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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 23:11:08 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 23:01:22 2010. So you want a God that babies humanity and doesn't allow them to develop . . . ?What I want is quite irrelevant since I'm certainly neither omnipotent nor omniscient. But I don't think that the proposed line of response solves the problem of evil. The most successful responses that don't give up any of the three characteristics or monotheism have to invoke the idea of an afterlife, that in heaven everything is alright. It's tough for me, at any rate, to see how massive infliction of pain and suffering is supposed to develop humanity. E.g., I don't view Nazi gas chambers as having contributed to the development of humanity. At least not the positive development. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 23:16:25 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 23:11:08 2010. It's tough for me, at any rate, to see how massive infliction of pain and suffering is supposed to develop humanityDepends on what theological standpoint you are coming from. Robertson obviously missed the part where where King Solomon said that "time and chance happeneth to them all" (Ecclesiastes 9:11, almost ironically). |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jan 13 23:17:11 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 13 22:53:26 2010. I agree. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 00:22:56 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 22:34:04 2010. Arlen Specter ran for president in '96? I only remember Dob Bole, Teve Torbes, At Buchanan and Lamar Alexander #2. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 00:26:04 2010, in response to Re: BULL!! It;'s the Pacific plate - earthquakes and volcanoes and fault lines, Oh My, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 22:37:21 2010. You can believe in all of those things if you believe that God strictly does not intervene into the nature that He created or the affairs of man. What this does is that it makes prayer for something useless and counterproductive. That doesn't mean that prayer of gratitude is useless. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 00:29:34 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 23:11:08 2010. The most successful responses that don't give up any of the three characteristics or monotheism have to invoke the idea of an afterlife, that in heaven everything is alright.FALSE. See my post, see my post, made with real holy ghost. It's tough for me, at any rate, to see how massive infliction of pain and suffering is supposed to develop humanity. E.g., I don't view Nazi gas chambers as having contributed to the development of humanity. At least not the positive development. IAWTP |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jan 14 01:05:51 2010, in response to Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 15:27:47 2010. Its one thing to have personal beliefs and to share them with friends, co-workers, or blogging on the internet.But to have the audience he does, on network television, was a real boneheaded thing to have done. MORON! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:19:23 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Wed Jan 13 21:43:57 2010. Thank you. Falwell and Robertson said much worse. Straight out of al-Qaeda.I think that Falwell must believe in Global Warming now considering where his soul is residing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:21:09 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Wed Jan 13 21:43:57 2010. Thank you. Falwell and Robertson said much worse. Straight out of al-Qaeda.I think that Falwell must believe in Global Warming now considering where his soul is residing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:24:47 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 13 17:33:23 2010. Rev Wright doesn't have Democratic politicians genuflecting to him for his blessing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:26:18 2010, in response to BULL!! It;'s the Pacific plate - earthquakes and volcanoes and fault lines, Oh My, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jan 13 19:17:33 2010. See the title.Neither God or Satan is the cause. Pat Robertson says: "Wrong again, Dan Lawrence!" (sorry couldn't resist) ;-> |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 01:35:13 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:24:47 2010. So what? You can't deny the strong connection between Wright and Obama.I had to wiki Pat Robertson. I'm a Catholic from Queens. How the fuck would I know who this guy is? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:37:44 2010, in response to Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 15:27:47 2010. Impeccable timing as always for that demonic piece of garbage.First right after 9/11, then right after Katrina and now this. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jan 14 01:46:07 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:37:44 2010. One can only hope it's just the old age talking, otherwise he probably won't be joining God with such views like that. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 01:46:07 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 01:35:13 2010. I had to wiki Pat Robertson. I'm a Catholic from Queens. How the fuck would I know who this guy is?So you're ignorant and uninformed, we already knew that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 01:49:27 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 01:46:07 2010. No you little homo loser, he's hardly someone I would be familiar with. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 01:57:51 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:19:23 2010. In the ground with his corporeal remains? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 01:59:12 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jan 14 01:46:07 2010. He probably won't be joining God with any kind of views. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:03:44 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 01:49:27 2010. So you claim to be some great amateur political thinker around here, yet you have never heard of the man perhaps singularly responsible for Dubya's reign? If you're unfamiliar with the person who laid the religious foundations of the Project for the New American Century, then how exactly are you not ignorant or uninformed again?Also, homo is a very classy, mature touch. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:11:33 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:03:44 2010. So you claim to be some great amateur political thinker around here,Sorry cream puff, I never made such a claim. Do you really think Robertson is singularly responsible for Dubya's reign? I guess that make you a great amateur political thinker. Did Robertson lay the foundations of Project for the New American Century? That's not info most people would know. You're a frustrated annoying little homo. What else can I say? |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:20:34 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jan 14 01:46:07 2010. The god Pat worships is in jail for tax fraud. He is a businessman, his wife told the press he was a businessman back during his presidential campaign:"He is not a television evangelist. He has never been an evangelist. He is a television broadcaster. He has a law degree. He's a businessman. He has a multi-million dollar business that he started with $70. He's a good businessman."Pat can go insulting the Haitians because they're not going to stop doing business with him. They're worthless as producers or consumers of his dreck. That's more because they're predominently Roman Catholic instead of the economic hardships the media has liked to talk up. But with bullshit statements like this which paint the whole nation as some sort of heathen voodoo nightmare he can stir up his viewers. And all those braindead yokels will give him shitloads of money to send food to the country accompanied by missionaries and his bibles loaded with interpretive pamphlets. He gets to take his cut of the 'good will', and, even better, he gets to skim even more off the top to support the Republicans who have been good little boys and girls toeing his line. Sure, it's just pennies on the donated dollar that will ever leave this country, let alone actually help some Haitian, but this scam is a tax deductable religious charity. Plain and simple he's a vulture, preying human suffering for his own economic and political gain. He is fundamentally no better than the reprehensible fools who are already sending out emails claiming to be a Haitian in need. Fine, he sugar coats by appealing to the value his viewers put in evangelizing, but they're kidding themselves if they think they're going to gain a toehold in that country. In the end most of the money will end up in the the pockets of Pat, his friends, and the politicians they support. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:30:38 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:11:33 2010. Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition laid the groundwork for over a quarter-century of GOP dominance in American politics.Not getting his blessing was a death-knell for just about any Republican politician. Even his staying neutral was considered a thumbs-down. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:33:41 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:30:38 2010. I just turned on the local Christian television stations. These Protestant women are really hot.What percentage of Republican voters have even seen a minute of this Robertson guy on televison? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:36:01 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:20:34 2010. Not to mention Robertson's partnership with Liberia's genocidal former dictator Charles TaylorWashington Post By Colbert I. King Saturday, September 22, 2001; Page A29 Last week's terrorist attacks brought out the worst in televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Three days after hijacked jetliners slammed into the Pentagon, the World Trade Center and the Pennsylvania countryside, Robertson posted a statement on his Christian Broadcast Network (CBN) Web site announcing that pornography, rampant secularism, the occult, abortion, the absence of prayer in schools and insults of God "at the highest level of our government" had sent the Almighty over the edge. America was attacked, Robertson asserted, "because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us." Appearing on CBN's "700 Club" the day before Robertson's blast, Falwell had also cut loose. Falwell (who you may recall feared that Tinky Winky the Teletubby was gay and out to damage the moral lives of children) singled out homosexuals, supporters of abortion rights, pagans, the American Civil Liberties Union and People for the American Way as groups to blame for the Tuesday massacres. But a day later and facing a firestorm of criticism, Falwell backtracked. Labeling his own comments "insensitive, uncalled for at the time, and unnecessary as part of the comment on this destruction," Falwell said he blamed no one but the hijackers and terrorists for what happened. Robertson, who had joined Falwell's blame game during the show, ("Jerry, that's my feeling") cut and ran when it hit the fan. "Severe and harsh in tone" was how Robertson characterized pal Falwell's remarks in a later press release. "Totally inappropriate," he later said during a Fox News appearance. Well, the Rev. Falwell has advanced to the rear, so let's let him be for the moment. Robertson, however, is another matter. He still thinks God removed His protection from the nation, thus allowing our enemies to give us what we deserve. What's more, to hear Robertson tell it, one of the abominations prompting God to hide his face from America is this country's self-indulgence, pursuit of financial gain and focus on wealth. Which is the subject of today's column, and the basis for this humble question: What, pray tell, does the Good Lord make of Pat Robertson's gold-mining venture in Liberia with Charles Taylor, international pariah and one of the most ruthless, greedy and terror-producing heads of state in all of sub-Saharan Africa? What? He didn't know? Well it probably slipped Robertson's mind, busy as he is in getting people to send in those checks, money orders and love offerings to support his cause. How the reverend found time to hook up with Taylor, I'll never know. But in May 1999, Robertson, through Freedom Gold Limited, an offshore company registered in the Cayman Islands but based at CBN headquarters in Virginia Beach, signed an agreement with Taylor and key cabinet members allowing the for-profit Freedom Gold to explore and receive mining rights in southeastern Liberia, where gold is believed to be in the ground. It's a great deal for Liberia, which is now an economic basket case thanks to the long civil war and Taylor's corruption. It's also good for Freedom Gold, which was formed by Robertson in 1998. Liberia -- and for all practical purposes we're talking Taylor -- gains 10 percent ownership of Freedom Gold. As The Post's Douglas Farah reported in January, huge amounts of the country's funds have been siphoned off by a small group of Taylor's associates and relatives. Taylor "has his hand in everything and gets a cut of everything," a businessman told The Post. Other Liberians, probably Taylor's gang, are entitled to buy at least 15 percent of Freedom Gold's shares after the exploration period. In a phone interview on Wednesday, Joe Mathews, Freedom Gold's vice president for finance and administration ("actually I'm acting as managing director," he confided), said the company is currently in the exploration stage but "there is little activity at the moment because it's monsoon season." He said gold has been found, but whether it is a viable venture has not been determined. Mathews confirmed reports that Freedom Gold is committed to spend $15 million during the exploration phase, but he said it has yet to spend anything close to that amount. The deal with Liberia gives Freedom Gold exploration rights for five years, and an additional "20 years to mine it," Mathews said. Liberia is currently collecting exploration and rental fees from Freedom Gold; the government also will pocket royalties and rental fees once production gets underway. Yesterday Fisher also faxed a letter stating that the company has shown it is "a responsible corporate citizen." He cited company-built wells and pumps for safe drinking water, a free medical clinic that serves 1,000 patients a month from surrounding villages and the construction of roads and bridges to reach the area. "Freedom Gold has done more for the people in this region in the last two years than any other company over the last thirty years," he said, adding that the company intends to contribute even more. Taylor needs the cash. His country is in ruins, though he and Madam Jewel Howard Taylor live well, thanks to sales of Liberia's precious resources and concession fees from foreign investors such as Freedom Gold. Monrovia, the country's capital, is the pits: sporadic running water and electricity, hungry and malnourished children. And the countryside, where illiteracy is up to 70 percent and fighting still rages, is worse off. The United Nations finally got its back up. Fed up with Taylor's complicity in helping rebels in neighboring Sierra Leone market diamonds to finance terror against their government, the U.N. Security Council slapped sanctions on Liberia: no international sale of diamonds; an embargo on foreign travel by senior Taylor officials. The United States has imposed economic sanctions, too. And why not? The U.S.-educated but Libya- trained Taylor is a menace to all that's decent. Ironically, it was Christmas Eve 1989 -- (get that Mr. Robertson) -- when warlord Taylor and his band of rebels launched their bloody invasion of Liberia. They took on a despot in then-president and former sergeant Samuel Doe. But Taylor's crowd turned out to be no better. Twelve years later, with tens of thousands of Liberians slain, hundreds of thousands displaced throughout West Africa, a generation of young Liberian boys ruined by their conversion to child soldiers, women raped and mutilated, his country is in absolute ruins and is ostracized by the world community -- except for hustlers, mercenaries and the preacher/entrepreneur from Virginia Beach. Taylor presides over a near corpse. Finding himself in the tightest of spots, Taylor the Intimidator weighed in this week on America's side in the fight against terrorism. But his real hope lies with deep-pocketed foreigners and their unquenchable thirst for a buck. What a marriage. Can't you see it now? Robertson, fresh from his latest condemnation of sin, prediction of world collapse and visions of Liberian gold, sports his best "aw, shucks" smile, throws his arm around a grateful President Taylor -- who ought to be standing before a war crimes tribunal -- and coos: "C'mon, Charlie, what's a little human rights between friends?" e-mail: kingc@washpost.com |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:37:34 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:36:01 2010. or this:Pat Robertson Slams Bush On Liberia TV Evangelist Defends Liberian President Charles Taylor Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson (seen in Aug. 2000 file photo) said the war crimes indictment against Liberian President Charles Taylor “is nonsense and should be quashed.” (AP) (CBS) Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson accused President Bush of “undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels” by asking Liberian President Charles Taylor, recently indicted for war crimes, to step down. “How dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, 'You've got to step down,'" Robertson said Monday on “The 700 Club,” broadcast from his Christian Broadcasting Network. “It's one thing to say, we will give you money if you step down and we will give you troops if you step down, but just to order him to step down? He doesn't work for us.” Robertson, a Bush supporter who has financial interests in Liberia, said he believes the State Department has “mismanaged the situation in nation after nation after nation” in Africa. “So we're undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country,” he said in the broadcast. Robertson told The Washington Post in an interview published Thursday that he has “written off in my own mind” an $8 million investment in a Liberian gold mining venture he made four years ago, under an agreement with Taylor's government. “Once the dust has cleared on this thing, chances are there will be some investors from someplace who want to invest. If I could find some people to sell it to, I'd be more than delighted,” he said in the article. He said his investment was intended to help pay for humanitarian and evangelical efforts in Liberia. Angell Watts, a spokeswoman for Robertson, said Robertson was not available to comment Thursday because he was traveling. She also declined to comment. Taylor waged war for seven years as a rebel leader before being elected president in 1997. The United Nations and European leaders have sought U.S. troops to enforce a repeatedly violated June 17 cease-fire between forces loyal to Taylor and rebels fighting for three years to oust him. Under the deal, Taylor promised to step down, clearing the way for a transitional government that will oversee fresh elections. Mr. Bush, speaking Wednesday in South Africa, promised to help enforce the cease-fire and “see to it that Mr. Taylor leaves office so there can be a peaceful transition in Liberia.” On Sunday, Taylor accepted an offer of asylum from Nigeria, but on condition that an international force is deployed in Liberia. A U.N.-backed tribunal indicted Taylor on June 4 for war crimes in neighboring Sierra Leone. Robertson told the Post that the war crimes indictment “is nonsense and should be quashed.” He said Taylor has “become such a lightning rod” that he should leave office, but in an orderly transition accompanied by the insertion of U.S. peacekeepers. “Frankly, the president's call for Taylor to step down immediately is not wise, because if Taylor leaves immediately, the country will descend into chaos,” he told the paper. © MMIII The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 14 02:41:42 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:37:34 2010. Why give that Pharisee any publicity. He can bury himself on his own . . . |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:43:55 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 14 02:41:42 2010. Why give that Pharisee any publicity. He can bury himself on his own . . .Because his immoral misdeed must be exposed. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:45:59 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:11:33 2010. Do you really think Robertson is singularly responsible for Dubya's reign?Alright fine, it was the Katherine Harris and the Supreme Court that was ultimately responsible for loosing that fool on the Executive Office, but that's more a matter of happenstance. Without Dubya being the 700 Club-approved candidate back in 2000 he would have been out of the race before March and it would have been a shootout between McCain and Forbes. Instead the religious right teamed up with PNAC and got them to send their charisma-less loser home after just three failed primaries. After that they just had to defame the reputation of an actual war hero to get them within spitting distance of the White House. Katherine Harris and the US Supreme Court did the rest. Did Robertson lay the foundations of Project for the New American Century? Alright fine, Robertson washed his hands of his involvement in PNAC through Gary Bauer. It was Mr. Bauer that set the religious tone of the imperialist group. Bauer just so happened to do reports which were basically at the instigation of Robertson while Bauer served Mr. Reagan. Certainly the link between Robertson and PNAC is stronger than the one between Sadaam Hussain and Osama Bin Laden. :) You're a frustrated annoying little homo. What else can I say? I am in fact not, but that's fine, I'm secure in my sexuality. What is amusing is that you're a frustrated idiot. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 14 02:46:15 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:43:55 2010. Because his immoral misdeed must be exposedThe blood and pus are running all over the place though. Don't have enough baking soda to contain the stench. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 14 02:47:33 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:30:38 2010. Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition laid the groundwork for over a quarter-century of GOP dominance in American politicsI don't recall the GOP dominating US politics for any period lasting 25 years. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:48:06 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:43:55 2010. Why would an Italian liberal from Queens give a shit about these people? If Pat Robertson walked through Queens Center Mall, not a single person would even recognize him. Seriously. He could attend a NY Mets game, and no one would know who he is. No one cares. Down here it's another story.Hey, did you know the Zahn family in Long Island City? I went to elementary school with them. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:53:45 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 14 02:46:15 2010. The blood and pus are running all over the place though. Don't have enough baking soda to contain the stench.eeewwww! Ok..I'll stop then. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:53:57 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:45:59 2010. If you were secure, you wouldn't be so frustrated all the time. It shows in your posts.Dubya won the race b/c McCain is lame. Not b/c of the Christian right. These people like Robertson have never had influence on voters, just like these wacko left-wing groups had nothing to do with Dems comeback in recent years. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:55:50 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:48:06 2010. Why would an Italian liberal from Queens give a shit about these people?Because his influence had a national impact including on Queens. Hey, did you know the Zahn family in Long Island City? I went to elementary school with them. I don't think so. Did they have a brother named Jesse? A blonde guy. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jan 14 02:59:48 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:36:01 2010. Tip of the iceberg. Before that his African Development Corporation, in which Robertson was the sole shareholder, had agreements with Zaire's strongman leader Mobutu Sese Seko to dredge and export diamonds. Robertson used the aircraft of his humanitarian group Operation Blessing, to keep the mines supplied. He quite literally has built an empire on blood diamonds.A yearlong investigation of televangelist Pat Robertson's activities in Africa is now over, but state officials are sitting on the final report pending a review by attorneys, reports the Virginian-Pilot newspaper. The probe focused on possible inappropriate activities involving Robertson's Operation Blessing outreach, and a private corporation he operated known as the African Development Co. Based in Zaire, the firm was established by Robertson during the rule of the late dictator Mobutu Sese Seko. The two men established close ties, and Mobutu wined and dined Robertson during one visit to the country; ADC also received vast forestry and mineral concessions, but the diamond mining operation eventually went bankrupt. Mobutu, after a quarter-century of iron fisted rule, died last year in exile from cancer. He left Zaire bankrupt and impoverished, and since 1994 had even been considered persona non grata in the United States.It's not like these post disaster scams are anything new to Pat, he was up to the same shit right after Katrina. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 03:00:12 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 02:53:57 2010. Religious Right wackos are much more influential in Republican politics than left-wing wackos are in Democratic politics. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 03:00:59 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 02:55:50 2010. Eddie and Paula(not the famous Paula Zahn). Not sure about Jesse.They lived near 30th Ave on the N. I remember hanging out with them in 1992. It's amazing how that neighborhood has changed so much. NY is not influenced by any of these people. It really is a separate world. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 03:05:31 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 03:00:12 2010. Are you sure about that? Moveon.org has claimed to run the Dem Party, and they are as left-wing wacko as you can get. Same with Media Matters. These wacko groups are far more influential than the Christian right in the GOP. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 03:20:47 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jan 13 15:40:20 2010. Look, it's no big deal. Religious figures have ALWAYS equated natural disasters with God. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 14 04:13:01 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Wed Jan 13 21:43:57 2010. Worked for that coke-sniffer ... :( |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 14 07:30:50 2010, in response to Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 15:27:47 2010. Hmm when white people fight for freedom they do it honorably, but when black people do the same thing we make deals with the devil? Get outta here... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 14 07:38:52 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 14 07:30:50 2010. Were Haitians wrong for wanting equality? Is it okay to be oppressed by the French? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 14 10:22:51 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 01:57:51 2010. If you believe that, then you don't believe in the existence of a soul, hence rendering your response utter nonsense.You are entitled to your opinion but at least make sense when you state it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 10:54:13 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 14 10:22:51 2010. There are multiple meanings of soul. Whatever makes up an individual ends on death, or his buried with his body. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 10:55:02 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 10:54:13 2010. And the world would be better off if my opinion prevailed. Belief in the afterlife is like belief in Santa Claus. Most people are too old for it. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 14 11:24:36 2010, in response to Re: BULL!! It;'s the Pacific plate - earthquakes and volcanoes and fault lines, Oh My, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 00:26:04 2010. You can believe in all of those things if you believe that God strictly does not intervene into the nature that He created or the affairs of man.This move probably compromises the infinitely good nature, though. In general, one still needs a net good to most, which is why the afterlife is viewed as the most successful strategy. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 14 11:26:51 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 00:29:34 2010. See my post, see my post, made with real holy ghost.I was wondering if anyone would get that Lady in the Radiator Song reference. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 13:00:43 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 14 11:26:51 2010. Actually that was a different reference entirely. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 14 15:16:45 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by WillD on Wed Jan 13 22:00:07 2010. They don't like him when he runs his mouth off and embarasses them with just how ignorant he really is.I agree. I am taking issue with the feeble and uncalled for exploitation of this disaster and this asshole for personal political benefit. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 17:10:56 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 10:54:13 2010. There are multiple meanings of soul.Agreed. |
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