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Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by 9 local on Sun Dec 21 02:38:10 2008

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Continental 1404 caught fire while departing Denver International Airport bound for Houston Intercontinental Airport today. The aircraft, a Boeing 737, skidded off the runway and into a ravine before bursting into flames. There are no critical injuries or fatalities reported.

In Albany, NY, a Continental Express Embraer 145 operated by ExpressJet Airways skidded into a snowbank while taxiing.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:46:31 2008, in response to Bad Luck for Continental, posted by 9 local on Sun Dec 21 02:38:10 2008.

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This is insane. I've been tracking Jetblue flight 29 on their website, while a plane was actually crashing in Denver.

I've been getting this feeling all week that there would be a plane crash. That's why I got the hell out of JFK and drove to Tampa.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 02:51:08 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:46:31 2008.

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Jeez, not this again... so don't fly Continental then.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:54:15 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 02:51:08 2008.

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I have a better stat for you. Not flying at all. That will greatly reduce the chances of dying in a plane wreck.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 02:56:52 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:54:15 2008.

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Sure won't help you avoid risks on the road though...

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 03:11:04 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 02:56:52 2008.

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Sure won't help you avoid risks on the road though...

...which are much greater, IIRC. More proff that this guy isn't too bright, AFAICT.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 03:15:40 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 03:11:04 2008.

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Yeah, this flying fears, are getting irrational. So far no problems on Jetblue for me. He should fly Jetblue only.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:17:13 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 03:11:04 2008.

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Airplane crash stats are not accurate. They calculate the number of passengers instead of flights to determine the chances of dying in a plane crash.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:18:33 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 03:15:40 2008.

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What are you talking about? I've been on their planes about 15 times in the last year. A few observations on my part resulted in my decision not to fly them, or any planes for the time being.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 21 03:20:41 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:18:33 2008.

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Well congrats, but if you've flown that much already then shouldn't you feel a bit safer since having so many flights w/out major incidents?
From your posts it seems like you've flown kinda rarely.
I can understand fears, but now that i see you've flown that many times, i just don't see why you are this worried.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:23:52 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 03:11:04 2008.

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And what's with the insult? I all but predicted a plane crash since Monday, and it happened tonight. How does that make me not "too bright"?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Greg_UWS on Sun Dec 21 03:29:39 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:23:52 2008.

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You "predicted" a plane crash? Are you claiming special powers?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:30:47 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Greg_UWS on Sun Dec 21 03:29:39 2008.

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Are you?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 21 03:32:13 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Greg_UWS on Sun Dec 21 03:29:39 2008.

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He practices Zen Bunnyism ... :)



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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Greg_UWS on Sun Dec 21 03:37:05 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:30:47 2008.

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I don't think I'm the one who "predicted" a plane crash. I'm just wondering how you claim you're able to do this.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:38:10 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Greg_UWS on Sun Dec 21 03:37:05 2008.

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I did. That's all that counts.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:55:00 2008, in response to Bad Luck for Continental, posted by 9 local on Sun Dec 21 02:38:10 2008.

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Yahoo's coverage is horrible. AP is calling it a "Passenger Jet" instead of saying "Continental Airlines" in the headlines. Guess no one wants to scare off those ad dollars in this economy.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 04:04:57 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:23:52 2008.

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It's safer to fly than to drive.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 04:08:27 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 04:04:57 2008.

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But it doesn't feel that way.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 21 07:30:44 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 04:08:27 2008.

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With all due respect, that's not a very good way of assessing any kind of risk.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 08:47:01 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 21 07:30:44 2008.

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I Agree With This Post (IAWTP).

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 08:47:30 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 04:08:27 2008.

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So? The facts are facts. Your fear is irrational, and you won't accept it.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 10:22:41 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:46:31 2008.

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I can't believe you weren't all over this one!

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 21 10:24:07 2008, in response to Bad Luck for Continental, posted by 9 local on Sun Dec 21 02:38:10 2008.

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It actually worked out fairly well for Continental, as everyone made it off the plane in Denver, with about 35 mostly minor injuries. The aircraft seems like a definite write-off, however.

My LIRR/NYCT blog

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:31:17 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 08:47:30 2008.

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Exaggerated, but not irrational.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:32:34 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 10:22:41 2008.

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No one broke the story for hours.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 21 14:40:54 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:46:31 2008.

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BUT THAT'S DOUBTFULL, TROLL



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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 21 14:41:17 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 02:46:31 2008.

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BUT THAT'S DOUBTFULL, TROLL



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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 21 14:42:41 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:32:34 2008.

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wHAT WERE YOU ASLEEP?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 21 14:42:42 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:31:17 2008.

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Yes, irrational.

But that's OK. As long as you buy lots of Amtrak tickets. :0)

GO AMTRAK!

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:44:46 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 21 14:42:42 2008.

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If I could get a ticket and room for the trip from Tampa to NY for $300 or less, I'd do it. But Amtrak is too pricey.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 21 15:10:06 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:44:46 2008.

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You can get it for under $400, but under $300 is tough, for a direct train. Might be able to combine discounts, or some weekend packages to drive down the price, though.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 21 15:10:32 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:44:46 2008.

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What do you have nay niney worries for? You have allude here that you are rich. And besides a plane can crash inti an AMTRAK train, that you are thr only passener on, and do the world a favor. TROLL

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 21 15:14:04 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:31:17 2008.

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No, you definitely have an irrational fear. I would definitely consider seeing a specialist to confront this fear if I were you.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 21 15:17:01 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:38:10 2008.

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I predict that on Sunday, December 21, 2008, there will be an automobile crash somewhere within the five boroughs of New York City.

Do you see how stupid that sounds?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 21 15:22:59 2008, in response to Bad Luck for Continental, posted by 9 local on Sun Dec 21 02:38:10 2008.

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My Lincoln Continental has been attacking up lately. Any chance to 2 are related. Do you think that a continental could crash into LucchAAA*s town car. Just a Thought

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:25:42 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 21 15:10:32 2008.

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How can I be rich, if I drove a subway train until a year ago?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:30:36 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 21 15:17:01 2008.

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Not at all. There are far fewer planes in the air, than cars on the road. I posted on Monday that I ran out of JFK when it came time to board, swearing off flying, sensing that something would soon happen. I also had second thoughts on going to Mexico City via Continental, fearing that they were due for a crash.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 15:55:51 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:25:42 2008.

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Believe it or not, there are a couple of T/O's I know who, unless the recent economy wiped them out, were doing quite well financially before they came to the TA. One of them has owned and apartment in the Kennedy House on Queens Blvd since I met him in 1996.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 15:56:46 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:32:34 2008.

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CNN broke in with it last night, probably around 10:30.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:57:09 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 15:55:51 2008.

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I think I know him. Was he in the A division until 2004?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:58:06 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 15:56:46 2008.

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It has been downgraded to a blurb on their site. I guess it's not important.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 15:58:24 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:57:09 2008.

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Yes.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 16:00:57 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 15:58:24 2008.

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I think we're talking about the same guy.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 16:01:52 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 15:30:36 2008.

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It may be an old wives tale but the days immediately after a crash are thought to be the safest days to fly.

I flew to San Diego 3 weeks after 9/11. Never gave it a second thought.

C'mon. Cowboy up. Have a couple of drinks before you board and stop knocking your brains out driving back & forth to Florida.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 16:03:52 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 16:00:57 2008.

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Probably. His father left him a ton of money.

And he still picks through the garbage cans looking for the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal (he hates to pay for newspapers).

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 16:04:11 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 16:01:52 2008.

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Well, the drive can be tough. If I go to www.radiostationworld.com first, and get the frequencies of the radio formats I want, at least I can listen to good radio. But I've done the trip enough times that I kind of know the frequencies already.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 16:06:12 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 16:03:52 2008.

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Yeah. Same guy. He has some good seniority.

What would you consider a "ton" of money? More than $500,000 in cash, stocks, and real estate?

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 21 16:21:26 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 03:17:13 2008.

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I'll be the first to admit I am scared to fly. But realistically, how many people die in auto crashes in this country per year vs. the number of people who die in plane crashes? It's much more dangerous to drive a car, or ride an intercity bus for that matter. There must be a place on the internet for 3 questions to be answered: so far for the year 2008: how many deaths in auto travel?; intercity bus travel?; commercial aviation? Certainly one plane crash could cause those numbers to soar above bus deaths, but the death toll this and every year in auto crashes is in the 5 figure range.

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Re: Bad Luck for Continental

Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 21 16:36:27 2008, in response to Re: Bad Luck for Continental, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 16:06:12 2008.

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Anything that's more than what I have in my "family fortune". ;-)

It's tough to put a number on what a ton is. But he said he was left an inheritance that should take care of him, a single man, for a long time.

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