:23 2011.

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Russia isn't as flat-assed broke as we are according to our republicans. They have exports.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 22:48:37 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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Partisan post.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:49:51 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:44:36 2011.

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No, it wouldn't take military force. All he needs is economic force, just like Germany used in Europe. Right now, Russia and Germany are working arm-in-arm to wage this economic warfare as well as carve up Eastern Europe between them . . . yes, it is what it sounds like.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:50:28 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 22:48:37 2011.

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Nope. Bachmann opened the door to this all by herself...

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:50:31 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 22:48:37 2011.

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Perhaps, but what party?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:51:25 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:49:51 2011.

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Where do you get this tinfoil-hat stuff from?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:55:24 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:51:25 2011.

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germanforeignpolicy.com, stormfront and stratfor. And its cheapass Reynolds Wrap. :)

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 22:57:39 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 22:55:24 2011.

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What's up?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by The Silence on Fri Aug 19 22:57:42 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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Bachmann is in her mid 50s. Ask a person of average inteligence where Minsk is (with not abilty to look it up) and many of them will say "Russia", since that's where it was for about 100 years. To people of Bachmann's generation, "Russia" and "the Soviet Union" mean the same thing.



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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:57:50 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:51:25 2011.

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The mainstream media. It doesn't become "tinfoil hat stuff" just because you want it to be. Russia's got their hand on the gas spigot; remember what they did to the Ukraine as a consequence (I wonder if a certain arachno-porcine cares about that at all); they utterly destroyed the Orange Revolution, between them and Germany.

And what about that country in the Caucasus with the same name as our fourth state? They did use military force on them. Don't dare think Pooty-poot's averse to using his military . . . forgot about Russian planes buzzing Guam back in '07?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 22:59:02 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:50:28 2011.

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Who cares? Shit like this is as stupid as complaining about Obama being on vacation before Labor Day.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 23:00:05 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by The Silence on Fri Aug 19 22:57:42 2011.

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Belarus still means "White Russia". And yes, I used to use USSR and Russia interchangeably myself.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 23:00:16 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by The Silence on Fri Aug 19 22:57:42 2011.

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If a person is running for President Of The United States, I think it's reasonable to expect him or her to have a working knowledge of geopolitics, regardless of age, no?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 23:01:04 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 23:00:16 2011.

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You mean like how many states there are?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 23:02:44 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 22:57:39 2011.

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Breaking news from Rupert of course!



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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 23:03:30 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 23:00:05 2011.

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USED TO?!?!

LOL

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by WillD on Fri Aug 19 23:07:17 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 19 22:49:51 2011.

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Russia's economic power is even more inextricably tied to oil prices than the other OPEC members, mostly because their energy concerns have not translated petrodollars into foreign investments. Yes, they have a few overseas holdings, but by and large they're using their relatively new found oil income to pay off the old Soviet debts. As such they (and Venezuela, and Iran, for that matter) are even more susceptible to any movement we can make toward reducing our demand for oil. Thus one has to wonder why you'd criticize efforts to marginalize their economic power (and apparently Germany's influence if we follow your Beck-like chalkboard scrawlings). We can beat them without firing a shot, yet you and your ilk seem hell bent on both making us thoroughly subservient to them, and forcing us into a war with them. Why do we have to pursue a path which gets us the worst of all possible outcomes?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by The Silence on Fri Aug 19 23:10:35 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 23:00:16 2011.

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Being all of 5 when Cilton was first elected, I've only really known him, Bush the sequle and B.O. I'm quite used to the disapointment.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 23:12:02 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by WillD on Fri Aug 19 23:07:17 2011.

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Because they have absolutely no interest in America and would rather use us to carry out their aims and to hell with the consequences.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by WillD on Fri Aug 19 23:23:56 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 23:12:02 2011.

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Oh, here I thought it was because it kept the profit margins in the Defense and Oilfield Support fields as high as possible, and that's really the only group his party cares about these days.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 23:27:30 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by WillD on Fri Aug 19 23:23:56 2011.

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They're even screwing those sectors over now. :-\

No, it's all about destroying America in their raging tantrum over us not voting for Mrs. Bullwinkle.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 03:40:43 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:34:13 2011.

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Arkansas would have had a four corners with Kentucky were it not for the Missouri bootheel.

The "my Muslim faith" quote in its entirety:

And what was the first thing the McCain campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin. Let's not play games. What I was suggesting — you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith ...


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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 03:46:00 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 23:01:04 2011.

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Didn't we already explain to you that it was a verbal flub?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 20 03:48:44 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 03:46:00 2011.

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Only Democrats have verbal flubs. Republicans are attacked relentlessly. THIW.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 04:03:49 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 20 03:48:44 2011.

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Yes it is how it works. After all, Palin never said she could see Russia from her house, she made an entirely factual statement about a part of Alaska where one could see Russia.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 20 04:21:34 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', and rightfully so, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 22:46:23 2011.

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Which do you think has a better chance of happening? A new USSR or 57 states?

The former is coming to pass right now.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 20 04:23:15 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by DanD124 on Fri Aug 19 22:21:52 2011.

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I've posted about Russia as Putin has changed it before, and their new version is more fascist than communist. Ever heard of the Nashi?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 20 04:29:02 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 20 04:23:15 2011.

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Do you think they're the same people who were chanting "Seig Heil" and "Russians for Russia" at a December rally?

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 20 04:33:30 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 20 04:29:02 2011.

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Very likely. They also view Putin almost as though he's a god.

"Sieg und Heil" is a phrase that goes back to antiquity (means "Victory and Salvation"); the crowds chanted this when Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne on Christmas Day in the year 800.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 20 04:58:37 2011, in response to Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:14:58 2011.

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Doesn't this belong in GaffeChat?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 20 06:14:03 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 03:40:43 2011.

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The full quote makes it even worse.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 20 06:18:03 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 03:46:00 2011.

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Just pointing out his hypocrisy and partisanship by weighting the verbal flubs of one side more harshly than the other.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 20 06:51:05 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 20 04:03:49 2011.

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Exactly, which was then turned into "I can see Russia from my house" by Saturday night Live, and the left turned that into a "factual" statement that they claim Palin said. THIW.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 20 06:54:49 2011, in response to Re: Michele Bachmann Concerned About 'Rise Of Soviet Union', 20 Years After Its Fall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 19 22:50:28 2011.

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NO, it's a flub just like Obama has made, and just like Biden makes, and just like Palin has done. Except to people like YOU it's weighed more heavily when a Republican does it.

It's like the "outrage" some of you came up with when Palin said North Korea was our Allie, when in the rest of the interview she was talking about South Korea, but of course, the N. Korea thing was taken out of context when she accidentally said North. THIW.

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