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WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 09:56:41 2009 full story here. (It would have been far more interesting to have someone who tends to disagree more with Bush do the interview, but oh well, this is WSJ's editorial page, after all).excerpts: Jeb Bush Republicans Must Be a National Party Florida's former governor on immigration, school choice, and the GOP's limited-government foundation. By FRED BARNES Miami His grandfather Prescott Bush was a U.S. senator, and his father and brother were presidents. Yet Jeb Bush doesn't believe in political dynasties, and seems perfectly willing to let his family's legacy of serving in high office in Washington pass him by. [The Weekend Interview] Ismael Roldan It's "possible," he says, that he'll never run again -- for anything. That includes the presidency in 2012. "I'm totally comfortable with what I'm doing and how I'm going about it. I hope I can find a role to play that doesn't include running for office to make a contribution." Mr. Bush, who turned 56 this week, stepped down in 2007 after eight years as governor of Florida. Now he's working in real estate, consulting, giving paid speeches, promoting education reform, and offering advice to the Republican Party. Even the U.S. Senate seat that Republican Mel Martinez will vacate next year didn't entice him. That, he says, would require a seven and a half year commitment -- a year and a half of campaigning and six years in office. He sounds weary merely discussing another campaign. But Mr. Bush becomes animated when talking about ideas and policy innovations -- he's an unorthodox Republican who latches onto reform ideas wherever he finds them. He's a fan of the school system in Sweden (more on this below). Currently he's reading "Disrupting Class: How Disruptive Innovation Will Change the Way the World Learns" -- on his Kindle electronic reader. And he's convinced Republicans should make a heroic effort to govern California because it's "a center of innovation and a place that looks like the changing demographics of our country, similar to Florida." .... [immigration:] Republicans must also clean up their act on immigration, Mr. Bush insists. Last year, he says they "set a tone" that pushed Hispanic voters away. "The tone of the debate reached a point that was very damning to the Republican Party, and the evidence is in. The chest pounders lost." Mr. Bush supports immigration reform as championed by his brother and John McCain, which would allow illegals already in this country to stay. "Politics has to be about ideas and values and aspirations." he says. "It shouldn't be about anger and preying on people's emotions. You can't lead a mob." [thinly veiled criticism of fellow Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger:] "Beyond the ideas and all of that," Mr. Bush says the GOP must be a national party. That means "we need to be competitive in California," where the "burden of big-government policies" has produced a $42 billion deficit. "I don't care how big the state is, that's mind-boggling. It's not a tax problem. Don't they have the 'excuse me for living' tax out there? The growth of government spending has been enormous. And a creative, reform-minded candidate on the Republican side" could be elected governor. He encouraged Meg Whitman, the former CEO of eBay, to try. "She's the kind of person who's lived and managed and led through the disruptive changes that are going on in our lives," Mr. Bush says. On Feb. 9, Ms. Whitman set up an exploratory committee, normally a precursor to running. [education:] Nevertheless, his current lack of interest in elective office surely is not the last word on Mr. Bush's political career. He's popular with both moderate and conservative Republicans, and more easy-going and genial than his brother George. Mr. Bush was a successful governor (1999-2007) of the fourth most populous state. His tenure was memorable because of his intense focus on reform of education, government, the budget process, civil service, health care, procurement and race-based programs. He also cut taxes in a state with no income tax. What comes through when Mr. Bush is asked about education is how radical his views are. He would toss out the traditional K-to-12 scheme in favor of a credit system, like colleges have. "It's not based on seat time," he says. "It's whether you accomplished the task. Now we're like GM in its heyday of mass production. We don't have a flourishing education system that's customized. There's a whole world out there that didn't exist 10 years ago, which is online learning. We have the ability today to customize learning so we don't cast young people aside." This is where Sweden comes in. "The idea that somehow Sweden would be the land of innovation, where private involvement in what was considered a government activity, is quite shocking to us Americans," Mr. Bush says. "But they're way ahead of us. They have a totally voucherized system. The kids come from Baghdad, Somalia -- this is in the tougher part of Stockholm -- and they're learning three languages by the time they finish. . . . there's no reason we can't have that except we're stuck in the old way." |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:01:48 2009, in response to WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 09:56:41 2009. Fuck this shit. He's saying Republicans have to pander to Hispanics by being weak on immigration. That's the problem, and it's one reason why McCain lost. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:03:19 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:01:48 2009. I love hearing that. Keep talking.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:05:18 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:03:19 2009. Why? It's true. He's saying conservatives have to sound like liberals to get votes.And why do you love hearing it? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:09:10 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:05:18 2009. I love hearing it because you guys won't change and will lose even more seats in Congress.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:13:56 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:09:10 2009. But I'm not "you guys". Truth is, the Republicans have changed. Bush was not a fiscal conservative by any means, and not at all hard on immigrants. In fact, some hardcore conservatives called him "Jorge Bush" because he was so weak on immigration.Sell your home in Connecticut and move to Corona if you like Latino immigrants so much. You can listen to loud music, barking dogs, and take photos of the 7 train on your free time. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:17:39 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:13:56 2009. You can listen to loud music, barking dogs, and take photos of the 7 train on your free time.Where's the bad part? ;P your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:22:34 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:17:39 2009. Not sure. But it can't be so good if you live in some small Connecticut town instead of NY. Most people who moved from NY to Conn and LI did so to live in a white man's haven and avoid NY's growing minority population.But back to the story, the statement that Hispanics are scared off b/c of the immigration issue is the same as saying that Republicans should be pro illegal immigration to get the Latino vote. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:26:20 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:22:34 2009. And one thing you don't understand Fred is this: Latinos not only want to hear that illegals already hear can stay, they want to hear that more should be allowed to come as they please. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 14 10:39:26 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:22:34 2009. Most people who moved from NY to Conn and LI did so to live in a white man's haven and avoid NY's growing minority population.Some people don't like congestion. I must say I love Manhattan and I love the really rural parts of the state where the nearest mall is 40 miles away, but I'd hate living in Queens. All the disadvantages of density and none of the benefits. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:41:08 2009, in response to WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 09:56:41 2009. Having a 50-state strategy would also help. A 28-state strategy is not going to work, or else the GOP will see themselves being overestimated again in battleground states; I'm sure that 2008 was NOT an anomaly. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:41:56 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 14 10:39:26 2009. Depends what part of Queens. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:43:52 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:05:18 2009. Well, if they want to take over the US Senate in the midterm, guess where it will come down to? That's right: NEW YORK CITY. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:45:14 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:41:08 2009. Depends on whether or not the media decides to side with one candidate in the future. They did everything to get Obama elected, like no other candidate in history.Are you saying the GOP should say, "Ok, you know what, all the illegals here, Bienvendios, and all future illegals, come on in, we welcome you too"? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:45:54 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:43:52 2009. And NYC is not an American city anymore, so you know what that means. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 11:03:41 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:22:34 2009. I moved from NY to CT when I was 3 or 4. Sometimes I wish we'd stayed but can't look back.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 11:05:40 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:43:52 2009. Well, if they want to take over the US Senate in the midterm, guess where it will come down to? That's right: NEW YORK CITY.How was this alleged clairvoyance conjured up????? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 14 11:22:05 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:45:54 2009. And NYC is not an American city anymore, so you know what that means.??? There are many immigrants here, but the vast majority are making their best effort to be Americans. Almost everyone who wants a job learns English - there are very few jobs that don't require mingling with people who don't speak the immigrant's native language. I'm often amused when one foreigner oomes into a retail establishment staffed by a foreigner of a different origin, as they both make themselves understood to each other in broken and heavily accented English. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 11:26:36 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 14 11:22:05 2009. The vast majority of Mexicans send money to Puebla, and have no plans on staying. Not sure about the other immigrant groups. But to me, what made NY great was the European Immigrant, not just "the immigrant", if you know what I mean. Times have changed. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 11:27:17 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 11:26:36 2009. And btw AlM, Obama has two weeks to get a dog. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Feb 14 11:31:16 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:26:20 2009. Yes. They want to hear that because it is good for them. And everyone else... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 11:32:14 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by R30A on Sat Feb 14 11:31:16 2009. En que manera? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 14 11:45:03 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 11:27:17 2009. I know. I'm beginning to suspect that they won't. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 11:54:21 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:41:08 2009. Even if he gets support from Democratic strongholds like NY and CA, those 2 will always go for the Democrats no matter what. Those states are a lost cause [unless the EC votes were divided or something]. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 11:55:27 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 14 11:45:03 2009. And that's pretty messed up. Obama promised his daughter a dog at the victory speech. Why would he not get a dog? He should've already had one at that big house back in Chicago.I say it's because he was raised a Muslim, and feels uncomfortable having one. Another theory is that as the first black President, he simply has to break some traditions just to show everyone that a black President will do things a little different than whites have. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 12:00:41 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 11:05:40 2009. Well, Arkansas and Maryland are absolute locks to be retained by the Democrats, as is Delaware.The others are in states near or close to the middle, and Barbara Boxer is not that safe. Seats will likely be traded in Nevada and Pennsylvanua As such, it would probably come down to New York...or New Hampshire. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 13:58:39 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 10:41:08 2009. If leading members of the House GOP stopped comparing the Republican Party to the Taliban, that might help too!The Democrats coalesced through the politics of image, not substantive disagreement. Republicans have major issues to work through, but in terms of crass politics, if the economy is still up Shit Creek without a paddle in late 2012, if the GOP presents a candidate who projects favorably, they might just regain some of their previous power, regardless of whether or not anyone's ideas make sense or not. Of course, if the economy continues its doldrums further, they too will lose control. I tend to think that we will have quite a few years of the economy being up the creek. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 14:55:54 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:13:56 2009. Sell your home in Connecticut and move to Corona if you like Latino immigrants so much. You can listen to loud music, barking dogs, and take photos of the 7 train on your free time.FYI, you and the great lefty rag NYT see eye to eye; they just did a profile of Corona in their real estate section this week. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 16:29:35 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:45:14 2009. LuchAAA, that's taking the easy way out. The media can be overcome; I'm just surprised that Michael Steele is (in the spirit of NASCAR) already two laps down. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 16:30:24 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 11:54:21 2009. California could be within reach after the mess they are in, if the GOP blankets billboards and the airwaves there. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 16:30:54 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 16:30:24 2009. The question though remains: How many Republican gains in the midterms will be districted out in 2012? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 16:43:43 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 16:30:54 2009. good question. still, they might gain some more votes, but I still don't see it as enough to just reach 50% CA needs to be split if the GOP ever hopes to get a shot of some EC votes.Hell CA probably needs to be split into 2 states. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 16:56:58 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by R30A on Sat Feb 14 11:31:16 2009. Good for everyone else? explain please. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 14 19:01:20 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 10:17:39 2009. haha. I like all those things too.Loud music, barking dogs and the (7) train sound like Paradise to me. Throw in the good food and you're set. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 19:07:12 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 16:43:43 2009. Oregon and Washington work the same way; the conservatives in the East (of all 3 states) complain that they are not being heard by the Democratic Senators who were elected on the strength of the West (of each state, CA, OR, and WA). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 19:33:56 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 16:29:35 2009. Poor Michael Steele. You can't be black and conservative. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 14 19:35:56 2009, in response to WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 14 09:56:41 2009. GOP's been more liberal than that from '94 to '06. Jeb needs to retire, poor feller. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 19:55:44 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 14 19:01:20 2009. I think good eats is a given in Corona, based on the small sampling I've tried.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 21:59:07 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 10:13:56 2009. [Sell your home in Connecticut and move to Corona if you like Latino immigrants so much. You can listen to loud music, barking dogs, and take photos of the 7 train on your free time.]As usual....you don't get out much do you, LurchAAA? There are latinos in Connecticutt just as there are in most areas of the US...boy, can you make yourself sound any more like a pathetic loser? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:03:04 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 21:59:07 2009. Not nearly as many Latinos as there are in NYC. You really are stupid aren't you? Can't compare Queens to Connecticut. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 22:07:04 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:03:04 2009. Jerk off....there are many parts of Connecticutt with sizable latino populations. Try New Haven for one. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:09:43 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 22:07:04 2009. Small compared to NY. Little pockets. You're really ignorant and don't understand mass population vs. small pockets. You'll learn idiot. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 22:14:52 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:09:43 2009. Just like you learned to polish knobs for a living. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:17:10 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 22:14:52 2009. If I had to do that, I'd learn from your mother. I bet she has a big ol pimp mark near her hip bone. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 22:19:44 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:17:10 2009. Thanks for showing us what a lowlife scum sucking bastard you really are.... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 22:20:38 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Feb 14 22:19:44 2009. Thanks for the unwarrented personal attack that started this whole thing. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 23:38:52 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 19:07:12 2009. Damn... all on the east side? i wonder if it would be possible to split up the 3 states's eastern parts and combine the 3 areas into one state or something?Let the Democrats rule the remainder of the existing states. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 14 23:44:12 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 14 23:38:52 2009. No that wouldn't be possible. Besides most of the people are in the west. It makes sense that their votes carry more weight than the eastern votes. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Feb 14 23:47:03 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 14 23:44:12 2009. Eastern California is mostly mountains (north) or desert (south). Not that many people there. I'd guess roughly 80% of CA's population lives within a 90-miniute drive of the ocean. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 15 00:05:31 2009, in response to Re: WSJ interview with Jeb Bush: GOP must be national party, moderate on immigration, push school choice, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 14 23:44:12 2009. So what would be the problem of the 'GOP' segments to join together as one state? I'm sure even the eastern portions of the 3 states will still maybe outnumber Wyoming [the lowest populated state]. |
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