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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:52:47 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:49:25 2008.

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You posted all these things in here.
Where would I get such detailed information of you like this.
And whats your fascination with my picture?
I thought you were married with a 36 year old son.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:53:42 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:49:50 2008.

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How I am lying, YOU just told me that the photo accounts are free!


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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:53:56 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:52:47 2008.

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I posted what when and proof i posted it ?
lies as usual posted by the TOP LIAR !!



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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 01:54:06 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:41:34 2008.

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Yeah, I remember that. The picture that I took was blurry because you wouldn't stay still! :)

You did give me some good pointers though. Sure post the picture that you took of me. I think that I saw it, but I don't remember.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:55:05 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 01:54:06 2008.

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whoops
sorry easy
ok i will send it to you 1st

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:57:53 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:53:56 2008.

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In here over the years!
In fact when I called you out on these thing you even stated "why don't you post things about yourself in here!" just like your telling me to post pictures of myself now!
You must really be a Narcissist to want to post so much personal info and pictures of yourself like that!

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:58:38 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:57:53 2008.

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In here over the years? where ??
prove it !!
liar !


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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 02:01:17 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:57:53 2008.

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you cant prove nothing
all lies from you

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 27 02:08:19 2008, in response to Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 26 21:27:14 2008.

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They both lost. As I expected.

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 27 02:13:22 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 27 02:08:19 2008.

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I'm looking forward to the VP debate.

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 02:24:10 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 27 02:08:19 2008.

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Yeah. It was no different than Hannity and Colmes constant bickering. Same exact arguments. I could've written the responses.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 02:37:42 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:48:06 2008.

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prove all your lies
proff
and
proff
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or STFU

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Sep 27 04:43:29 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by WillD on Fri Sep 26 22:53:38 2008.

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haha

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 05:39:55 2008, in response to Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 26 21:27:14 2008.

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McCain FAILED to wear an American flag lapel pin last night ... game over, he hates America.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 05:45:37 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 05:39:55 2008.

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LOL. Hey, I saw your photo. You look different than I thought. Really, you look different than you post.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 05:57:04 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 05:45:37 2008.

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I read and post solely for entertainment. I mean ... nobody in their right mind would take this place seriously ... right? :)

I'm an old timey "journalist," radio deejay, and engineering type now stuck in the world of "protecting MS Windows." There are many times I wish I was still anchoring a TV news program ... it was SO much saner and easier being a "Ken doll" in front of tally lights and looking "educated" to a confused audience. And of course, miss the "fan mail" too. Heh.

But what I'm all about is I come here for FUN ... and if it ain't fun, and people can't dance, then I'll toss a grenade over the transom and see what happens. I was quite serious about being politically "middle of the road" but then one sees every day here what happens to a critter in the middle of a road. =)

Unca Selkirk's motto ... "NEVER take life too seriously, and BEWARE of those who do. Moo."

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 06:39:15 2008, in response to Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 26 21:27:14 2008.

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Ben Smith: "The mild consensus in the press file was that McCain won, if not in
particularly dramatic fashion. The two insta-polls out -- from CBS and
CNN -- found the opposite: That Obama won by a wide margin. CBS had it
39% to 25% for Obama, CNN 51% to 38%."

Ezra Klein: "Give McCain this: He did an extremely good stylistic job in an
extremely hard situation. I doubt he could have offered a better
performance. But the polls suggest that undecideds broke hard for Obama
anyway. Which suggests that McCain's problem is what he's saying, not
how he's saying it."

James Fallows: "This is distinctly strange -- if anyone else notices.  Obama is acting
as if this is a conversation; McCain, as if he cannot acknowledge the
other party in the discussion."

Marc Ambinder: "No memorable moments. Fascinating
body language. No major
gaffes by either candidates. No major surprises.

Kevin Drum: "Am I off base, or was this one of the most soporific presidential
debates in a while? Frankly, I didn't think either one of them did very
well. There was way too much rambling, and way too few sharp points.
Overall, McCain was more lively than Obama, but if the point of the
debate was for Obama to show that he could hold his own on national
security, then count it a win for Obama. I wouldn't call him a big
winner, but he certainly did at least as well as McCain, and that might
have been all he needed."




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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:29:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Sep 26 22:30:40 2008.

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McCain already did the first flip-flop (not debating, then changing his mind

That's not a flip flop. Do you REALLY think McCain would have not showed up and had let Obama turn this into a two hour speech? Come now.


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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:57:49 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 26 23:53:14 2008.

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Manhattan is an anormality. You can't apply Manhattan to the rest of the 95% of the country, which has a totally different situation.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:58:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 26 23:59:47 2008.

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But I hate driving in traffic and I would rather sit on a bus


I agree with your first part of the sentence, but the second? Good God, a bus? I HATE buses.


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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 08:01:38 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 27 02:08:19 2008.

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I have to agree. I don't think EITHER did better or worse than the other, but it left us utterly no where.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 08:02:21 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:48:06 2008.

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prove all your lies
proff
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or STFU


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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 08:06:12 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 06:39:15 2008.

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I don't think either did better or worsre than the other. What a waste of time, the country has no better understanding than they did before.

I originally said that I think both "did well". But that also means what I just said, neither did any better or worse than the other.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 08:22:03 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 00:02:07 2008.

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Actually, Steve, Ike sent "advisors" to South Viet Nam in early 1959. You are correct when you said "John F. Kennedy that began the escalation in Viet Nam". There is plenty of blame on both sides in that sorry chapter in our history.

If you look at the American Revolution from the British perspective, our Founding Fathers are traitors.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:25:58 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 08:06:12 2008.

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Heh. Exactly MY take ... then again, as a former journalist (now editor, heh) I kinda think that THIS particular debate (though side-tripped to the economy for a third of it) was McCain's "gloryhole" since his thing has always been "nuke auslanders until they glow" ... gotta admit that for a debate that was supposed to BEAT Obama into submission, he didn't catch fire, fall over, and sink into the swamp.

BOTH were as boring as the damned "Emmy" or "Golden Globs" award shows, but this particular debate should have had Obama looking like an asshole. It failed to do so. In the end, looks like everybody seems to think THEIR guys did well ... so in poker terms, a "push" ...

Ah well ... Palin's up next ... sure hope Katie Kuric falls down a flight of stairs and fails to show. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:26:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:57:49 2008.

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However...I would like to see many suburbs have decent sidewalks (you won't find this much of a problem on LI, but in many other suburbs, this IS a problem).

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:28:06 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:58:54 2008.

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And you wonder why I said rail transit is needed. However, in the case of Metro Philadelphia, a very good plan was shot down by the feds (see Cross County Metro posts on SubChat).

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:31:33 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 06:39:15 2008.

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I watched it on a rerun on CNN in the early AM...it was a doozy.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:33:13 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:31:33 2008.

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But with that said, I believe that they tied, and a tie in the debate would go to Obama, since he was supposedly weaker on foreign issues. If McCain's problem is his actual message, that isn't good news for him.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:34:27 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:26:54 2008.

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Relax ... feds have foisted sidewalks on US here in our village. NOBODY uses them, the two bikers STILL ride in traffic, but I guess the good news is that nobody's gonna wear OUT the sidewalks we now have (at high expense) by USING them. :-\

There's MANY places where people actually NEED to walk - out here where I am is not ONE of them. When maybe four cars per hour in the afternoon come by, no problem hearing them coming, and stepping aside to let them pass.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:35:44 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:25:58 2008.

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Palin and Biden? I think the cow manure boots are available already for EVERYONE involved...if you thought that this was a doozy, get your boots on! This one is shaping up to be a real stinker.

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:35:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 08:01:38 2008.

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Welcome to "instant news" and the utter lack of anything substantial to GET the air time. :(

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 08:36:20 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:25:58 2008.

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Ever get the feeling that the political process is a lot like the hamster in his cage. He runs and runs in his little wheel and gets....nowhere!!!

Then he gets off, eats and goes to sleep. It's fascinating to watch. Once.

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:37:37 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:35:54 2008.

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If only Stewart and Colbert aired on Friday nights...

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:37:57 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:35:54 2008.

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Is this Indecision 2008 or Indigestion 2008?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:39:42 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:29:54 2008.

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Heh. One HAS to wonder, after the commission said "show goes on" and then Obama saying "if McCain doesn't SHOW, then we do ME in a "town hall scene" and that was ACCEPTABLE, what kind of "double dog DARE" McCain collapsed into ... he wanted to do a sequel of "Gustav II" and got CALLED on his shit.

Ummmm ... did that "rescue" get DONE? I thought that was the issue? :)

Amazing what sausage-crafters will do when their dick gets caught in the meatgrinder. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:43:01 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 08:22:03 2008.

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There always IS "mutual B-I-A-S" (K-car slogan) in ANY of this sausage/fudge-packing ... but SOME people wish to attribute it to the OTHER side - my OWN "anything but republicans" is quite personal, and I recognize that it's all because I am *so* pissed off at ... well ... what EVERYBODY ELSE is now pissed off about. :)

But AMUSING how all the "Viet nuts" conveniently forget SEATO ... :(

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 08:47:15 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 26 23:35:59 2008.

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I agree with that statement. I believe that Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld would not have had McCain's ear the way they had Bush's ear.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 08:59:29 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 00:10:30 2008.

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Compared to what city? Compared to a different decade in NYC?

Did you ever think that NYC had decent public transportation?

Your previous statement needs a point of reference.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 27 09:06:04 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 26 22:15:00 2008.

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Too bad you don't have an open mind. Preconceived notions that everything is "sadly for McCain" or "good for Obama" mean you'll come away from the debate learning nothing.

Does that mean that based on the debates you could conceivably vote for Obama, because you do have an open mind?

If so, that would be a chnage from your previous attitude toward Obama on the board.




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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 09:12:48 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 07:29:54 2008.

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I think Obama wanted McCain to show up, actually, and may have been using the refusal to do town hall meetings as a ruse...and McCain went for the bait.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:19:03 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:35:44 2008.

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Heh. Already have those AND "hip waders" ... no thanks - water pressure ain't quite high enough to blow THAT shit off the boots. :)

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:20:41 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:33:13 2008.

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I'm almost as old as McCain ... I'm EMBARRASSED. I still remember where I buried my nuts. :)

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:22:57 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 08:36:20 2008.

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Yeah, but every now and then, they ALSO get to make "NEW Hamster!" (how many electrical college votes they got? heh) ... THAT is sorta more fun to watch, even if the FBI raids your house for watching it. :)

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:24:21 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:37:37 2008.

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Reruns. :(

Now that the "penis contest" is over WRT "Emmies" ... betcha Monday will be to DIE for. Heh. Sorry, ONLY "instant news" I bother with anymore is THOSE GUYS! :)

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Re: Debate shmebate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:25:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate shmebate, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:37:57 2008.

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We'll be right back after THIS important message ...


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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 09:28:17 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:20:41 2008.

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LOL.

Too many ways to run with tat one.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:29:22 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:26:54 2008.

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I would like to see many suburbs have decent sidewalks (you won't find this much of a problem on LI, but in many other suburbs

Perhaps in Nassau, but a "sidewalk" is still more of a rarety in Suffolk, at least middle and eastern.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 27 09:29:41 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:25:58 2008.

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but this particular debate should have had Obama looking like an asshole.

Why is that? He may not have known much about foreign policy on 1/1/2008, but he's had quite a few months to learn. He's a smart guy, after all. No one denies that. You don't get to be a university professor if you can't learn new material quickly.



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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:30:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:28:06 2008.

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Then it comes back to the "you can't have a rail line from every point A to every point B." Not happening. Cars will always be the main mode of transport in most areas, no matter how many rail lines you have.

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