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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:19:08 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 17:08:38 2011. >>>I wouldn't say that, exactly (you know what the post is by now), but apparently the traits that lead to homosexuality also boost the reproductive success of their female relatives.You really are taking this hypothesis as "fact", and that's where your problem lies. That part is an hypothesis. It does have evidence supporting it but so for it's not conclusive. >>>Everything is ultimately physical, as our brains are ultimately physical. It's societal, not physical. All things are physical. I'll explain this in depth another time. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:20:58 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 17:13:51 2011. Shared environmental effects are known not to contribute to male sexual orientation. As you noted, there must be some non-shared, non-genetic factors at work (in addition to the genetic ones). I suspect that this is developmental noise. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:21:27 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 17:44:17 2011. Behavioral genetics is perfectly scientific. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 19:22:46 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:19:08 2011. That part is an hypothesis. It does have evidence supporting it but so for it's not conclusive.That's the point, your "facts" aren't facts. All things are physical. I'll explain this in depth another time. Please spare us the bile. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:23:49 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:04:15 2011. I would broadly agree, but in principle we could engineer a host of traits in addition to sexual orientation, which is why it is a bigger discussion. As it applies to sexual orientation, yes, if genetic engineering to that degree was available, parents (who could afford it) could remove any homosexual genes from their children. I wouldn't argue that that is wrong if they so choose. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:26:03 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:15:01 2011. Skin color doesn't cause the decline in fertility but is associated with people whose behavior in today's environment (lower sex drive, a willingness to delay child birth in favor of long-term goals, etc...) that causes them to have a lower fertility. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:26:50 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:16:31 2011. Exactly. That's what I meant. They also tend to (not always) have lighter skin. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:35:55 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 19:22:46 2011. That's the point, your "facts" aren't facts.That male homosexuality evolved because it confers an evolutionary benefit to their female maternal relatives because of boosted fertility is an hypothesis. That the female maternal relatives of gay men have higher fertility is a FACT. That sexual orientation has a genetic basis is also a FACT. I think what I was saying was clear but here it is again explicitly stated. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 19:37:24 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 19:26:03 2011. People who don't have as many kids do NOT necessarily have a "lower sex drive", NOR do they have a "lower fertility" rate. There is a such thing as birth control, which when uses, can have people have sex all day long if they want (meaning they don't have a "lower sex drive" as you so absurdly suggested), nor does it affect their fertility rate in any way. Sperm winds up in a condom and goes out with the kitchen garbage. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 19:37:59 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 19:37:24 2011. He'd be aware of that if he ever had sex . . . right? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 19:39:48 2011, in response to SubChat using "phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 18 18:42:15 2011. Harder than whatever's in your skull. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 20:24:39 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:17:20 2011. Of course, but "artificial insemination" is not hereditary or evolutionary.You were the one who brought up "modern society." Of course, but that has to do with society, not evolution. Society came about due to evolution. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 20:27:44 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:32:13 2011. Yes. Openly gay people. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 20:28:02 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:58:02 2011. Income doesn't count expenses. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 20:28:51 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:33:34 2011. Statistics don't say you're "supposed" to do anything. They say that it's likely that you would do something. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 18 20:31:11 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 00:11:54 2011. Is there something you'd like to share with the rest of the class? |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 18 20:47:32 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by TonyG on Wed May 18 20:31:11 2011. Yeah, guys that watch gay videos and get "false positive" erections are closeted. |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 20:54:16 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 20:28:02 2011. Gross income doesn't count expenses. Guess what net income counts? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 21:08:37 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 20:28:51 2011. Obviously not the ones he posted. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 18 21:14:07 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:28:48 2011. Monogamy does too... |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 21:22:41 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 20:47:32 2011. Hahaha, yeah if you like it a little you smile but if you like it a lot...your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 22:43:12 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 19:37:24 2011. Read my post about IQ and Sex. You are, in general, incorrect (albeit correct in some instances). |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 22:43:54 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 20:47:32 2011. Hard to argue with that... |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 18 22:45:16 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 21:22:41 2011. lol |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 22:45:43 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by R30A on Wed May 18 21:14:07 2011. For men especially, there is that (to a degree—obvious monogamy does confer a benefit to many men, especially in the more K-selected groups, otherwise it would never have evolved). |
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Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'' |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 19 00:46:55 2011, in response to SubChat using "phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 18 18:42:15 2011. Here's his dream soulmate. I should hook him up with this nice Italian girl.  |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum-seekers for "homosexuality" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 01:41:36 2011, in response to Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by SMAZ on Thu May 19 00:46:55 2011. Why do you worship her so much?Nothing about them nearly locking up this girl just because she made jokes about the Pope, though. Invoked the Lateran Treaty and all.  |
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum-seekers for ''homosexuality'' |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 19 01:51:45 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum-seekers for "homosexuality", posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 01:41:36 2011. Nearly locking her up?HAHAHAHAHA!!! Since when do you like unfunny declared Commies like Guzzante anyway? She makes Janeane Garofolo seem like a bucket of laughs. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 19 04:34:57 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Mitch45 on Wed May 18 12:10:53 2011. NO Mitch, but you can be done away with via "genetic manipulation". LOL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 19 05:38:58 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 17:44:17 2011. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 19 15:34:15 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using "phallometric tests" to check asylum seekers for "homosexuality", posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 19:39:48 2011. TeeHeeHee. |
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SubChat using "phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'' |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 19 15:41:38 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum-seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by SMAZ on Thu May 19 01:51:45 2011. I'd still like to see a teutonic hottie go sfter 'loggie.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liyaw1RD10Q&feature=player_embedded |
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Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'' |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 19 21:21:45 2011, in response to SubChat using "phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 19 15:41:38 2011. bump |
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Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'' |
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Posted by JayMan on Thu May 19 22:46:09 2011, in response to SubChat using "phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 19 15:41:38 2011. LMAO @ subject line! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 23:02:46 2011, in response to Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by JayMan on Thu May 19 22:46:09 2011. Well, you would, wouldn't you, given your brainwashed state. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 20 03:55:30 2011, in response to Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by JayMan on Thu May 19 22:46:09 2011. most amusing |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 20 03:55:38 2011, in response to Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by JayMan on Thu May 19 22:46:09 2011. most amusing |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 20 03:55:42 2011, in response to Re: SubChat using ''phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity'', posted by JayMan on Thu May 19 22:46:09 2011. most amusing |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 20 05:07:52 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using "phallometric tests" to check asylum seekers for "homosexuality", posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 23:02:46 2011. LOL |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 25 20:33:47 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 11:28:34 2011. I do embrace a form of eugenics. In this discussion however it's a great red herring. . . because you want it to be? Not good enough, Dr. Mengele. I wouldn't say eugenics was the cause of WWII . . . but you did anyway. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 19 17:50:49 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 18 08:32:11 2011. How come this is all you were worried about, in this and your other reply? You approve of what they're doing to these people in the Czech Republic, then? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 18:15:07 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 19 17:50:49 2011. Silence does not imply consent. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 19 18:43:39 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 18:15:07 2011. Tell that to Niemöller. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 19:17:36 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 19 18:43:39 2011. Niemöller wasn't referring to posting on Subchat. |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed May 9 19:30:12 2012, in response to Czech Republic using "phallometric tests" to check asylum seekers for "homosexuality", posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 17 23:11:24 2011. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 7 23:37:30 2025, in response to EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU, posted by dand124 on Wed May 9 19:30:12 2012. Yep . . . dandKKK still hasn't gotten any better. |
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