|
|
| IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig (558209) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
| (558209) | |
IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 13:28:37 2010 Barack Obama is the first president in whose lifetime no new state was admitted to the Union. |
|
|
| (558234) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Charles G on Fri Feb 5 14:14:15 2010, in response to IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 13:28:37 2010. Given that he hasn't actually finished his lifetime yet, he could still prove you wrong -- though would still be the first president for which no state had been admitted up to the time he became president.If he were able to re-achieve the levels of support he had earlier, one could certainly see him pushing DC statehood before the end of his second term. (Certainly seems unlikely at the moment, though). |
|
|
| (558259) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Feb 5 15:29:54 2010, in response to IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 13:28:37 2010. Interesting. Another fun presidential fact: There have been no US presidents born during the 30s (we skipped from George HW Bush, born 1924 to Willian J. Clinton, born 1946). And at this juncture, there probably never will be one (McCain was the last shot). Of course, there hasn't been a president born in the 50s either, but there is still time for that.Amazingly, the only other "missing" decade is the 1810s (Abraham Lincoln born 1809, Ulysses Grant born 1822). And that's going back to the 1730s, when George Washington and John Adams were born. |
|
|
| (558336) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Feb 5 20:48:37 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Charles G on Fri Feb 5 14:14:15 2010. The basic problem with DC statehood is how to do it. One idea is to make a state out of the basic downtown of Washington where the White House and the House and Senate are, but Maryland doesn't want the rest of DC back under any circumstance.I believe the "no state can be created out of any other state" may have something to do with it, so DC as it stands cannot be made a state unless Maryland the voters agree to it. |
|
|
| (558339) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 5 20:54:47 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Feb 5 20:48:37 2010. The capital is not supposed to be part of any state, though, so I don't see that working out. |
|
|
| (558349) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 5 21:11:59 2010, in response to IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 13:28:37 2010. Interesting. |
|
|
| (558996) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Feb 7 17:15:27 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 5 20:54:47 2010. Maryland does not want the parts of DC that are not part of the downtown Federal Government (White House, House and Senate and the government buildings for the Federal departments) since the two adjoining counties (Montgomery and Prince Georges) don't want to assume those parts of DC.I suspect DC will remain the way it is, as the assorted political problems cannot be solved easily, there is too much political baggage on both sides of the issue. |
|
|
| (558997) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 17:17:02 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Feb 5 20:48:37 2010. The voters of Maryland have nothing to do with DC, as DC is not part of any state. |
|
|
| (558998) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 17:17:39 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 5 20:54:47 2010. They can simply make downtown DC part of the District and the rest becomes a state. |
|
|
| (558999) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 7 17:21:09 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 17:17:39 2010. They can simply make downtown DC part of the District and the rest becomes a state.Because of the politics, that wouldn't do. Remember that it's also a partisan issue since admission of a new state comprised of DC or part thereof would likely mean more Democrats in Congress, which Republicans don't at all desire. So about the only compromise that could be struck is admission of a likely Republican majority state at the same time as a fraction of DC. |
|
|
| (559006) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 17:43:57 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 7 17:21:09 2010. Statehood for DC! Reparations for everyone!! |
|
|
| (559010) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 17:46:32 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 17:43:57 2010. I want slavery reparations from Egypt. |
|
|
| (559011) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 17:54:02 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 17:46:32 2010. Yes! But Egypt has little money so the first step would be to file a mechanics lien against any pyramids or structures that your ancestors built. |
|
|
| (559031) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 7 18:25:07 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 7 17:21:09 2010. There's plenty of Texas to go around :)Chop it up into 2 parts to counter DC as a state. |
|
|
| (559056) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 18:56:04 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 17:54:02 2010. Slaves didn't build pyramids though. |
|
|
| (559061) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 19:04:06 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 18:56:04 2010. What were they building in The Ten Commandments? |
|
|
| (559062) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 7 19:07:12 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 18:56:04 2010. Aliens then? |
|
|
| (559063) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 19:08:11 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 7 19:07:12 2010. Unlikely. Maybe Predators though. :-) |
|
|
| (559105) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 7 21:22:56 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 7 19:08:11 2010. Heh, I knew you were gonna bring that up :)AVP was a fun movie. |
|
|
| (559110) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 21:33:05 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 7 21:22:56 2010. It was ok. :)The second Alien (Aliens?) was my favorite! I watched part of Predator 2 a couple of weeks ago and couldn't believe how horrible it was! |
|
|
| (559268) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 8 05:47:21 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 5 20:54:47 2010. I looked into this, and it's not true. There is no requirement that there be a capital district, only that Congress may provide for one. |
|
|
| (559278) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 8 06:16:29 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 7 18:25:07 2010. Half of Texas would yield more then the one Representative that DC would expect based on their populations. It would be more viable to chop Alaska in two.Both Alaska and DC currently have only one member of Congress (a non-voting Delegate in DC's case). |
|
|
| (559298) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 8 08:58:16 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 8 05:47:21 2010. I merely said supposed to be, as in the tradition established. To my knowledge, it is not a constitutional requirement, but it is what settled where they would put the capital district. |
|
|
| (559318) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 8 11:45:16 2010, in response to IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 13:28:37 2010. and Sarah Palin will be the second. |
|
|
| (559341) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 8 15:01:19 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 8 08:58:16 2010. Personally I'd rather they pass an amendment entitling the district constituting the seat of government of the United States to representation as if it were a state, although IMO they don't deserve Senators, as Senators represent STATES. That's the problem right there with the 17th amendment. |
|
|
| (559342) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 8 15:03:02 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 8 11:45:16 2010. Dear God no!Actually yes, nominate Palin in 2012. Personally I'd rather a non-crazy Republican win the 2012 election, but since such is now a rare breed, Obama would be better. |
|
|
| (559401) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 8 18:15:39 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Feb 7 17:15:27 2010. since the two adjoining counties (Montgomery and Prince Georges) don't want to assume those parts of DC.Why do you assume that they'd make the City of Washington part of any county? The City of Baltimore has been independent of any county since 1851. |
|
|
| (559402) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 8 18:16:46 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 17:54:02 2010. Yes. You could call it a pyramid scheme. |
|
|
| (559403) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 8 18:18:00 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 7 17:21:09 2010. Could carry out some dodgy polling and claim that Puerto Rico would always vote for the GOP. |
|
|
| (559561) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 9 11:47:46 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 8 18:15:39 2010. Right. And when Alexandria was retroceded to Virginia, it was not made part of Fairfax County and the rest of Alexandria County, DC became a new Alexandria County, VA that previously never existed (since renamed Arlington County). |
|
|
| (559562) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 9 11:48:54 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 8 18:16:46 2010. That sounds to me like a scheme to profit off of pyramid games. </BATTLESTAR GALACTICA> |
|
|
| (559735) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 9 21:54:49 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 7 21:33:05 2010. Of the AVP movies, the 1st one is the better one. The 2nd one was just a waste.Gotta watch it again, but yeah 2nd one is the best of the 4. 2,1,4,3 in that order. Preditor 2, agreed - not as good as the 1st one. If they make a 5th Alien movie, I hope they show the Preditors as well. Like if they are still around or all killed off or something. |
|
|
| (559746) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 9 22:16:39 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 9 21:54:49 2010. I didn't even know that there was a 2nd AVP! |
|
|
| (559764) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 9 23:31:09 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 9 22:16:39 2010. AVP: R. R for Requiem. |
|
|
| (559910) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 10 16:58:23 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 8 18:15:39 2010. I don't assume that.What I said was Montgomery and Prince Georges Counties do not want any non-governmental parts of the District if the governmental parts are split off. This whole argument is based on the DC statehood question. |
|
|
| (559946) | |
Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 10 19:08:37 2010, in response to Re: IT'S A FACT! With Spider-Pig, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 10 16:58:23 2010. But why mention that? It's irrelevant. |
|
|