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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 13:43:16 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:23:04 2011.

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Yes, of course, gifted and sexuality are independent. It wouldnt surprise me if the truly gifted were asexual so they didn't have that nagging horniness to distract them from their studies/works. Man there are some days I get 'distracted' lol.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:45:22 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 13:10:17 2011.

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Maybe you didn't see this:

Evidence for heritability of sexual orientation....

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:45:55 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:28:48 2011.

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Different skin color is problematic. Light skin color in a sunny climate increase the risk of skin cancer and therefore premature death. There's also the discomfort of sunburn; nothing lowers the libido more than being in pain, with physical contact exacerbating said pain. Meanwhile dark skin in colder climate decreases Vitamin D production, which contributes to poor bone development and other problems.

On the other hand sexual orientation does not in any way diminish the ability to reproduce. If a society frowns upon homosexuality, homosexuals just pretend to fit in. Sex needn't involve love for reproductive purposes, we're not cylons.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:46:35 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:38:16 2011.

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No one can point to an direct cause, one gene, multiple genes, and so forth. And the case in point is right in your post, Some APPEAR to be.... Not ARE. It's not "fact", it's theory, educated guess, and hearsay.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:46:58 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:21:21 2011.

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Let's just say we're a long way off from that, so much so that's a whole 'nother conversation (genetic engineering).

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:47:33 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:45:22 2011.

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It's no more "fact" than the first time you posted it, or the second, or the third. It's theory, not FACT.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:48:05 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:39:39 2011.

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Please.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:48:49 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 13:28:29 2011.

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Yet, you haven't been able to explain how ONE THING I've said is wrong. It's easy to sit back and dismiss. How about you back it up and go through the analysis and explain how and why?

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:50:11 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:46:35 2011.

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No one can point to an direct cause

No, no one knows, not no one can.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:50:47 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:48:05 2011.

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Are you disputing a fact? It wouldn't be surprising considering that homosexuals have a higher than average income.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:51:00 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:42:50 2011.

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Hmmm, I don't know about that. Male sexuality is far more straightforward than female sexuality:

That is societal though. It's much more accepted in society for women to have homosexual thoughts than it is for males to. It's "okay" for otherwise heterosexual women to admit they may occasionally have a homosexual thought. An otherwise heterosexual male can not in society admit that he may occasionally have a homosexual thought.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:51:06 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:28:48 2011.

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I agree to an extent, but that said, humans are "animals", and the basic drive of animals is survival AND Reproduction. Homosexuality thwarts reproduction chances, so it is against the basic survival/reproduction drive of animals, so it will always be a trait that lessens survival rate of the species.

With nearly 7 billion strong that's clearly not the case.

Skin color does not go against survival of the species, as it does nothing to thwart survival or reproduction, so the two aren't entirely comparable.

Actually, it seems, light skin color in this day and age is detrimental to reproductive success, looking at fertility rates, so it seems you have your arguments backwards there...

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:51:42 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 13:32:08 2011.

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No, it's not. See my previous post to you.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:51:49 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:47:33 2011.

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Another "rightist" who doesn't know what theory means.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:52:35 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:46:58 2011.

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I wouldn't say it's a long way off. I figure it could happen in the lifetime of some younger people.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:53:32 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:45:55 2011.

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In modern society, all those skin things can be dealt with, it's not a drain on survival, only stupidity would.
On the other hand, homosexuals do not generally reproduce, even if obviously they physically can.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:54:38 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 13:43:16 2011.

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I guess you didn't see this post (IQ and Sex).

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:54:40 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:51:00 2011.

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I think that in this case society is based on nature. Men love watching lesbians in porn, but women don't feel the same way about gay men.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:55:32 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:51:06 2011.

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Is that really related to skin color or is that just a coincidence?

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:57:18 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:50:11 2011.

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Correct. As of right now, there is no "known" cause. Doesn't mean there isn't, but also no one can prove there IS (as the claim was trying to do).

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:58:33 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:53:32 2011.

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Which is false. In modern society, homosexuals can still have straight sex (you've never heard of married people with children being on the down-low or coming out at a late age?). Even if they find it repulsive, there's always alcohol and drugs. Meanwhile, thanks to artificial insemination, gays can have children without having sex.

They still haven't cured skin cancer you know. And it's just an example.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:58:50 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:46:35 2011.

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You are wrong on both counts. Behavioral genetics has conclusively demonstrated that sexual orientation is highly heritable AND a chromosome involved has been identified. That was the crux of what I was saying. Yes, so it is a FACT that sexual orientation is genetically influenced (as with all behavioral traits).

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 13:59:21 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:39:39 2011.

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My theory's going VIRAL!!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 14:00:05 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 13:39:05 2011.

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That's my position as well. Most pre-Christian Western civilizations recognized same sex attraction (at least for men). A Roman of Julius Caesar's time would find it bizarre that we strictly separate hetero and homosexual attractions.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:01:02 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:47:33 2011.

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Need we get into the meaning of theory, and for that matter, fact? In any case, the particular of these are facts and they fall into the the theory of behavioral genetics (also factual).

I don't want to have to pull out a link for Talkorigins.org in this discussion.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:02:17 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 13:51:00 2011.

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Or, more women are actually attracted to women...

There is evidence that what you suggest (though plausible in principle) is not the case.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:03:44 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:52:35 2011.

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It could indeed. But that is a part of the larger discussion about genetic engineering, which, really, is a whole other issue much bigger than mere sexual orientation.

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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:04:43 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:54:40 2011.

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I think that in this case society is based on nature.

Here's a secret: society is and always was based on nature.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 14:04:53 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:54:38 2011.

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LOL I didn't but I did now.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 18 14:05:01 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 12:57:18 2011.

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Is being blavk a "medical condition" or "abnormality"? How about having blue eyes? Being tall? Having fair skin?

Your description of homosexuality as an "abnormal", "Medical consition" that can be "cured" exposes a great deal about your attitudes towards gays and lesbians.

What, exactly, do you feel is wrong, or "abnormal" about us?

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:05:55 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:02:17 2011.

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Or, more women are actually attracted to women...


Because society allows that to be okay. The same is not true in the case of men.

There is evidence that what you suggest (though plausible in principle) is not the case.

Show the evidence. You can't "prove" something, when people won't even admit things. Most guys are trained society to never accept such a thing. There were some guys that are so insecure of their own masculinity because of this, that they can't even admit they know what a "good looking guy" means.



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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:06:20 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:55:32 2011.

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It's related to skin color the same way IQ is related to skin color: these are traits associated with more poleward-dwelling groups.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:08:51 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:50:11 2011.

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That's actually not accurate. It's an appeal to ignorance to say that because we don't know all the details involved in pathways to the genesis of sexual orientation that we know nothing about it, since we clearly do know something about it and we do know that genes are involved.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:09:56 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 14:00:05 2011.

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There may have been proportionally more non-heterosexual men in Roman times...

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:10:48 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:05:55 2011.

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Because society allows that to be okay. The same is not true in the case of men.

Bisexuals rock, Lesbians not so much.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:11:11 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:51:06 2011.

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With nearly 7 billion strong that's clearly not the case.

Uh the WORLD population is almost 7 billion, not the world's "homosexuals". And homosexuals reproduce at only a small fraction of heterosexuals.

Actually, it seems, light skin color in this day and age is detrimental to reproductive success, looking at fertility rates, so it seems you have your arguments backwards there...

PLEASE explain that. Also please note, the two don't necessarily mean mutual exclusivity. It's a fact that white people reproduce LESS than darker skin people, but that doesn't mean it's mutually exclusive. Note that most white people reproduce less by CHOICE, and because of societal reasons, not necessarily physical reasons. Your evidence that "light skin people are less fertile" please.

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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:12:03 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:51:06 2011.

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Actually, it seems, light skin color in this day and age is detrimental to reproductive success, looking at fertility rates, so it seems you have your arguments backwards there...

You're starting to make me sick again, do you ever even post on SubChat or BusChat?

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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:15:16 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:05:55 2011.

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Here, the evidence of sexual arousal patterns in men, which in fact suggests that male bisexuality does not exist (I personally think that the sample size was too small, however). Men can be categorized as gay or straight based on their physical reactions, which makes it unlikely that the disparity in the frequency of non-hetero women and non-hetero men, which is what you're discussing, is due entirely to social acceptance (no doubt some of it is, however).

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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:15:32 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 13:08:46 2011.

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There's nothing about about a dick to a straight man. No offense to homosexuals, but even the mere thought of something going up my butt repulses me in the pain that such an act would probably cause to me.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:17:20 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:58:33 2011.

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Meanwhile, thanks to artificial insemination, gays can have children without having sex.

Of course, but "artificial insemination" is not hereditary or evolutionary.

In modern society, homosexuals can still have straight sex (you've never heard of married people with children being on the down-low or coming out at a late age?).

Of course, but that has to do with society, not evolution. If there weren't societal reasons, those people were homosexual to begin with, but tried living a "normal" life, because that's what society expects. If it wasn't for societal expectations, they wouldn't have been "married" and lived that false life to begin with.




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Posted by AlM on Wed May 18 14:18:35 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:58:33 2011.

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I actually am acquainted with several gay men who have had children the old fashioned way. It just took them a while to realize they were gay.



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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:19:10 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 13:58:50 2011.

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It's NOT fact, it's a THEORY. There's no evidence that it's genetically influenced. Some people "think" that may be the case, and thus the THEORY put forth. It's not factual.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:19:36 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:09:56 2011.

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Please.

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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:20:05 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:11:11 2011.

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>>>>With nearly 7 billion strong that's clearly not the case.

Uh the WORLD population is almost 7 billion, not the world's "homosexuals". And homosexuals reproduce at only a small fraction of heterosexuals.


The point I was making is that homosexuality, as trait, is neither detrimental to the human species nor to the homosexuals themselves as a group apparently, as the trait is still going strong. In fact, in the former case quite the opposite may be true.

PLEASE explain that. Also please note, the two don't necessarily mean mutual exclusivity. It's a fact that white people reproduce LESS than darker skin people, but that doesn't mean it's mutually exclusive. Note that most white people reproduce less by CHOICE, and because of societal reasons, not necessarily physical reasons. Your evidence that "light skin people are less fertile" please. (emphasis added)

That was what I meant. But until that choice changes whites will dwindle, fast.

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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:22:03 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:12:03 2011.

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Yes. I was posting in response to GP's claim about reproductive success, and in fact, as a statistical predictor of fertility rates skin color is a very good one (especially important since whites reproduce now at sub-replacement rates).

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:23:27 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:19:10 2011.

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It clearly is (a fact that it is genetically influenced). Do you not understand the evidence I posted to you?

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 14:24:33 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:09:56 2011.

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There were NO documented strict homosexuals (except for maybe Elagabalus ). Roman culture did not look down on same sex attraction for a man. For them, it was not about the gender of the partner, it was about who was on top and who was on the bottom.

Historical evidence belies the strict biological separation of sexual attraction. It's far more complicated than most want to admit.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:27:35 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:01:02 2011.

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A theory is a statement (based on research) that ATTEMPTS to explain something. It doesn't necessarily mean it's "fact".
A FACT is a statement such as, "A tree begins as a seed".
The THEORY ATTEMPTS to explain something.

There is NO proof that a "gene" specifically causes homosexuality. There is nothing tangible that can be pointed to say, "Yes, this is the HOmosexual gene".

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:28:03 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:03:44 2011.

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Correct.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:28:51 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:04:43 2011.

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False. So you say society atrocities such as what happened in Germany in the 1930's, or currently in Taliban ruled areas is "based on nature"?

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