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Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 10:50:56 2007, in response to Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 10:47:40 2007. It's probably just a talking point. Jihad Mickey's feelings won't subside.The cafe patron do-gooders may change their tune, but who cares about them. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 11:00:18 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 10:50:56 2007. Okay, so that's a no. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 11:03:57 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 11:00:18 2007. Proabably. The Iraq war will be their talking point for the next 1000 years. Unless Mahmoud gets the bomb I suppose. |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:04:35 2007, in response to Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 10:47:40 2007. In Europe, almost certainly. There is an huge well of positive feelings towards the USA here, which Bush has been totally unable to tap. It would be good to have the 'free world' headed up by someone who actually believes in civil liberty, and not just hear the rhetoric of freedom used by a instinctive authoritarian.However, the USA's religiosity will continue to be an obstacle. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 11:13:54 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:04:35 2007. I thank the Europeans for caring about my civil liberties to the point where if I no longer have any, I get blamed and yelled at from new anti-americans. But I don't believe it's the USA's religious "values" that's the problem from what I see a half a dozen times daily in various outlets. |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:43:14 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 11:13:54 2007. 'I thank the Europeans for caring about my civil liberties'Well, I *am* concerned about your civil liberties, but I'm also concerned about mine. I don't think Americans always realise the extent to which, from the perspective of another continent, it simply looks as if America wants to own the world, and rule it according to America's ideas and culture. True freedom must include the right to be different from you - just as I respect your right to be different from us. The American Revolution in 1776 was utterly justified, but now we need a British Revolution so that *we* can gain our independence from the USA, just as you gained your independence from us 230 years ago. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 11:52:59 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:04:35 2007. This entire post is a perfect example of why Europe is on the slow road to doom. Enjoy being part of a 3rd world caliphate ... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 11:54:42 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 11:13:54 2007. It's amusing that a European would be so concerned with a Christian American, but not with a radical Islamic memmber of their own society actively attempting to destroy it from within. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 6 12:06:12 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:04:35 2007. However, the USA's religiosity will continue to be an obstacle.What are the symptoms of this "USA religiosity"? If they are things like the US trying to block the deployment of birth control to third world countries, this is not US religiosity. This is religiosity of the 10% of voters who are nut jobs and have been convinced that the Republican Party is their salvation. They will have less influence under a Democratic president. Or are you thinking of other phenomena? |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Sep 6 12:06:13 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:43:14 2007. I think the continent, and Londonistian should also look east at the caliphate and also to China if one is so worried about anyone owning the world. So many people are preoccupied with very old ideals about American Empire, that they won't see the other two behind them.It'll always be someone trying I suppose. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Sep 6 12:08:24 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 6 12:06:12 2007. Global Warming, stem cells, and evolution.Basically it's a window for Europe and Asia, and Israel to kick us while we're down and strip the rest of our innovation away, and take the lead. Even though I singled out Israel instead of naming the region, the president of Iran and a lot of scholars like to boost about their innovation. Apparently they cured AIDS. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 6 12:09:15 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:43:14 2007. There's still a few of us left here who know exactly what you mean. "Freedom" seems to have some weird interpretations lately. :( |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Thu Sep 6 12:14:35 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 11:54:42 2007. It's amusing that a European would be so concerned with a Christian American, but not with a radical Islamic memmber of their own society actively attempting to destroy it from within.That might say something of the difference in capabilities between an Islamic idiot who doesn't know the difference between the movie explosions and real life ones and a Christian idiot who could cause a global thermonuclear war at the press of a button. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Sep 6 12:23:45 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Rail Blue on Thu Sep 6 12:14:35 2007. I thought it was illegal for Mahmoud to convert to Christianity.Say what you will about Dubya, but even I give him enough credit that he's not going to push the button. If I was backed into a corner and was forced to give him credit for anything. It ain't the christian pilgrams that forced me to take my shoes off, no liquids, and no pictures either. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:36:14 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Rail Blue on Thu Sep 6 12:14:35 2007. That you cannot differentiate between an Islamic suicide bomber and a committed Christian in the White House (if you accept his word on this, and I don't) only magnifies your stupidity. Bush has had his finger on the trigger for almost 7 years. Where's the mushroom cloud? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 12:36:41 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 11:03:57 2007. Well, I would hope that some Iraqis would actually be thankful at some point. Its not like the Crusades, when all Muslims (and Jews) were targets. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 6 12:37:09 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:36:14 2007. Somewhere between Montana and Alabama. =) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:37:46 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by orange blossom special on Thu Sep 6 12:23:45 2007. Another European weakness exposed: the inability to tell real medievil religious fervor apart from simple belief. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:42:27 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 12:36:41 2007. Those living in Anbar province are thankful. As are the Kurds. These people are enjoying their first real era of peace and relative security in generations. Yet the MSM still manages to find some armchair experts who cannot admit that Iraq, though still a mess, is better than it was under Saddam, even better than it was last year. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:15:21 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:04:35 2007. You don't speak for Europe, though. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:16:22 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:42:27 2007. Right, and the Mullahs are not a factor. You left-winger, you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:16:33 2007, in response to Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 6 10:47:40 2007. Nah, nah, nah. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 13:19:02 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:16:22 2007. The mullahs ARE a factor, especially in Anbar, where they've switched from fighting Americans to co-operating with them. Are they doing so because we've won them over? No. But the media could at least trumpet ONE rather undeniable success in Iraq for once, without any "ifs" or "buts". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:20:10 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 13:19:02 2007. The only way to succeed in Iraq is to use the country as a base to pound the Mullahs into oblivion from. |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Sep 6 13:30:11 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:42:27 2007. Anbar? Don't think so. They're throuoghly pissed we took their stranglehold over the country. I will admit though, that once Baghdad is brought under control, the rest of the country really is not in anarchy. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:38:46 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Sep 6 13:30:11 2007. Wrong. Iraq will never be at peace until the Mullahs are destroyed. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:40:00 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 6 11:13:54 2007. I don't believe it's the USA's religious "values" that's the problem from what I see a half a dozen times daily in various outletsCommie propaganda. Doing business with China helps strengthen it. China should be broke and begging the USA for handouts, not the other way around. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:40:46 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 11:52:59 2007. You're still in denial about what's happening in Europe, aren't you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:41:54 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:43:14 2007. I *am* concerned about your civil liberties, but I'm also concerned about mineAre you? Gonna have to leave the EU, or organize a coup d'etat to get the non-democratic EU Commission put out of commission. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:42:32 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by orange blossom special on Thu Sep 6 12:06:13 2007. So many people are preoccupied with very old ideals about American Empire, that they won't see the other two behind themThat's what the other two are counting on. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:44:08 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 6 12:09:15 2007. Freedom isn't defined by the Commie propaganda that wants to (and seems to have succeeded in) dividing this country. This is what we get for dealing with China. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:45:33 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 11:54:42 2007. It's amusing that a European would be so concerned with a Christian American, but not with a radical Islamic member of their own society actively attempting to destroy it from withinThere's no such thing as a "European". Germany uses that in order to make the rest of Europe be willing vassals to them. And Germany's not blind to Islamic terror. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:46:49 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Rail Blue on Thu Sep 6 12:14:35 2007. a Christian idiot who could cause a global thermonuclear war at the press of a buttonMahmoud Ahmadinejad is a "Christian idiot"? (Why did I mention him? He's the only one, apart from his Mullah bosses, that would willingly start a global nuke war.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:48:05 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:37:46 2007. That's a communist influence.And frankly, the rising right wing in all of Europe (not just Germany) is staunchly Catholic. (Yes, that's what I said.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:49:36 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:36:14 2007. Bush has had his finger on the trigger for almost 7 years. Where's the mushroom cloud?Shoulda been in Tehran. 27 years ago. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:51:36 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Fytton on Thu Sep 6 11:04:35 2007. the USA's religiosity will continue to be an obstacleRight; there's absolutely no "religiosity" in Europe. Wake thee up already. Never mind the "religiosity" in the Middle East, of course. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 6 14:24:24 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:36:14 2007. Do you we really want old man Patterson with his finger on the button? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 6 17:50:29 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:40:00 2007. Nobody should be broke and begging for anything. Wealthy and buying things is more like it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Sep 6 19:11:20 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:40:46 2007. As you said, Europe will roast the islamists. |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Sep 6 19:12:55 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:41:54 2007. The europeans are entitled to vote for their OWN good, NOT that of the US, IDIOT. |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Sep 6 19:20:28 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 12:42:27 2007. Dream on, idiot. The sunnis will live in their area and the Shiites will live in theirs and the two will KILL ALL of the Kurds and the US CANNOT do a damned thing about it. After the Kurds are history, the sunnis (al qaida, thanks to bu$h)and the Shia (iran) will compete over who can hit America harder. Saddam kept the lid on in iraq. Face it, the |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 19:50:13 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:20:10 2007. In a perfect world, the sand would be caked with the blood of the mullahs, but we don't live in one. |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Sep 6 19:52:19 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 19:50:13 2007. Not blood, ASH. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 19:54:00 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Sep 6 13:30:11 2007. Yes, Anbar. Perhaps you've not been paying attention. The idiots who we were fighting there just last year have now switched sides and are co-operating with American troops. Big, bad Anbar, the part of Iraq the nay-sayers said was lost forever. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 19:55:08 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:48:05 2007. First sentence, dead on. The rest, not so much. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 6 19:55:51 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 6 14:24:24 2007. WHAT BUTTON? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 6 20:16:28 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 13:48:05 2007. And frankly, the rising right wing in all of Europe (not just Germany) is staunchly Catholic. (Yes, that's what I said.)Well, then you don't have to worry about Germany. West Germany was something like 40% Catholic, but the east is so overwhelmingly Protestant that there is no risk of a heavily Catholic movement becoming a majority in Germany. And by the way except for Poland and the Czech Republic the former Soviet block is hardly Catholic at all. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 20:36:27 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 6 20:16:28 2007. you don't have to worry about GermanyYou are mistaken if you think that Germany's going to be like Northern Ireland. You haven't heard about the shift towards Catholicism away from Protestantism, due to the Protestants being too liberal? except for Poland and the Czech Republic the former Soviet block is hardly Catholic at all To hear Benedict XVI talk, they'd all be Catholic. He's all about healing the schism between himself and Orthodoxy, remember? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 6 20:37:08 2007, in response to Re: Will Anti-US Feelings Decline Once a Democrat is President?, posted by BIE on Thu Sep 6 19:12:55 2007. So you're voting for Europe and against the US, dummkopf? |
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