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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 14:35:29 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 10:48:32 2010. The fact that Obama is an affirmative action beneficiary is not saying all blacks are when they achieve success. In Obama's case, Percy Sutton really opened eyes though. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 14:35:43 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 3 11:49:41 2010. I think the Bradley Effect played a role. Cacusus-goers didn't want to not vote for Obama for fear of being unable to justify their choice. In primaries with secret ballots, Hillary often did better. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 14:35:51 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 12:29:22 2010. Not the Democratic base, no. But it is certainly why we didn't have Hillary as the candidate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 14:36:08 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 11:56:48 2010. Obama promised change that I didn't believe in. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 14:37:22 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 12:33:58 2010. Correct. But that's not what I am talking about. Obama's approval rating slipped, (and that includes Democrats that voted for him), but The Black approval of Obama is the same as it was in 2008. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 14:39:28 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 12:39:02 2010. Rightists can only be partisan, and could never vote for any non-Republican.Correct. That is also true. Face it, given a choice between Obama and McCain, Obama was better. I don't agree with that. While I also didn't like McCain, I did say it was the lesser of two evils election. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 14:40:50 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 11:56:48 2010. Change was simply getting rid of the GOP. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 14:41:52 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 14:39:28 2010. I don't agree with that. While I also didn't like McCain, I did say it was the lesser of two evils election.I'm sorry. I meant that more people thought that Obama was better (although I believe that Obama was better). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 14:42:16 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 12:33:58 2010. Yes. Blacks vote as a block. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 3 14:48:08 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 11:56:48 2010. She is a FIGHTER! Something Obama doesn't beliieve in. If you are being mugged and raped, you FIGHT, not TRY TO unite. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Jul 3 14:56:49 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 14:33:14 2010. Actually, I don't care either way. I just care about killer being caught and convicted. If they happen use lethal force (within police guidlines), then it is what it is. The difference is that I think ALL suspected of wrongdoing should be held accountable for their actions. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 15:06:05 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by WayneJay on Sat Jul 3 14:56:49 2010. Police guidelines. Two cops were killed in cold blood and you're worried about guidelines. Typical of someone like you. |
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Posted by David Fairthorne on Sat Jul 3 15:27:00 2010, in response to Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a "War of Obama's Choosing", posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 2 16:26:48 2010. The Afghan war was a war of George W. Bush's choosing, with the approval of Congress, where the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists resolution was adopted almost unanimously.However Michael Steele also said that the Afghan war is unwinnable. I think he was right, given that the concept of "victory" has become so nebulous. Effectively the Afghan war was lost at Tora Bora in December 2001, when the US failed in its original purpose to capture Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda leadership. It's hard to see what if anything has been gained by continuing the occupation. Afghanistan continues to be a potential safe haven for terrorists because it has plenty of room for them to hide. Besides, Al Qaeda terrorists are dispersed across numerous countries including the USA. The purpose of "Operation Enduring Freedom" in Afghanistan has somehow changed from counter-terrorism to counter-insurgency to nation building. Can America really afford to build a new nation in such a remote part of the world? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 3 16:05:32 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 15:06:05 2010. Meanwhile, they're the same type that complain about soldiers dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 3 16:09:05 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by David Fairthorne on Sat Jul 3 15:27:00 2010. Effectively the Afghan war was lost at Tora Bora in December 2001, when the US failed in its original purpose to capture Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda leadershipThey were already in Iran long before the US went into Afghanistan. Fear of Iran seems to be pathological in both major parties. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 3 16:14:28 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jul 3 08:36:58 2010. What's all this about Obama being admitted to Columbia because of affirmative action? The only 2008 presidential candidate that was admitted to an institution of higher learning thanks to affirmative action was John McCain's legacy admission to the Naval Acadamy aka "affirmaive action for the dim spawn of the well-connected" just like with the GOP's 2000 and 2004 presidential candidate. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 3 16:20:06 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by trainsarefun on Sat Jul 3 10:49:54 2010. Mind you, affirmative action gave President Obama admittance.PROFF? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 16:22:32 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 3 16:14:28 2010. Didn't you see Percy Sutton on NY1?It would be nice to see Obama's grades. Why not? We saw Bush's grades. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 3 17:03:15 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 01:58:47 2010. Mr.Mabstoa (Freddy Perez in real life) is a nice guy. He and his wife visited Baltimore and the Streetcar Museum a few years ago. I was there and gave both the "Cooks Tour" plus Freddy got to operate a couple of cars. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:08:51 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 16:22:32 2010. Will you either say something or stop making vague allusions to Percy Sutton? No one knows wtf you're talking about. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:17:10 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 14:35:29 2010. Essentially it is the same thing. In that survey about the best President's they have Obama rated as the 12th smartest President in history (or somewhere around there) yet trainsarefun and GP38 Chris, absent any proff whatsoever, are stating that there is no question that Obama benefited from affirmative action in getting admitted to Harvard and Columbia. They consider it impossible that Obama could have scored a high SAT or made excellent grades. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 3 17:29:03 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 00:38:10 2010. Michael Steele was Bobby Erlich's Lt. Gov in his only term. He dumped him when he ran for a second term for white woman who happened to be blind and lost to Martin O'Malley. Maybe he knew something. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:37:18 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 14:42:16 2010. Which is important. If the black vote was split 60-40 for one party or the other the black vote would be insignificant. The way it stands now Democrats are beholden to blacks. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 17:38:18 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 3 12:30:25 2010. He could do no wrong when he was running, the media gave him a free pass, because that's what "the country" wanted, the first "Black President". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 17:40:59 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:37:18 2010. You mean the Democrats USE Blacks (and other minorities). |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:41:53 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 17:40:59 2010. No, that's not what I mean. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 17:43:36 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 3 14:48:08 2010. I do agree with that. I don't agree with a lot of what Hillary professes, however, I really gained a great respect for her near the end of that catfight of a Democratic primary that year. She showed real leadership skills, and and also a willingness to fight for what she wants. Obama holds neither of those characteristics. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 18:51:11 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:08:51 2010. I'm not being vague. I have posted the NY1 interview many times. Everyone knows about it. That's not being vague. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 18:55:43 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:17:10 2010. Dude. He called the army "corpsemen". Imagine if Palin made such a gaffe.Percy Sutton talked about how Obama was admitted, during a NY1 interview. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 3 19:56:07 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 18:55:43 2010. What's worse, "corpsemen" or "nukular"? There's also "divissive" and "derissive" . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 3 20:06:58 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 17:38:18 2010. because that's what "the country" wanted, the first "Black President"They weren't satisfied with Clinton? As for Obama, the liberal media still calls him "our first female president" rather than the "first black president" (first time was by Newsweek back in February 2008). |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 20:08:12 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 3 19:56:07 2010. Not sure. Nukular is used by many that are uneducated. I've never heard anyone else say corpseman, but at least he's not saying it over and over along with other Democrats starting to say it in an attempt to make it seem correct. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 20:31:21 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 2 19:38:32 2010. Not hardly even. I'm up 2-zip. This president is going to go down in history as a bigger fu@%ing moron then jimmy earl. Why is he so worried about immigration when the economy is swirling around the bowl? He can't seem to prioritize necessity over idiology. THe term schmuck seems to fit him so well. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 20:35:18 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by WillD on Sat Jul 3 00:17:08 2010. No! Some voted party. Some voted idiology. Some voted pigmentation. I suspect that a majority of the voters in the first and third catagories wish they could take their vote back. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 20:38:31 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 20:31:21 2010. Perhaps it's because of those "party of no" types in congrefs who have never voted in favor of fixing the economy? Perhaps you're just used to a President who can barely keep up with one thing at a time. That said, I'll agree that immigration isn't important - particularly in the southwest. Obama needs to concentrate on more tax incentives for BP. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 20:39:34 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 20:38:31 2010. "No" to what? |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Jul 3 20:40:21 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 15:06:05 2010. Yes, guidelines. They're in place for good reason. You seem to believe a police officer's life is more valuable than everyone elses. If that's you position, then fine for you. However, I believe all people lives are equal and absolutely no one (including police officers) is above the law. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 3 20:43:46 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 20:31:21 2010. The economy should have fixed itself. Businesses can plan for the next decade now, going forward, knowing that no unexpected additional levies are coming.(In other words, cap-and-trade is dead.) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 20:43:50 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 3 20:39:34 2010. Everything ... everything. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 20:49:55 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 3 20:43:46 2010. We have cap and trade out here. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:25:06 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 3 20:43:46 2010. Business does not fix itself. Businesses are like turtles. In times of uncertainty and danger they pull back into their shells. What business is going to expand or invest now with all the uncertainty about the economy and the certainty of an administration that is not friendly towards business? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:26:40 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 20:38:31 2010. Oh, please. Look you and nancy got what you wanted out of the administration. it's time you fess up and tell the truth. This guy is just looking for kill free enterprise in this country |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:29:23 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 3 16:14:28 2010. Sounds like you've missed your meds a few times in recent days. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 21:32:27 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:26:40 2010. We won't rest until we get your retirement too! :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:56:09 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 21:32:27 2010. Sort of figured that's where you're heading. Remember - I know where you live :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 3 21:59:54 2010, in response to Re: Michael Steele calls Afghan War a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:56:09 2010. So? Don't forget your metal detector for the ride up. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 22:34:16 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:17:10 2010. GP38 Chris, absent any proff whatsoever, are stating that there is no question that Obama benefited from affirmative action in getting admitted to Harvard and Columbia.I never even talked about his schooling. I SAID he became president through such a circumstance. Please don't put words in my mouth. They consider it impossible that Obama could have scored a high SAT or made excellent grades. What grades? I never even discussed his schooling, I was talking about his rise to the presidency. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 22:37:51 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:41:53 2010. You may not have meant it, but that's what many of them do. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 3 22:37:52 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Easy on Sat Jul 3 17:41:53 2010. You may not have meant it, but that's what many of them do. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 3 23:05:30 2010, in response to Re: Idiot Michael Steele calls Afghan War, a ''War of Obama's Choosing'', posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 3 21:29:23 2010. Are you saying that Bush and McCain were not legacy admissions? |
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