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Must See Video(Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:23:29 2010, in response to Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 3 10:16:21 2010.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:24:30 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:17:33 2010.

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So you're saying we can't be critical of our nation and it's wrong to hold it to its standards? I thought being un American was not upholding its values... we're upholding them by trying to point out that not supporting this we're showing we're not better than the terrorists make us out to be. We do apologize for being critical, we'll just nod along with the rest of the majority next time :)

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:29:03 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:24:30 2010.

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You can't compare Islamic states to the US. If you think they're so great, LEAVE!



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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:31:57 2010, in response to Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Aug 3 10:16:21 2010.

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14 Somalis. I'm not even going to link any of the stories.

More Muslims planning terrorism against Americans. It's not even news anymore. It is as predictable as saying, "Late afternoon thunderstorms in Tampa and Orlando".

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 18:39:09 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 5 03:31:03 2010.

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Yes it is coincidental.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 18:39:24 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:17:33 2010.

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If I didn't LOVE America, I wouldn't give a shit and I'd be there with the rest of the morons cheering on this hypocrisy. Should I become a hater like you and the rest of the doom-cheering squad? Sorry guy ... when I find something fucked up, I want it fixed.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 5 18:42:39 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 18:39:09 2010.

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proff?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 18:42:49 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 18:08:16 2010.

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How is this a pretend Catholic Country?
There is no official religion here, those "pretend" Muslim Countries DO have an official religion, their "pretend" Muslim Religion.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:44:59 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 18:39:24 2010.

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I am not a hater.

The growing Muslim population can't be good for America. It's going to result in far more terrorism and lives lost.



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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:45:11 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:29:03 2010.

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It's easy when we have people like you who are the same as those across the ocean who are intolerant of other religions...

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 18:45:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 18:39:24 2010.

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when I find something fucked up, I want it fixed.

Well, the Obama White House would be a nice place to start...

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:48:41 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:45:11 2010.

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Did you watch the video?

Have you noticed the trend of MUSLIM terrorist plots in this country?

I bet you won't read about the 14 Somalis. It's totally possible to be born in this country, and not be an American.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:49:27 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:45:11 2010.

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btw- Are you a Muslim, or a pseudo-intellectual who just likes to argue?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 18:58:59 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 18:42:49 2010.

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The American Catholic church is frowned upon by the Vatican and many other Caatholics elsewhere. Sorta for the same reasons why Israel gladly accepts American Jews for their contributions, but puts up roadblocks to keep them over here when it comes to moving in over there. American Catholics are seen as "too liberal" and not properly following the doctrine. As to what Newkirk said, if you really understand the Qu'ran, then you'd know that the radicals are violating most of it. Suffice it to say though that American Catholics are seen as following the "chocolate version." But then I s'pose nobody wants to hear any of this, so I've said my piece and I'm done.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 5 18:59:50 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 18:45:37 2010.

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He got it backwards. He likes fixing what isn't broken.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:59:57 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:44:59 2010.

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Lets see since 2000...

6000+ people have died in gang violence...
Countless people have died in Office Shootings and School Shootings...

Let's look at terrorist attacks before 9/11

The Wall Street Bombing that killed 38 people and wounded 300
The "Mad Bomber" That Placed over 30 bombs throughout NYC...
Numerous Attacks by White Supremacists (including the KKK)

Lets get even more recent...Oklahoma City...

These are all terrorist acts... you need to realize and stop being short sighted in your definition of Terrorists... Terrorists come in all colors, shapes, religions and races. So based on this... are white Christian Evangelical not good for America? Is the growing number of office workers not good for America? It's going to result in more office attacks and lives lost....

I look forward to your answers...

The fact of the matter is, that instead of squabbling about this MINOR issue, you should be focused on issues regarding port security, border security, legislation that would toughen criminal charges against those forging IDs that would allow terrorists into the nation or development of an ID system that would make it difficult for any terrorist to get into this nation, but hey look at the pretty bird while the real issues get ignored.



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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:00:52 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 5 18:42:39 2010.

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You were the one who made the baseless assertion that the common law is based on Mosaic law.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 5 19:00:55 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 18:42:49 2010.

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How is this a pretend Catholic Country?

He got it wrong again. He meant to say that this country has pretend Catholics like Pelosi and Biden . . .

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:01:26 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:48:41 2010.

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Yep, and I counter with the Oklahoma City bombing, Columbine, the Virginia Tech, where people died, and none of them were Muslim. NEXT!

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:01:55 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:44:59 2010.

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There's plenty of Muslims around here and not one single "incident" ... hmmm.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:02:46 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 07:53:32 2010.

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So it's alright that they want to bring Islamic Law to the United States.

"Congress shall make no law. . .prohibiting the exercise [of religion]. . ."

Ever heard of that?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:03:31 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 18:49:27 2010.

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No I'm a Christian and I believe in being better than those who are your enemy. When you go down to your enemies level, you are no better than your enemy. I'd rather have the moral high ground.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:04:09 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 07:54:23 2010.

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It absolutely is. It's just bullshit. "They hate our freedoms," LOL! That really is what they're all worked up about. People really suicide bomb to stop someone else's freedom.

You people are so gullible and stupid.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:04:40 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 07:56:06 2010.

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Which is STILL FALSE!

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:05:46 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 08:26:17 2010.

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Right, but it wouldn't be the loss of "our freedoms" that they would notice.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:06:47 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:01:55 2010.

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According to Luch 14 people out of a population of 2.5 million Muslims means that all Muslims are going to hurt us... even though that 14 makes up .0000056 of the population. OMG .0000056 PANICCCCCC!!!!!!!

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:08:56 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 18:45:37 2010.

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2012 ... I'm not too happy with our ball-less leader either, but obviously for different reasons than you guys. Meanwhile, there's a more immediate service appointment coming up in three months which cn be dealt with soon. Then ... onto the next.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:09:05 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ntrainride on Thu Aug 5 09:42:52 2010.

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They bought the property, ergo they've earned the right. That's all there is to it.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 5 19:11:00 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Aug 5 12:29:04 2010.

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Just because they were bad Muslims doesn't mean they weren't.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:11:14 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:01:26 2010.

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So the answer to the Oklahoma City bombing is to let more Muslim into America to have their turn at killing innocent people?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:14:49 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:06:47 2010.

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There's dangerous people in every "group." Perhaps we should just lock *everybody* up ... for safety. Ya never know when one of those Amish is gonna go off. :-\

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:15:46 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:11:14 2010.

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By your def then we should stop letting there be Caucasians in this country because they commit the majority of Office Attacks and an ever increasing number of Neo-Nazis.

Can you prove that ALL Muslims that come into this nation are here to hurt us? CAN YOU?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:18:00 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:14:49 2010.

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Muslims are a very small percentage of the US population, yet they have been behind the biggest terrorist plots in US history.

Just because Timothy McVeigh was a white Christian, we still must remember who is responsible for most plots today.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:23:57 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:18:00 2010.

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Yes ... and you know what you should remember? INDIVIDUAL DID IT. It was not the entire assembled horded of all Muslims. Get that straight, and we can talk.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:24:44 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:15:46 2010.

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Office attacks? Did you see who did the most recent one? Seriously.

Neo-Nazis? Have they killed even 100 people in a single year?

If we keep allowing more Muslims into this country, I don't see how we can benefit as a nation, or how we will avoid another attack?



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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:26:29 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:23:57 2010.

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McVeigh worked with another person. Therefore, it was a conspiracy.

The growing Muslim population can't be good for America.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:28:53 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:18:00 2010.

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What type of American has been more successful since 9/11 in hurting other Americans?

Also its not Homegrown Muslim cells that are committing the majority of terrorist plots, its those far away in Pakistan / Afghanistan etc that plan these attacks and the # of Muslims who leave America to join these causes is quite small.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:30:45 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:26:29 2010.

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Why not? Do you have a problem with Hindi? How about Wiccans? I'm sure Olog will tell you that they worship Satan or some shit - now THAT's gotta be dangerous. :)

My assertion is that there's plenty of nutballs in any group. Have you ever seen what Amish kids are capable of during their "wilding" period? Should we lock all of them up too? You deal with dangerous individuals ... you do NOT condemn an entire group for the actions of a small minority. Most Muslims are very cool and honorable people.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:32:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:28:53 2010.

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Wow. You don't even read the news. You just read Chat.

The Somalis arrested today were mostly US-born.

The Times Square bomber was an American citizen.


You can't look at the number of Muslims involved in terrorism. You have to look at the number of Americans they want to kill.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:34:55 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:28:53 2010.

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There are some right here who are second and third generation American citizens who are bad eggs who have been radicalized specifically from all this bullshit we're reading here on OTchat. They weren't our enemy before, but we're convincing them that they should be by our actions. That doesn't take away though from the vast majority who haven't been corrupted and feel just as American as they always have. Nutballs exist everywhere. But this nonsense is only going to convince more of them that we really ARE after them and they'd better be ready for a rumble. :(

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:35:18 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:30:45 2010.

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The Amish? Everyone is laughing at you Selkirk.

I'm not concerned with the percentage of Muslim terrorists vs. the total Muslim population. I'm concerned with the American lives they want to take.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 19:36:42 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:32:37 2010.

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Since you can't read let me repeat the question:

Which Type Of American has been more SUCCESSFUL in hurting other Americans?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:36:48 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:34:55 2010.

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Did you hear about Maj. Hasan?

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:36:52 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:35:18 2010.

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They can laugh all they want ... Olog is in Amish country ... betcha he's read about it if not seen it himself. Granted, it's largely non-violent, but the Amish can kick shit up too during that period of time prior to committing ...

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 19:40:01 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 5 19:36:48 2010.

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Yeah ... back in the day, he would have just been chalked up as "shell shock" and not "Muslim."

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Aug 5 20:53:00 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SMAZ on Wed Aug 4 22:45:33 2010.

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But responding in the guise of being morally superior or whatever it is just doesn't impress these terroists. That's who the enemy is, not some finger-waving "friendly" nation granting us the boon of their "moral judgement". Fuck rhem; most of the world, friend or foe wants to see us get a lickin'. So, at certain times we HAVE to tell 'em to suck eggs.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:13:26 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 18:58:59 2010.

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That's wonderful, but we still don't have a national religion. And I have news for you, the most European churches are way more liberal than American churches, this is still a very conservative country.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:18:37 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:13:26 2010.

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That may be ... also, I haven't seen any bills introduced in congrefs to make us a Muslim country either, so what's all the hubbub, bub? :)

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:26:19 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 5 18:59:57 2010.

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NOne of these have the slightest to do with Islamic terrorism.

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Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 5 21:27:53 2010, in response to Re: Landmarking of 45-47 Park Place denied, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 5 21:18:37 2010.

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We don't have any "pretend" Catholics coming to this country blowing themselves and us up.

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