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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:24:28 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:56:36 2011. So the answer is slacking. Yep. As expected. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:25:03 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:57:41 2011. It wasn't pulled. It was slapped on the table! Your move. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:35:56 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 09:29:28 2011. GenXers are useless.A Failure. Millennials may be able to fix what's left of this country. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:37:22 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:22:29 2011. And I told you, they aren't in control of Congress to be able to change it yet. The average age is still 56...over 10 years older than the oldest GenXer. LEt's talk when they actually have the control to do something about the MESS the Baby Boomers left us. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:37:44 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:09:35 2011. He was right that Boomers are the worst generation in world history.He was wrong when he said that lobotomized GenXers can be expected to fix it. I busted a gut myself on that one. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:37:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:24:28 2011. Yes, can't dispute the facts, so call it "slacking". LOL. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:40:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:28:54 2011. I used to have Tetris circa 1990-91.What a maddening thing that was. I ended up giving it away to an Iraqi POW. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:42:48 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 13:14:10 2011. Yeah thanks Boomers for giving us the gift of AIDS. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:45:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:37:44 2011. Well at least we agree on half this mess that the Baby Boomers have destroyed (and continue to destroy) this country and there is no let up in sight for at least 10 years to get rid of them infesting the government. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:46:55 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:37:22 2011. Still making excuses. I got off my ass and worked in politics since I was 18. Campaigned, reported, even helped put policy information on the desks of politicians. Called them, wrote to them, held their feet to the fire. And YOUR generation did what? Made a playlist for the headphones maybe? Watched cable? What? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:47:11 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:42:48 2011. Yeah, great group of losers. And she's actually praising themselves like they even knew what was going on anyway they were so stoned. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 19:47:46 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 09:29:28 2011. Karma, the pendulum swung so hard in one direction that it had to swing back the other way. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:47:54 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 09:41:43 2011. That's where cutting should begin.....Yep like MTA pensions. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:48:08 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:37:44 2011. That's all I was saying. But I expect it to slide down a whole lot faster once his is in. Teabaggers are in there now pulling the levers and a good percentage of them are ... :( |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:49:16 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:46:55 2011. Campaigned, reported, even helped put policy information on the desks of politicians. Called them, wrote to them, held their feet to the fire.Yeah, and look where that got our sorry excuse of a government once they got in power. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:49:44 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:40:58 2011. So when's the torture trial? :)Rubik died for our sins. Heh. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:50:17 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 19:47:46 2011. Good God, we agree again. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:51:08 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:48:08 2011. Teabaggers are in there now pulling the levers and a good percentage of them are ... :(....still Baby Boomers. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:51:16 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:49:16 2011. You sure you ain't a librul with all that whining? I asked what you DID ... not who you ran crying to. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:52:14 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:51:08 2011. Don't make me look it up again. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:53:20 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:51:16 2011. I have no desire to be a politician. What I did do is vote against them, and will continue to do so. All your "protests" and "anti-establishment" crap that the Baby Boomers did in their 20's just set them up what they became now....worse than the tyrants they protested against in the 60' and 70's. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 19:53:27 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 19:47:46 2011. 2012 is coming maybe its the final sign =p |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 19:58:47 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:51:08 2011. Heh, falling back on "teabaggers". |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 25 20:00:01 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:42:48 2011. Huh?Suffering a bit from the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, aren't we? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 20:00:10 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 13:17:58 2011. Hit a nerve, didn't I?If it weren't for babyboomers, you wouldn't be here right now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:01:07 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 19:58:47 2011. Oh goody. Well, we'll just wait for Chris then since I looked.Ready for your fail whale? Mayonnaise or tartar? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 20:02:06 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 25 20:00:01 2011. In the 80's we paid for the LCD inspired free for all the Baby Boomers had in the 60's and 70's. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 20:05:17 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 20:00:10 2011. Not at all. I had plenty, and did it responsibly, unlike your generation's pot stupor free for all. And not everyone was conceived along side a campfire while singing Kumbaya in a mist of opium. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 20:06:03 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 20:02:06 2011. In the 80's we paid for the LCD inspired free for all the Baby Boomers had in the 60's and 70'sShoulda stuck with CRT. And I kinda thought that LCD arrived with digital watches in the 70s . . . |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:06:45 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 20:05:17 2011. I think this back and forth is pointless, pointing fingers is what politicians do, finding solutions is what needs to be done, let the history books lay blame, but pointing fingers does nothing to help. (not saying you btw) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:07:57 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:53:20 2011. Did I say anything about protesting or anti-establishment crap? Don't you recall that I used to be a republican? I presented solutions that allowed government to do more with less outlay. I worked to try to get Goldwater elected too. But yeah, going and pulling a lever once a year is hard work and all that a citizen should be expected to endure. Maybe you'll be able to click a box on an ipad someday so you don't have to trudge out in the cold weather to show everybody how grumpy you are some day soon. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:12:47 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:06:45 2011. Nah ... he's just as much a part of it as Olog or me. I kinda like the "pot-induced" bit. From what I've seen of others though, that stuff did far less damage than all that ritalin, tl;dr. :) |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:17:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:12:47 2011. I think America as a whole is a giant college student waiting until 5am to begin doing their college paper thats due at 11am. The problem is that America has fallen to ideologies that don't work, our political system lacks those who are more moderate and those who are moderate are afraid of speaking out because the radicals that now control both sides will attack quite quickly.McCain has been extremely silent on this debt issue which is a shock, john kerry too, and Im tired of seeing this small time members of congress both democratic and republican think they can upstage the president Like it's a badge of honor to disagree or fight against the president. That says something about society and our culture. At a time where partisan politics needs to be thrown away and real solutions even though they may be unpopular must be done, we're turning away and it's an absolute shame. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:28:49 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:17:43 2011. Thank you for a little logic and yep, same nonsense is what's got me frightened to. Obammy, followed by Boner are going to be doing an "emergency address" on all channels at 9PM. I heard earlier that as soon as Wall Street closed, a fuckload of money went into German bonds to the point of no more available. So something's up ... as Cheney would say, "big time" ... meanwhile still no deal, nothing but sniping. :( |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:32:27 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:28:49 2011. You know this post just tingled Ologs german sense. Perhaps Moodys gave Boehner and Obama a ring and said "if you dont do something now..." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:33:57 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:32:27 2011. They did that last week again for the umpteenth time. :( |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:37:13 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:33:57 2011. Supposedly this debt news has spooked China big time specially this week, and if they need to continue funding they need the confidence of chinese investors. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:47:10 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:37:13 2011. China supposedly doubled down a couple of weeks ago with such fierce purchasing that they had to hide many of their buys behind brokers in Europe so as to not trip alarms over all the money they flew in here. Now they've been buying Yen and Euros the last few days, so that too will be "interesting." |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 21:23:35 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:47:11 2011. Nope.We're the losers. They had fun with sex in their day. When it was finally our turn, they gave us HIV to play with. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 21:30:35 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 19:51:08 2011. Unlike others, I can understand that Unca Chris has other things to do, and at the same time I don't want to put these away in bookmarks either. So as far as those baggers go, along with a few surprises as well, here's the breakdown. It seems as though republicans don't have a problem with boomers, they're beating down "the silent generation" (a/k/a "greatest") ... THAT was a surprise. Biggest assholes ARE boomers though. LOLDemocratic Leadership Pelosi, Nancy 1940 Silent Hoyer, Steny 1939 Silent Clyburn, Jim 1940 Silent Republican Leadership Boehner, John 1949 Boomer Cantor, Eric 1963 Gen-X Blunt, Roy 1950 Boomer Tea Party Leadership Sarah Palin 1964 Gen-X Walker, Scott 1967 Gen-X Christie, Chris 1962 Gen-X So in the 112th Congress — 43 newly elected in GenX'ers in the House, raising the total to 90, and three in the Senate. All but two of the newcomers are Republicans, and Gen-Xers will comprise a full quarter of the GOP caucus. So rest assured, plenty of GenX assholes to go around, and the boomers (Boner and Blunt) will be gone next year leaving none in the leadership. Meanwhile, the biggest hating is on the "greatest generation" ... that's who stole your money and turned you commie. Happy, Ren? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 21:34:11 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:17:43 2011. Great post. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 21:34:44 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 20:28:49 2011. You claim to agree with his post, and then go right into the extremist partisan rhetoric. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 21:38:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 20:17:43 2011. It's a GenX thing. They feel entitled to start out on top. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 21:39:27 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 21:34:44 2011. Might as well ... waded through plenty of partisan on the way down there. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 21:44:07 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 21:34:11 2011. Thats why I don't get mad at Obama for HCR or I don't get mad at him for going after a bigger debt reduction package or asking for a tax increase. Yes the HCR isn't perfect, but hopefully future presidents can amend it, refine it, make it truly better. With the debt reduction this 2.4 trillion dollar reduction for a 2.7 trillion debt increase makes no sense whatsoever. Obama at this point at this late in the game has no choice but to accept this crap. I think had he known this was coming he probably would've pushed a debt increase during the democratic lame duck session.I don't like this debt package, we should've gone hardcore, 6-8 trillion looking to halve this debt, and get to work on a long term HCR solution. I dont expect these things to be popular but I voted for a president to make the decision no matter the popularity risk. If he pulled off a 6-8 trillion dollar reduction in the debt, with HCR, and going after Al Qaeda and he was a 1 term president, I'd be proud that he risked his presidency on making the tough choices. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 21:54:22 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 21:30:35 2011. GenXers are so bad that they'll make us miss the Boomers. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 21:56:23 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 21:30:35 2011. Correction.The United States Census Bureau considers a baby boomer to be someone born during the demographic birth boom between 1946 and 1964, including 1964 Democratic Leadership Pelosi, Nancy 1940 Silent Hoyer, Steny 1939 Silent Clyburn, Jim 1940 Silent Republican Leadership Boehner, John 1949 Boomer Cantor, Eric 1963 Blunt, Roy 1950 Boomer Tea Party Leadership Sarah Palin 1964 Walker, Scott 1967 Gen-X Christie, Chris 1962 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 21:59:22 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 16:54:20 2011. "Meaningful cuts are wasteful military spending including contracting out services for deployments such as KBR running mess halls, and unwanted programs like that plane the republicans just funded."Speaking of asinine, what plane did the republicans fund? Was this a military plane? Did the commander in chief veto it? Why would he buy a plane he didn't want? This sounds like your made up bullshit. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 22:01:07 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 21:38:43 2011. Except for the fact your Boomers are still in power. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 22:02:26 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 19:47:54 2011. Talk about flat-lining dumb mother-fuckers. You gotta be the winner, hands down. So you want to cut the pensions of maybe 25% of the people here who have earned those pensions? So says the psychopathic ass hole that said this |
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