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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 08:27:03 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 03:45:41 2011. Kevin - yur slippin again. You are part of "y'all". You are not immune |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 08:32:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 23 03:42:35 2011. It's so obvious to all but the extremist on the left. You even hear the term "Lack of leadership" now creeping into commentaries on CNN and even MSLSD..... Even they can no longer ignore the obvious... |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 23 08:37:20 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 08:32:58 2011. Entertain me... show me... please |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 08:41:10 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 23 08:37:20 2011. Not my job, Pepe. Not interested in smug, self satisfied know-it-alls. Entertain yourself. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 23 09:06:46 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 08:41:10 2011. You made a point, and you can't back it up, and I'm supposed to believe you? Yeah.... and the sky is green and the moon is made of cheese. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 09:11:30 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 23 09:06:46 2011. Frankly, Pepe, I don't give a damn |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 09:23:06 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 01:16:47 2011. The federal government does not subsidize cta, that's Illinois's responsibilty. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 23 09:24:18 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 09:11:30 2011. Then don't make claims you can't back up... |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Jul 23 10:22:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 22 23:45:51 2011. When I think of freedom, I think of commies like you. Especially when your response to people not being able to start their business due to government regulation is to break the law.We'll find you soon. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 23 10:43:19 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 09:23:06 2011. Dream on, IDIOT. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 23 10:56:01 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 09:23:06 2011. Wow! CTA is so incompetent they don't get any federal grants for capital expenditures, the way MTA does? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 23 11:25:41 2011, in response to Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 22 18:37:06 2011. The Democratic Party does NOT want to see a default, they want to see some sanity in planning and reducing the deficit. Not that it's actually a major problem (latest CBS poll showed 53% concerned about unemployment, 7% concerned about the deficit/debt as their primary issue) to the overwhelming majority. Shutting down the government by cutting off the money IS far greater a concern, as it should be, to everyone.The republicans are acting like a bunch of idiots. They are willing to take the global economy out for no damn reason beyond their personal greed. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 13:02:52 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 23 10:56:01 2011. For capital yes, operating no. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Jul 23 15:40:30 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 23 11:25:41 2011. If they didn't want to see a default, they would've set a budget or at least given a budget plan in the last 3 years. Which they ain't. If the demokkkrats didn't want a default, they wouldn't have been the Party of No and passed the damned thing already. The federal demokkkrats are doing the same thing they've done at the state and local levels nationally. Scare people, cause chaos, and destroy lives.Obama has said he wants to take out the system, and destroy it. Stop projecting. And Obama's base sees it too. America and Obama's fundraisers from 2008 have all pulled a Boehner and is giving up on this loser. But at least his chief fundraiser is still claiming to taking international and foreign funds. Illegally. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 16:00:39 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 08:27:03 2011. I'm out of this piece of the action financially. If what Wall Street was threatening comes down on Monday, it'll be a win. While everyone else is prattling their favorite propaganda blogs, we did something about it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 16:07:49 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 13:02:52 2011. That's how it is all over. |
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Posted by subWAYSURF on Sat Jul 23 16:38:02 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Jul 23 15:40:30 2011. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 17:21:20 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 23 09:24:18 2011. Anything you say, Pepe' |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 17:23:08 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 16:00:39 2011. So, then if there is no calamity on Wall St. on Monday, you've lost. That's how it works.... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 17:26:32 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jul 22 19:31:59 2011. "It will be a violation of the constitution to go into default, thus Obama will use the nuke option and raise it using executive authority."Hey Pepe, prove this statement !!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 17:30:23 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 17:23:08 2011. Nope. I either come out ahead, or come out slightly ahead. But given that everything was hingeing on Boehner agreeing on Friday, I'd say it won't be slightly. Damage has already been done. Enjoy that tax cut. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 20:18:27 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 16:07:49 2011. ok |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 20:52:18 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 17:30:23 2011. Stop the fronting! Have you agreed to pay more in your taxes or are you befitting from that same tax cut? Have you voluntarily thrown an extra grand or two into the pot? I'm willing to bet not. No one here is enjoying their tax cut. I'm willing to bet that you, like everyone else, takes every legitimate deduction that you are entitled to. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:04:01 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 20:52:18 2011. I'm doing like a republican because I'm part of the corporate class. I just tossed $225,000 offshore, pay nothing in taxes PLUS I get a foreign investment tax credit. Right now, we're doing the Bush dance. And you, mister wage slave? Bet yours will be going up to make up the difference. Whatta country! :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:11:27 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:04:01 2011. So then why play the hypocrite? You can't criticize others for what you are doing. I pay my taxes. I don't begrudge those like you who don't as long as they do it legally.BTW: I'm hardly a wage slave any more as you well know. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:15:59 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:11:27 2011. Merely pointing out the unintended gift by the GOP. After all, I'm supposed to be a librul. :)I don't think it's right though. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:17:57 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:15:59 2011. But you & the (liberal) Mrs. are still taking advantage of the loophole like every other American would. The difference is, the rest of us don't front with feigned moral indignation. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 23 21:19:16 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 22 19:25:50 2011. The programs INCORRECTLY characterized as "entitlements"you must mean. Social Security is actually an investment pension, so ROI is the best descriptor for that system. Medicare is insurance, and there's a premium for it.To not keep both programs going, paying full benefits, is a breach of contract. Apparently the republicans have noissue with breaking this contract. Nobody should take them at their word if this is how they intend to do things. Get them OUT of office FAST. It'll be best for America when they're GONE. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:20:26 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:17:57 2011. Ummm ... no. Our legal management is. And there's no indignation on my part ... what's happened here merely proves what I've been saying all along. If someone took home a paycheck for that amount, how much would they get assraped? But if you're a friend of the GOP, you're home free. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:23:04 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:11:27 2011. Finally, the big man is starting to play the role. He ordered Reid, Pelosi, Boehner and McConnell to the White House, and on a Saturday no less. I still expect that it was biased with his usual partisan bullshit but at least there's the pretense of leadership. And of course, Pelosi probably had to cancel her bikini waxing appointment. Sorry Nan! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:30:48 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:20:26 2011. You keep playing the republican vs democrat thing. I cashed out a considerable amount of vacation and sick leave, thank you. Republican or democrat, I was only allowed to put a maximum amount into my 401K and a maximum amount into my 457 plan. The rest - had to be taken in cash after withholding at the rate of about 47%. Yeah, I know it sux but it would have been more sucky under Clinton and worse had I waited for obama to do his thing. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 21:40:49 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:30:48 2011. Just sayin' ... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:49:47 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:30:48 2011. Thankfully, for obama's 1/2 hearted tax cut, it made it advantageous to make a move while the Social Security withholding was cut. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:20:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 23 21:49:47 2011. Bad news though is that the payout side is what's going to be taking a bigger cut. COLA already hit in the plan, amounts next. But with default looming, that can wait for another time. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 23 22:22:08 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 23 07:46:03 2011. Fred, that's the way the Republicans work. No compromise, the other guy (the Democrats) is always. wrong. Compromise vanished years ago. On both sides.A pox on both their houses. I'm sorry I'm a registered Democrat. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 00:40:07 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jul 22 20:19:03 2011. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 00:41:23 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 23 00:45:16 2011. What's up? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 00:54:07 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 22 19:31:59 2011. I think people making $400,000 or more a year could afford to pay an addition 2%Towards what? I have problems with many entitlements. Especially foreign aid Depends on who it goes to. I don't have time for libertarians like Ron Paul who say that you have to cut off Israel though. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 01:06:33 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 00:54:07 2011. Anytime people say we need to cut foreign aid, that's code for Israel. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 01:12:21 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 25 01:06:33 2011. No, it's not code for Israel. Israel gets less than 10% of foreign aid. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 01:22:42 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 01:12:21 2011. LOL, "code" . . . gotta love that lib paranoia, always looking for "code words" to try and make it sound like someone's not saying what they're actually saying . . . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 01:25:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 01:22:42 2011. You mean like "libruls" and "manifestos" and the like. Right?So what island were you planning to take out? Got that nitrate mixed yet? Need to know whether to leave the awning up or down tomorrow, so let us know. k? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 01:33:53 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 01:22:42 2011. Alinsky tactic. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 01:58:51 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 00:54:07 2011. Towards what?Debt. Schools. Anything for the betterment of America. I don't know if Obama would raise taxes to pay of the debt, or just increase spending. Depends on who it goes to. I don't have time for libertarians like Ron Paul who say that you have to cut off Israel though. Cut EVERYONE'S foreign aid in half to start and go from there. What can they do about it? And would would happen to us? Nothing bad. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 02:00:31 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 01:58:51 2011. Debt. Schools. Anything for the betterment of AmericaCan't divert entitlement spending that way? And how do you get the leftism out of schools then? Cut EVERYONE'S foreign aid in half No, not our allies. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 02:04:51 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 02:00:31 2011. YES our allies. First in line for that. They're doing fine, we're not. Let them pay their own bills for a change. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 09:04:05 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by subWAYSURF on Sat Jul 23 16:38:02 2011. Really. He should write a novel out of all the fiction he's posted here. He's got enough material. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 09:17:49 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 01:58:51 2011. Cutting foreign aid would be meaningless WRT the budget. It's such a small percentage.Meaningful cuts are wasteful military spending including contracting out services for deployments such as KBR running mess halls, and unwanted programs like that plane the republicans just funded. Cutting subsidies for big business....agriculture, mining, oil would go a long way. raising taxes on the biggest...businesses,incomes, would make an even BIGGER difference in the deficit and debt. Remember it wasn't all that long ago when the republicans were whining to cut taxes instead of using the surplus to pay down the debt, which it was INTENDED FOR. Some of us saw this coming a long long time ago. However, the republicans coopted the government and stole everyone's future. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 09:29:28 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 09:17:49 2011. It's the Baby Boomers that have destroyed the country and "stole everyone else's future". It will be up to the GenX'ers to fix the MESS that the baby boomers have caused. It's amazing that the Greatest Generation produced one of the most useless generations in between. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 09:41:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 09:17:49 2011. "unwanted programs like that plane the republicans just funded. "Actually, it's huge entitlements like health care reform that will drive new debt out of control (to the extent of $30 Trillion) and most of the citizens of this country DO NOT WANT. That's where cutting should begin..... |
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