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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:49:35 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:20:40 2011.

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Of course, and I agree with everything that happened. I just find it curious that all along, the same people that were claiming "What uniform does he wear", "what army does he belong to", "when did Congress Declare war", and so forth all of a sudden turns to:

"he was taken in a military operation. There's no "outrage from Democrats" every time an enemy combatant is killed on the front lines."

Funny, how now all of a sudden they aren't "civilians"....

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 21:50:23 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:49:35 2011.

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Lefty double standard = awesome. Right?

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:55:41 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:49:35 2011.

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Most criminals don't wear military uniforms or represent a "state" either and they don't get a military tribunal either. I still agree with the argument and see Bin Hidin as nothing more than a criminal who volunteered for "death by cop." Did anyone recover his flag so we know what country it was that he was fronting for?

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:56:33 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 21:50:23 2011.

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Ah ... so he was flying an EU flag ... :)

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:19:19 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:55:41 2011.

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He doesn't need a "flag", as I am consistent, he is a war criminal. I am not the one being hypocritical. Your guys on the left are.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:28:23 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:19:19 2011.

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To be entitled to MILITARY prosecution, or Geneva convention, one has to be a soldier ... I think the argument is that situations like his have never been formally addressed. So I'm just leaving it as "criminal" until there's a formal definition ...

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:31:00 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:28:23 2011.

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hahahahaha and all this time the left has been whining about Gitmo detainees and the Geneva Conventions. Geez, you guys make 78RPM records look like LPs - the way you spin.....

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:36:07 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:31:00 2011.

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Well ... hate to break it to ya, but I'm not left ... I have my own opinions and don't need others to tell me what to think. But if you're going to CLAIM that they're military, then it only makes sense that military rules would then be applied. But leave it to conservatwods to insist on one small slice of reality and disclaim all the rest of it.

So ... for those who DID get a military trial, happy with the outcome? Most of them got off ...

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:40:40 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:36:07 2011.

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hate to break it to ya, but I'm not left ...

And I hate to break it to you, but to use the phrase you always use on me, "when you hang out with the turkeys, you can't help but look like one".....

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:43:47 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:36:07 2011.

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"So ... for those who DID get a military trial, happy with the outcome? Most of them got off ... "

Is this more of your leftist bullshit or do you have something remotely resembling proof?



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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:45:00 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:40:40 2011.

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Heh. I don't recall EVER saying that to anyone ... but DO go on ...

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:46:13 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:43:47 2011.

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Smaz can tell you about the outcome of civilian vs. military trials ... he has often. Oh yeah ... forgot ... you can't read.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:51:43 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:45:00 2011.

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Not in that phrase, but you know exactly what I mean.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 22:52:52 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:43:47 2011.

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I think he's trying to masquerade as a "righty".

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:54:25 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:51:43 2011.

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Actually? No.

But when I hear the same old tired right wing nonsense, I react to it just like you do for the other side. There's no middle ground anymore and since I don't buy right wing, I guess that puts me on the other side though I think just about everything I see here is batshit ...

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 22:55:44 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:40:40 2011.

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LOL, he's not left.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:06:54 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:46:13 2011.

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You made the claim - back it up!!!

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:06:59 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 22:52:52 2011.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:07:53 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 22:55:44 2011.

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And you're not right.

Whoop. :)

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:09:42 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:06:54 2011.

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Oh yeah ... drop everything and impress train dick. Heh.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:12:00 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:09:42 2011.

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Hey look, stupid - you made a claim. If you can't back it up - just admit it. It isn't like you have anything else to do, right - selskunk?

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:13:52 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:12:00 2011.

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And you're paying me HOW much to blow you? And I owe you WHAT? Nope ... already played that game enough times.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:17:59 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:13:52 2011.

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Since when do I have to pay you to blow me. You've been responding to virtually every single thing that I post.. You must want my attention really badly.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 23:18:29 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:09:42 2011.

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It went back and forth. I remember the righties here in 2004 or 2005 said that al Qaeda weren't eligible to benefit from the Geneva Convention because they weren't soldiers, didn't wear uniforms, not under a flag etc.

Then they changed it to they WERE soldiers to defend against trying them in civilian courts.

That brings us to now and I would say they are still soldiers.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 23:19:12 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:17:59 2011.

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He must be cut off for claiming that he's not on the left.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:21:18 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 23:19:12 2011.

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If I were him ..........the rest of my response deleted for the sake of decorum.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:40:07 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 23:18:29 2011.

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Gotta love them military flip flops. :)



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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 01:22:36 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 21:19:54 2011.

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Had Bin Laden been captured he should have faced a civilian trial. He did not deserve the honor of military justice.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:20:56 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 01:22:36 2011.

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IAWTP

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 5 06:16:29 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 01:22:36 2011.

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False.
If that is true, then you are one of the people that feel that this vermin should have been read his Miranda rights, and not killed on sight.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 06:43:43 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 5 06:16:29 2011.

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That's not what he said.

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Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 5 15:46:37 2011, in response to Re: If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 06:43:43 2011.

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That's OK ... right wingers have to rag on and change the subject to fit their one note samba ...

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