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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 1 20:50:25 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 20:30:19 2011.

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LOL! Yeah, that's what probably shows up at them now. You can add Cougars to that, hoping some unsuspecting 20-something year old rockers may wonder in.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Easy on Tue Mar 1 20:51:28 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by TonyG on Tue Mar 1 20:48:10 2011.

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Neither do black elitist republicans.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by TonyG on Tue Mar 1 20:52:01 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Tue Mar 1 20:51:28 2011.

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I don't think any "elitist" wants that element.



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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 20:56:01 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 20:28:16 2011.

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they are not afraid of black. they have a right to be afraid of hip-hip considering it's violent recent history.

Grover Washington Jr. playing at a club in Park Slope would not bother the residents.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 1 20:56:27 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by TonyG on Tue Mar 1 20:48:10 2011.

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Of course. But at least Blacks and other minorites know where they stand with Elitist Republicans. The problem with White Elitist Democrats is that they hypocritically pronounce how they are all for "the lowly Black man", and how they help the "lowly Black man", and all this tripe they profess, but when it comes down to it, they put on the smile to Minorities, use and exploit them, and then stab them in the back when they aren't looking.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Easy on Tue Mar 1 21:04:38 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 20:56:01 2011.

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Then why whenever I go to an opening weekend of a "black" movie are there a half dozen police cars in the parking lot instead of the normal one? Now that the Del Amo Mall attracts mostly black teenagers on Saturday nights why are there several police cars and a visible police presence instead of one parked car and no visible police?

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 21:22:05 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Tue Mar 1 21:04:38 2011.

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When I attended Lesnar vs. Carwin, there was a police presence at Hooters. I was not offended. Others would be because they live to be offended and find racism in everything.



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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 21:56:23 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 1 20:37:36 2011.

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Indeed.

Live acts are where artists can still keep most of the money they work for.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 21:58:08 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Mar 1 20:46:30 2011.

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SMAZ pats himself on the back.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 22:03:25 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by TonyG on Tue Mar 1 20:47:29 2011.

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They move to NY because they wanna be like Sarah Jessica Parker.

They don't know what it means to be a real NYer.
They are pissed because they cannot afford Manhattan. They have no clue about people from Sunnyside, Jackson Heights, Elmhurst, Brighton Beach, Staten Island, etc.
They are scared of them.

I shit on these people.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 1 22:17:19 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 22:47:03 2011.

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Light commercial...not for clubs.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JohnnyMints on Tue Mar 1 22:33:48 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 20:56:01 2011.

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Grover Washington Jr. playing at a club in Park Slope would not bother the residents.

Another one who went way too soon.
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(RIP Grover, 12 Dec 1943-17 Dec 1999.)



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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 1 22:42:04 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 21:56:23 2011.

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Correct. But the catch is they have to "make it" before they will have enough of a following to really make "money" in the music business anymore, as otherwise no one is going to see them either.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 1 22:45:47 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 20:56:01 2011.

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Lessee...

The boss is black and I listen to him.*
The cop who pulled me over and gave me a warning for speeding is puerto rican
The guy 3 doors down is from Trinidad and I toss horseshoes with him

But I say I don't want a hip-hop club a block away from me and you're calling me the KKK Grand Dragon?

your pal,
Fred

*boss = client but you catch my drift.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 01:32:23 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 20:48:38 2011.

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See my thoughts on that in the guido posts

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 01:39:47 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 1 20:50:25 2011.

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hoping some unsuspecting 20-something year old rockers may wonder in.

hehe. We all know the type.
Especially when the she takes him to her house to show him her vintage 80's Van Halen, Quiet Riot and ummm.... John "Cougar" Mellencamp record collection.



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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 01:42:28 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 01:32:23 2011.

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Today's guidos are Albanians and Russians. There are no Italian Guidos.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 01:55:29 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Tue Mar 1 20:50:24 2011.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Mar 2 02:10:39 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 21:58:08 2011.

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Good for SMAZ.

Does SMAZ want a cookie?

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by TonyG on Wed Mar 2 02:11:43 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 01:39:47 2011.

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That would be heaven. I'm 25 and I am obsessed with the 80s.

Maybe I need to start hanging out at these types of places :).

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 02:28:56 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Mar 2 02:10:39 2011.

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Does SMAZ want a cookie?

Nahhh I get several everytime I get onto SubChat and so do you. It's our reward.





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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by TonyG on Wed Mar 2 02:29:55 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 2 02:28:56 2011.

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It doesn't have much flavor though.

Obviously, this site didn't buy them from the Girl Scouts.

MMM...what I would do for a Peanut Butter Patty.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 09:42:34 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 1 20:56:27 2011.

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Exactly.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 09:44:08 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 22:03:25 2011.

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Haha you're a smart, good dude.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 10:09:25 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 09:44:08 2011.

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Fears of problems with the opening of a hip-hop club are not unfounded.

Do I need to go over the violent and recent history of hip-hip. Nah. When faced with facts, you'll ignore.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Mar 2 13:01:39 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:48:48 2011.

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Yup. Remember that incident in Rhode Island where people were trampled to death during a fire?

How can we forget; there's an article about it in today's Providence Journal!

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 13:25:26 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:21:45 2011.

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If a club catering to the Metallica, GWAR, Megadeath crowd were coming to that area, the people would not be too happy.

Somehow when I think of NYC, I don't think hard rock/heavy metal. I don't know why...

And fuck that shit with political correctness. Let's be honest with ourselves. The hip hop community has a terrible rep and it's well-deserved. Guys write songs about shooting people and laugh about it. Almost every artist has to carry a gun because they are at risk of being shot by a rival for a diss. That attitude extends to the listeners.

Unfortunately true. But it's not just the Hip-Hop culture though. Have you seen Jamaica lately? See the Jamaican documentary Made in Jamaica for an idea...

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 13:39:42 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 10:36:10 2011.

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First of all, "hoops and hip-hip crowd" is not a quote from a resident. No one is on record as saying that.

You're right. I looked it up. Couldn't find any other reference.

And even if someone is, it's the music genre not skin color they are concerned with.

I'm not so sure about that...

Secondly, such projects always meet opposition. Look at the Islanders. They want to build a new arena with an apartment building complex, entertainment center, and other features. But wait, hockey is for white people! How can there be opposition? Makes no sense, unless you live in the real world like I do.

No doubt. No one wants anything big, busy and boisterous in a residential neighborhood. I can understand that.

Third point: Hip-hop in NYC means more than black. Seems like many people dress hip-hop a call each other "Nigga".

Most of them are black though... And most of the rest are brown....

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 13:40:10 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Mar 1 14:09:59 2011.

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Fair enough.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by TonyG on Wed Mar 2 14:03:34 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 13:39:42 2011.

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Most of them are black though... And most of the rest are brown....

Maybe the older ones. I know a lot of hip-hop fans who are white teenagers.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 2 14:37:08 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 13:39:42 2011.

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The Islanders arena is not in a residential area.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Mar 2 14:52:47 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 10:36:10 2011.

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But that's different because the Islanders would have been there first---not the residents. The Islanders are currently in the middle of nowhere with their arena around Mitchel Field.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Mar 2 14:53:42 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 1 20:10:34 2011.

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I'm going to slap you for dissing Sarah MacLachlan.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 2 14:54:52 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Mar 2 14:52:47 2011.

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The residents were there before the planned "Lighthouse" development as they're there now and the Lighthouse isn't.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 15:11:35 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 13:39:42 2011.

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I'm not so sure about that...

Because that's your view of the world. Wrong but politically correct.

I told you that when I saw Lesnar vs.Carwin UFC at Hooters, they had police there. Yup. An event at a well-known chain attended mostly by white people like me, had to have a police presence. If the clientele was black and there were police, people like Osmosis Jones would cry racism and say that police would not be there for a largely white audience.



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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 15:13:49 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by TonyG on Wed Mar 2 14:03:34 2011.

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I know. But I'm not sure the absolute numbers of white hip-hop fans are white -- and even then, how many of them live the "lifestyle"?

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 15:16:07 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 15:11:35 2011.

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Because that's your view of the world. Wrong but politically correct.

Have you been following my posts? Especially some of my recent ones? And you accuse me of being politically correct?

I told you that when I saw Lesnar vs.Carwin UFC at Hooters, they had police there.

That'll do it... who won anyway?

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 15:17:16 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 15:11:35 2011.

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Because that's your view of the world. Wrong but politically correct.

Have you been following my posts? Especially some of my recent ones? And you accuse me of being politically correct?

I told you that when I saw Lesnar vs.Carwin UFC at Hooters, they had police there.

That'll do it... who won anyway?

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 15:33:37 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 15:16:07 2011.

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Lesnar.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 15:33:49 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by JayMan on Wed Mar 2 15:13:49 2011.

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Take a look at who buys the music & who goes to concerts? Why do you think rappers don't wear their clothes tighter anymore? Because the execs realized that white people are the ones that are actually financially supporting the rappers now & wanted the rappers to relate to that demographic more.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 15:34:22 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 15:33:49 2011.

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Should have pressed preview, meant to say why they don't wear their clothes baggy anymore.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 15:38:32 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 10:36:10 2011.

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First of all, "hoops and hip-hip crowd" is not a quote from a resident.

Then either whoever said it is simply pussy & didn't want their name to be in the article, or a lot of people said it & none of them didn't want to take individual blame for saying it.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:28:39 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 1 10:36:10 2011.

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Secondly, such projects always meet opposition. Look at the Islanders. They want to build a new arena with an apartment building complex, entertainment center, and other features. But wait, hockey is for white people! How can there be opposition? Makes no sense, unless you live in the real world like I do.

Apples and oranges. The project was opposed because of it's huge size, and in a suburban area, not because it attracts "hockey fans". The hockey fans already go there to the old Coliseum.


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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:31:02 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 2 14:37:08 2011.

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It's somewhat industrial there, yes, but it's still a suburban area, not urban. The project proposed would be way out of scale and urban for the location, and all the traffic, etc it would add.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 16:33:49 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:28:39 2011.

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But, but, but, they're still white people. And there was opposition. So it goes to show you that even white people meet opposition too.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:56:17 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Mar 2 14:52:47 2011.

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??????

The Nassau Colosseum was there, bot the HUGE project that is planned there. The Islanders have nothing to do with this, even though Luch tried to bring in a dissimilar parallel. The controversy wasn't against the Islanders, the controversy was over the HUGE project that was to be built on the site, which was NOT there before the residents.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:56:36 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Mar 2 14:52:47 2011.

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??????

The Nassau Colosseum was there, but not the HUGE project that is planned there. The Islanders have nothing to do with this, even though Luch tried to bring in a dissimilar parallel. The controversy wasn't against the Islanders, the controversy was over the HUGE project that was to be built on the site, which was NOT there before the residents.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 17:00:11 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:56:17 2011.

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My example highlights that not only do hip-hop clubs meet opposition, but many many other projects too. It's only people like Osmosis Jones who have to attach race to it.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 2 17:25:09 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 16:31:02 2011.

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That doesn't really count. There are plenty of cases of "mega-developments" in otherwise "suburban" areas.

Not that I have an opinion one way or another about it.

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Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 2 17:28:52 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 2 16:33:49 2011.

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???? The opposition had nothing to do with the Islanders, it had to do with the size of the project.

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