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black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008

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Political correctness gone wild

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 18:33:41 2008, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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Sounds like two people weren't familiar with the term and overreacted. Much like you are doing.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:40:53 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 18:33:41 2008.

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How am I overreacting and how does someone so dumb get elected to public office?

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jul 10 18:48:12 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:40:53 2008.

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its making headlines.

I've already deleted that phrase from my vocabulary to be more tolerant.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 19:14:01 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:40:53 2008.

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You are overreacting by pretending that some conflict in a Dallas council meeting is somehow relevant. Whatever happened there doesn't make "black hole" a racist phrase other than in the minds of the two people that took offense.

As for the dumb part, is it possible that they thought that he said "black ho"? I can see that happening with a southern accent involved.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 20:58:17 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 18:33:41 2008.

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You saying that the people who were "unfamiliar with the term" are that stupid? They knew what they were doing.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 20:58:58 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jul 10 18:48:12 2008.

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What do we call it, then? An "unwhite hole"? The term "dark star" is defunct.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 21:01:40 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 19:14:01 2008.

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No, he's not overreacting. It's relevant because a judge is sticking his nose in it and could set a bizarre precedent. Judges are supposed to be educated. We can't even use descriptive terms for colors in any phrase anymore?

As for the dumb part, is it possible that they thought that he said "black ho"? I can see that happening with a southern accent involved

Bigoted statement on your part. You're fully aware that there was no misunderstanding over the word "hole".

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 21:48:41 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 21:01:40 2008.

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I looked at another source and the guy that was complaining sounds ignorant of what a black hole is. That doesn't mean that we have to give any credence to the opinion of one man just cuz' the story makes it to the internet.

As for the judge, the guy that was told to apologize didn't even do what he said. I don't see any precedent being set. They weren't even in court.





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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:15:32 2008, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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Damn racist astronomers - and now we can't even watch that racist movie.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 22:20:26 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 21:48:41 2008.

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I looked at another source and the guy that was complaining sounds ignorant of what a black hole is

What makes one "sound ignorant"? That's one sharp shovel you're digging that hole with. Commissioner Price is definitely not ignorant insofar as pushing his racist agenda, although he's utterly ignorant insofar as holding onto it. He knows precisely what a black hole is—he's not ignorant of that whatsoever—but he still believes the term to be "racist" in spite of the fact that it is not.

As for the judge, the guy that was told to apologize didn't even do what he said. I don't see any precedent being set. They weren't even in court

It's in the media now. Other sympathetic judges may hear similar cases and try to set legal precedent. The OP was 100 percent correct calling this "political correctness gone wild".

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 22:21:35 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:15:32 2008.

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Soon we won't be able to race cars, horses, or on foot because of too much racism. (It might even get that far, what with the assault on language!)

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by JohnL on Thu Jul 10 22:27:01 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 20:58:58 2008.

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So we can’t use White Dwarf, unfair to light-skinned height challenged stars?

Or Red Giant, unfair to tall native Americans?

And I’m not going near Brown Dwarf. It’s a sub-stellar object. How politically uncorrect can you get?!

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 22:35:13 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 22:20:26 2008.

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That's crazy talk. No one responding on any of the sources on the internet has concurred that "black hole" is racist. There were no laws passed or judicial opinions. You're overreacting to the opinions of two locally elected officials 1,000 miles away.

What makes one "sound ignorant"?

He obviously doesn't know why a black hole is called a black hole. He thinks that it was called black because it's bad instead of being called black because light supposedly can't escape.

He knows precisely what a black hole is—he's not ignorant of that whatsoever—but he still believes the term to be "racist" in spite of the fact that it is not.

Now you're a mind reader?

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Jul 10 22:37:13 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:15:32 2008.

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On that note, Cracker Barrel restaurants should be renamed since it could be misconstrued as being racist to whites. ;-)

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:42:37 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Jul 10 22:37:13 2008.

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Right you are. And from this day on - no more Cracker Jacks - infact no saltines with my chili any more, either.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 10 22:46:31 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Jul 10 22:37:13 2008.

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Ever BEEN to a Cracker Barrel? No misconstuing there. I just wonder how they can get so many crackers INTO the barrel. :)

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:53:43 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 18:33:41 2008.

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How is he overreacting? By simply bringing the issue up?

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 22:54:56 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 22:35:13 2008.

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That's crazy talk. No one responding on any of the sources on the internet has concurred that "black hole" is racist

Maybe they won't. Maybe they will. I didn't say anything in regards to that. Are you "overreacting", or just reading stuff into what I say that is not there?

You like telling people they are making "crazy talk"? That's one sharp shovel you got. How many feet metres deep is your hole now?

He obviously doesn't know why a black hole is called a black hole. He thinks that it was called black because it's bad instead of being called black because light supposedly can't escape

How is it obvious? It was made clear to him what a black hole is, and he still called it racist afterwards. Most likely, he knew what it was before the phrase reached his ears from the white commissioner's mouth. The fact that it was more than one person jumping on the white commissioner bespeaks an obvious racist agenda, OTOH (and if you think that judges are so educationally deficient as to at least be aware that a black hole is a phenomenon that occurs in outer space, then perhaps you ought to re-examine your assessment of the situation).

Now you're a mind reader?

I should have asked you that question when you said that Commissioner Wiley was "obviously . . . ignorant" of the meaning of the phrase "black hole". It's not obvious that Wiley was unaware of what it is. So don't project.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 23:13:26 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:53:43 2008.

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By saying that "black hole" is now a racist phrase just because two guys in Texas think that it is. We have 200 million people in the US that don't think that it's a racist phrase but two people in Texas say that it is and everyone gets all excited.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jul 10 23:20:24 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 10 23:13:26 2008.

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they make a strong point.

Didn't they, or someone else claim the same for angel food cake? I didn't read the whole article, but I saw a version with that headline included.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 23:36:55 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by JohnL on Thu Jul 10 22:27:01 2008.

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Dear me . . . we might have to start identifying colors with the precise wavelength of the color in nanometers! Then they'll go after that! (Right? "How many nm did you say my complexion is??")

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 10 23:42:48 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 23:36:55 2008.

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You bring up an interesting subject. The phenomeno of the electromagentic radiation, and its propogation through the universe through the non-newtonian aether, as we know it. Light is one of the keys to unlocking the enrgies around us. It is heat, it is everything. Though its by product isn't heat.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 23:45:56 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 10 23:42:48 2008.

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Besides the fact that your post is senseless babbling, that is not what I was talking about.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 23:48:47 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 10 23:42:48 2008.

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what is an "ENRGIES"

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 23:56:33 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 23:48:47 2008.

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It's something he made up when inhaling "aether".



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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 11 02:02:10 2008, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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Political correctness has gone too far.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 11 04:16:04 2008, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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Just proves what I always knew. ALL Texans are stupid. Regardless of color.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 11 05:01:48 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 11 04:16:04 2008.

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I'm amazed more people haven't caught onto the stupidity rather than the way this whole thread went ... "no child left behind" was a pathetic answer to typical Tex-ass "edumication" ... hell ... look at the result of it all on a LARGER, FEDERAL scale! :-\

I can't see ANY black person not shaking their head over that one. And NOT agreeing with the pretext ... but leave it to the racists who live HERE to make an issue out of it! Who's dumber? :(

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 11 06:30:45 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 11 02:02:10 2008.

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nope.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 11 07:04:45 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 11 06:30:45 2008.

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stop stalking the guy. When are visiting hours, BTW?

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 11 11:29:28 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 10 20:58:58 2008.

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It's called a singularity.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 11 11:30:42 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by JohnL on Thu Jul 10 22:27:01 2008.

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A brown dwarf is a failed star, it hints that brown people are lazy failures.

/Barbara Streisand

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 11 11:31:26 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 23:48:47 2008.

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Don't feed the moron.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 11 11:33:11 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:42:37 2008.

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Actually, no. Derogatory terms towards caucasians do not inflict the same amount of pain and suffering upon that demographic.

/any idiot African American Studies professor

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 11 11:39:34 2008, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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Obviously, this person has never studied science in his or her life. That this is a racist phrase (which is what I think you meant) is a farce.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 11 11:40:53 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:40:53 2008.

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Dumber people have been elected to office at local, state, national offices on both sides of the aisle...politics these days is more like American Idol (or Idle). "runs for cover"

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 11 12:10:05 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:42:37 2008.

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Hahahahahahahahaha!!! Cracker Jacks!!!
This joke shows how SILLY this Politically correct crap is.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 11 12:38:37 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 11 07:04:45 2008.

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It's gotten to the point where Weinturd disagrees just for the hell of it.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 11 12:45:54 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 11 11:29:28 2008.

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The singularity is at the center of a black hole. Can't have a black hole without an event horizon defining its edge.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Jul 11 13:01:56 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 11 12:45:54 2008.

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This is slightly unrelated, but since a beam of light, theoretically shined from the surface of the black hole, perpendicular to the tangent, cannot escape the gravitational pull, doesn't that mean that light isn't the ultimate speed? That an object enetering it further away would come back to the black hole at a higher speed, UNLESS, the light exits the black hole, but experiences super red shift, meaning the wavelength becomes so long, it is undetectable?

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 11 13:27:32 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Jul 11 13:01:56 2008.

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since a beam of light, theoretically shined from the surface of the black hole, perpendicular to the tangent, cannot escape the gravitational pull, doesn't that mean that light isn't the ultimate speed? That an object enetering it further away would come back to the black hole at a higher speed, UNLESS, the light exits the black hole, but experiences super red shift, meaning the wavelength becomes so long, it is undetectable?

No. And light is not a "speed"; it's a unique form of matter that acts as both particle and wave; forces can and do slow it down, including traveling through matter of different densities. Since it's affected by gravity, then the ray of light cannot travel perpendicular to any tangent line of the event horizon; the path would be parabolic. The light is decelerated and reaccelerated in a different direction (the parabolic path reveals that); at one point, the speed of the actual light is zero.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Jul 11 13:38:23 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 11 13:27:32 2008.

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And yet you say the "ultimate" speed is about 300,000 KM/s, despite these facts?

What i was saying was theoretical. Say a guy is standing on the black hole, and points a laser beam to shine perpendicular to the tangent of the circular black hole, and shines it to outer space. Would this beam of light fall back to the black hole, or simply experience a very dramatic red shift, which creates a wavelength a few thousand meters long from a red laser?

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 11 13:44:06 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 10 22:46:31 2008.

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What a racist restaurant chain that is with a name like that!!

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 11 13:45:32 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 11 12:38:37 2008.

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TGIF

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 11 14:07:58 2008, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 10 22:42:37 2008.

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Oh save me! I'm DYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYING from laughter from those last two.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jul 11 14:29:05 2008, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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I think he's being a bit niggardly with his functional brain cells.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 9 15:13:07 2010, in response to black hole is now a racist phase, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jul 10 18:24:12 2008.

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Yes, this is the most ASININE thing I have seen brought up yet. This TOTALLY discredits the NAACP.

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Re: black hole is now a racist phase

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 9 15:15:48 2010, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phase, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 9 15:13:07 2010.

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Oooops, sorry, I followed a link here from the other thread, and thought I was in the Hallmark Black Hole, I mean Black Ho thread....

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Re: black hole is now a racist phrase

Posted by Alex L. on Wed Jun 9 15:26:51 2010, in response to Re: black hole is now a racist phrase, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri Jul 11 13:38:23 2008.

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From the POV of the guy with the flashlight (because I refuse to talk about people standing on a hole), the flashlight would work as it normally does. From the POV of anyone standing beyond the event horizon of the black hole, the guy, the flashlight and the beam of light would be unseen. It is, as they say, all relative.

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