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Birthright citizenship

Posted by Dand124 on Tue Jun 30 10:35:23 2026

Uppheld by SCOTUS

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 30 10:41:23 2026, in response to Birthright citizenship, posted by Dand124 on Tue Jun 30 10:35:23 2026.

I'm sure a lot of dickless socialist democrats are pleased.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by DaNd124 on Tue Jun 30 11:04:52 2026, in response to Birthright citizenship, posted by Dand124 on Tue Jun 30 10:35:23 2026.

It sounds like 8-1 in favor of birthright citizenship for residents. 4 Justices seem open to restricting birth tourism.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 11:35:22 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by DaNd124 on Tue Jun 30 11:04:52 2026.

Birth tourists are likely to be the upper classes of their societies, and may therefore be a more desirable citizen than the stereotypical “anchor baby.”

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by DaNd124 on Tue Jun 30 11:44:32 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 11:35:22 2026.

It's probobly not a problem if they end up living here but it could be a problem if we end up with a large number US citizens living in China voting by mail with the Chinese government inspecting their ballots before they are submitted. At the very least voting from authoritarian countries should be done in person at a consulate rather than by mail.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 11:56:45 2026, in response to Birthright citizenship, posted by Dand124 on Tue Jun 30 10:35:23 2026.

Repeal the 14 Amendment.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 11:57:18 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 30 10:41:23 2026.

iawtlp

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 12:00:35 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 11:35:22 2026.

And your opinion is?

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 12:04:54 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 11:35:22 2026.

And your opinion is?

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 13:02:23 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 12:00:35 2026.

I haven’t read the decision.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 13:03:56 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 11:56:45 2026.

NO!

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 14:00:10 2026, in response to Birthright citizenship, posted by Dand124 on Tue Jun 30 10:35:23 2026.

Constitutionally, the decision os correct, which is why the 14th Amendment needs to be recorded in order to stop anchor babies.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 14:16:09 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 13:02:23 2026.

LOL

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 14:16:34 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 14:00:10 2026.

No it is not.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 14:16:51 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 13:03:56 2026.

FUCK YOU

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:11:56 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 14:00:10 2026.

I haven't read the opinion, so I don't know, but I agree with you. Assuming, of course, that you define "anchor baby" as the children of tourists, illegals or other "transients" and not the children of permanent residents (green card) or similar.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:13:18 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by DaNd124 on Tue Jun 30 11:44:32 2026.

Interesting.

This would also apply to any citizen who moves abroad, though.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 30 15:23:06 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:11:56 2026.

Entertaining post.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by DaNd124 on Tue Jun 30 15:32:40 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:13:18 2026.

My rules on voting would apply to everyone but in practice the Chinese government taking action against an American raised person with American family and friends would get more attention than someone raised in China with Chinese family who has never lived in this country.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 15:41:52 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 14:00:10 2026.

STUPID AUTOCORRECT!!!!

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:43:30 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 30 15:23:06 2026.

How so?

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 15:54:17 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:43:30 2026.

I take it back, it's not entertaining. It's quite frankly disgusting. Anyone who is for today's disgusting anti American decision. I question your love for my country.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 16:21:00 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 14:16:51 2026.

And the 16th.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jun 30 16:45:50 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by DaNd124 on Tue Jun 30 11:44:32 2026.

it could be a problem if we end up with a large number US citizens living in China voting by mail with the Chinese government inspecting their ballots before they are submitted

There is a 30 day state residency requirement for voting. Birthright citizens have to establish a residence within a state before being allowed to cast a vote. That's difficult to do, if their permanent residence is abroad.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 17:04:51 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 15:54:17 2026.

The decision was pro-American. It upheld the plain meaning of the Constitution against an unlawful executive order.

My country derives its existence and justification from the Constitution and from nothing else. Without it, it does not exist.

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Re: Birthright citizenship?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 17:11:05 2026, in response to Birthright citizenship, posted by Dand124 on Tue Jun 30 10:35:23 2026.

The liberals on that court want to trigger a civil war.

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Re: Birthright citizenship?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 17:23:39 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 17:11:05 2026.

Liberals like Roberts, Barrett, and Kavanagh?

Why am I asking? Of course you consider them liberals.

Why would you accuse the liberals of wanting the civil war when its the conservatives who kicked the hornets' nest and decided to reinterpret over a century and a half of law and jurisprudence on a minor issue related to immigration? Changing birthright citizenship won't prevent immigration, which is the thing you actually oppose.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 17:39:50 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 11:56:45 2026.

Racist post.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 17:42:24 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 15:11:56 2026.

Our country has plenty of immigration controls that can make visiting the US solely for the purpose of giving birth a difficult thing to do.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 17:47:18 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 17:39:50 2026.

How so?

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 17:50:44 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 17:42:24 2026.

It's like voter ID. It's a solution in search of a problem that nevertheless placates people.

The anchor baby problem goes away if illegal immigration is eliminated. Elsewhere in this thread I pointed out that "birth tourism" may actually be beneficial as it selects for high income people.

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 19:38:31 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 17:47:18 2026.

The 14th Amendment provides the fundamental protection for a racial minority. Repeal the 14th Amendment and it stops becoming clear that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is constitutional.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 19:43:05 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 17:50:44 2026.

It's a solution in search of a problem that nevertheless placates people.

It also hurts people. Huge numbers of people with US birth certificates will need to prove their citizenship. Significant numbers could be wrongfully denied citizenship, say if the father was a permanent resident but walked out on the family when the kid was young.

And by the way, do you want to deny citizenship to the children of people who are legally in the country for more than a time-limited visit by authority of an Act of Congress but not permanent residents? There are lots of such people.

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Re: Birthright citizenship?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 30 20:07:04 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 17:11:05 2026.

Iawtlp

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Re: Birthright citizenship?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 30 20:07:08 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 17:11:05 2026.

Iawtlp

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 21:03:44 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 19:43:05 2026.

There are lots of such people.

I said “or similar” for a reason.

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 30 22:22:28 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 30 11:35:22 2026.

What a fucking moronic Thought

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Re: Birthright citizenship

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 30 22:25:41 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 17:42:24 2026.

How would "immigration controls" determine that visiting the US was the sole purpose of giving birth?

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 30 22:31:38 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 14:16:51 2026.

IAWTFU

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Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 1 00:46:40 2026, in response to Re: Birthright citizenship Very Sad Day In America., posted by AlM on Tue Jun 30 19:38:31 2026.

Lo@lm! There are no former slaves alive anymore!

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