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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:29:14 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:11:14 2010.

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I don't get the comparison either. One has nothing to do with the other.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:29:57 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:15:46 2010.

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LOL. Office Attacks? Neo Nazis? LMAO.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:33:02 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:18:00 2010.

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Timothy McVeigh didn't act in the name of any fanatical religion. He was an anti-government nut that did it as revenge for Waco, and for other anti-government reasons, none of which had anything to do with religion.
The ISLAMIC muslim terrorists that killed in the name of their religionm it wasn't a coincidence that they were 'Muslim", they did it because they WERE fundamentalist Muslims, Timothy McVeigh on the other hand killed, he just happened to be "a Christian", he didn't do it in the name of Christianity

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 21:34:17 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:36:52 2010.

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Olog is not in Amish country. He's a two hour drive, maybe more, from the Amish.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:34:32 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:23:57 2010.

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The 19 in 911 weren't "individuals", they were acting in line with a religious group operating out of Afghanistan and other countries in that region. McVeigh on the other hand was an individual.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 21:35:55 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:36:42 2010.

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Which Type Of American has been more SUCCESSFUL in hurting other Americans?

What's your point? We're talking about the threat of Islamic terrorism.


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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:36:24 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:30:45 2010.

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I am sure most are, but no other group is trying to kill us en mass. Then it's up to the "Majority" of the "good" Muslims to control the leadership. Comparing them to a few Amish people is absurd. When is the last time there was a plot by the Amish to blow up Times Square?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:36:59 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:27:53 2010.

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How do you know for sure? I'll bet George Matesky was Catholic. :)

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:37:39 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:36:52 2010.

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Oh please, I can't stop lauging, The Amish? Throwing that into this thread does nothing to further your point, it just makes it more laughable to compare them to what is currently going on with Muslims.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:38:51 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:28:53 2010.

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Also its not Homegrown Muslim cells that are committing the majority of terrorist plots, its those far away in Pakistan / Afghanistan etc that plan these attacks and the # of Muslims who leave America to join these causes is quite small.

The point? Who is saying it's all homegrown?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:39:23 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:32:37 2010.

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People have already forgotten about the Times Square attempted bombing, it's unreal.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:40:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:40:01 2010.

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Thats because "back in the day", people like him weren't doing it in the name of religion. HE DID.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:41:55 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:02:46 2010.

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Who's prohibiting the exercise of religion?


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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:42:56 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:04:09 2010.

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I am afraid it's you who is "gullible and stupid" in reference to this.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:43:35 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 21:34:17 2010.

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I wouldn't get too detailed with the location of the secret Batcave ... he might have to kill you. :)

Well ... around here, they're our neighbors and the rumspringa happens. No biggie.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:43:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:04:40 2010.

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Incorrect.

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Re: Must See Video(Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied)

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 5 21:48:28 2010, in response to Must See Video(Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:23:29 2010.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:49:49 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:34:32 2010.

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I give up ... well ... just round 'em all up, send them to death camps and pay the bill later.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:51:04 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:36:24 2010.

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Any particular brand of oven we should buy for those camps? And should we buy smaller ones for the children? :(

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 21:51:35 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:39:23 2010.

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People have already forgotten about the Times Square attempted bombing, it's unreal.

Because Muslim terrorism is so common, it's as easy to forget about as last Monday's weather. Especially when the plot fails.

Meanwhile, ABC News did a story about the "threat" of white supremacist groups in America. The point of the story is that some white guys got out of prison and tried to rob an undercover agent who they thought was a drug dealer.



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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 5 21:52:09 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:42:56 2010.

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No he's not. He actually educates himself on these matters instead of watching Foxnews or listening to Hate Radio.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:53:40 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:49:49 2010.

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He even remotely hinted at that?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:54:57 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:43:35 2010.

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Good for them. When they strap bombs into their buggies and leave them in the middle of Times Square, I will take a second look at "rumspringa".

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:56:07 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 5 21:52:09 2010.

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I never listen talk radio, and if I have seen fox news once in the last month, that would be a lot.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:56:43 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:37:39 2010.

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Sorry to say, you've moved way past the ability of absurdity to try to demonstrate a point to you. So, substitute "Muslim" for "Jew" and practice your goose step then ... you're playing the same game now. You're advocating "collective punishment" and that's VERY wrong. :(

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 21:57:11 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:33:02 2010.

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It doesn't matter.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 21:57:41 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:41:55 2010.

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No one, but you'd apparently like to.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:57:48 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:40:37 2010.

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I can understand Luch getting all worked up like this. I'm a bit disappointed that you're buying into it like that.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:58:20 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:56:43 2010.

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I can't substitute "Jew" there, as they aren't the ones trying to set off bombs on us.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:59:39 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:54:57 2010.

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Most of the bombs that went off in Manhattan over the years were planted by bored white kids and a few Puerto Ricans. Should we round those up too?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 21:59:59 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:37:39 2010.

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Remember the dangerous Hutaree? The MSM come up with these stories to offset the disproportionate involvement Muslims in terrorism.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:01:59 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:59:39 2010.

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The "bored white kids" and "a few Puerto Ricans" that may have done this didn't do it because they were "white kids" or because they were "Puerto Ricans". I have never heard of some Puerto Rican plot to blow up the subway.
On the other hand, Fanatical Muslims have done it, and continue to do it BECAUSE they are Muslim, not because it's a coincidence that they are Muslim.

And WHO suggested (besides you in multiple posts now) to "round them up"?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 5 22:02:07 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ntrainride on Thu Aug 5 20:53:00 2010.

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But responding in the guise of being morally superior or whatever it is just doesn't impress these terroists.

I agree in general. The moral high ground should be done from a position of Victory. That is the bad guys must be destroyed.

However there are certain core American values that should never be sacrificed. That's not merely the "moral high ground". That's the essence of America.
People say they attacked us because of our freedoms. So are we going to hand them victory by forfeiting those freedoms?

A distinction must be made between the bad guys (who need to be pulverized) and ordinary people.

We didn't throw away our freedoms when SOME Italians, Russians and Jews were violent anarchists setting off bombs all over the place 80-100 years ago.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:02:19 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:42:56 2010.

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Wrong.

It's just sad that any person who considers themselves intelligent could really believe that we were attacked "for our freedoms." SMH

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 22:02:39 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:57:48 2010.

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I can understand Luch getting all worked up like this

Thanks. But I never get worked up. In fact, find one post where I insult Muslims or say anything bad about them.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:03:24 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:40:37 2010.

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Fine, then let's abolish religion if you hate it so much.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 22:04:19 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:53:40 2010.

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That's where this whole discussion is going ... we already have law enforcement and spooks whose job is to spot the crazies and take them down. But that's apparently not good enough. All I'm seeing here is "round up the Muslims, they're ALL terrorists." Crap like this went around in Germany in the 1930's too with a different group. I don't like what I'm hearing because of it.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:04:28 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 22:02:39 2010.

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Not to mention, no one is "worked up" here. This is a discussion, not brain surgery.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 22:04:42 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:01:59 2010.

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He's talking about Weather Underground and FALN.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:04:45 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:01:59 2010.

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I have never heard of some Puerto Rican plot to blow up the subway.

LOL! You'll faln for anything.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:05:41 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 22:04:19 2010.

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Good post.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 22:07:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:58:20 2010.

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Keep clutching that thought ... :(

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 22:07:46 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:36:24 2010.

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If you look at Terrorists, they're usually young, poor, not very smart, sorta like those who make up a majority of gangs, and just like how in gangs an older person leads them into the gang with promise of money and power, radical imams promise them heaven etc etc. It's a bunch of young idiots who make up a majority of these terrorists and suicide bombers. What needs to happen is that education, and economic opportunities need to be present to produce an alternative to those who use the lost youth.

Look at Indonesia for example, 200 million Muslims, and one of the most westernized nations in the world, very peaceful, part of the G-20, and ASEAN, apart of the WTO. So let's be real about Muslims and Islam in general. If you produce a country where its economically stable, where education is important, where theres very little poverty then terrorism will whittle down considerably.

Look at the countries where Terrorism is for the most part comings from... Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, (Iran) for the most part, dirt poor countries, high illiteracy rates, high poverty rates, so its ripe for terrorists who are the only ones who offer schools (tho they preach radical islam) food etc. Gangs and Terrorists aren't really much different from each other if you think about it, especially in what allows Terrorists and Gangs to thrive in poor areas.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:08:00 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:03:24 2010.

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LOL. I didn't say that, but fine.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:08:44 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 22:04:19 2010.

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NO, that conversation is only going that way by people on the other side assuming that's what the opposition wants! YOU are the one that came up with that....not me.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 22:08:48 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 22:02:39 2010.

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Heh. And they accuse me of stating something and backtracking ... OK, have fun kids ...

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:09:13 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:05:41 2010.

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He's gone hysterical.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:09:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 22:04:42 2010.

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Never heard of them.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 22:10:21 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:04:45 2010.

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Tell that to Selkirk, he's the one that came up with that absurdity.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 22:10:24 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 22:07:46 2010.

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BS

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