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The American Conservative Movement Has Failed
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026 Not that I'd expect most of the people who are still posting here regularly to acknowledge such, but Trump has exposed the American conservative movement for what it truly is. Click here
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Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jan 30 00:29:10 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.* LMAO The Contrarian. You need to rediscover your roots and get the blazes away from Marxism.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Fri Jan 30 07:19:00 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 30 00:29:10 2026.* Ha
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Posted by mtk52983* on Fri Jan 30 07:26:33 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 30 00:29:10 2026.* Define “Marxism”
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Posted by rkba* on Fri Jan 30 07:52:00 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.* author appears to be suffering from crippling end-stage TDS. hard pass.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jan 30 07:59:06 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by rkba on Fri Jan 30 07:52:00 2026.* Jennifer (bili)Rubin is the boss there, the fake conservative from the Washington Compost.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Jan 30 08:12:19 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by rkba on Fri Jan 30 07:52:00 2026.* Spike has many anti-social traits
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Posted by rkba* on Fri Jan 30 08:18:08 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 30 07:59:06 2026.* one must be smoking the best shit around if they believed jennifer rubin is conservative...in any sense of the word.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jan 30 08:20:47 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by rkba on Fri Jan 30 08:18:08 2026.* Kinda like believing that the New York Beobachter Slimes' David Brooks is conservative, merely because they say so. Or the Compost's George Will.
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Posted by rkba* on Fri Jan 30 08:24:00 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 30 08:20:47 2026.* george will, the OG lolbertarian. at least kramer found him attractive.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Jan 30 08:26:22 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.* Sorry, spike but if slug liberals like you must resort to reading used toilet paper to validate your leftist thinking, I'd have to think that American Conservatism is alive and well and keeping you miserable.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Fri Jan 30 08:27:25 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 30 07:59:06 2026.* Hahahahaahahahaha bilirubin Haahahahhahahahaahha
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Posted by rkba* on Fri Jan 30 08:31:49 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jan 30 08:26:22 2026.* the slurry of attacks on conservatism gets pettier and more banal by the day...that's how you know it's thriving.
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Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed
Posted by Catfish 44* on Fri Jan 30 08:33:09 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by rkba on Fri Jan 30 07:52:00 2026.* Hard pass is right.
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Fri Jan 30 08:48:52 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.*
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Fri Jan 30 11:57:07 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.*
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Mon Feb 2 09:35:10 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.* I'd argue that the "responses" to my post only serve to prove my point. Instead of even the most basic intellectual defenses of conservatism, all I got was insults, chestbeating, and one meme.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Feb 2 10:33:19 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 2 09:35:10 2026.* And you expected what? A few years ago you might have gotten reasoned replies from some of the lawyers who were or are on this board. But they have to be ultra-cautious now. Not a lawyer, but a reporter I know told me that being publicly associated with a political point of view can now be a "career ending" move.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Feb 2 10:37:04 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.* You are quoting from a source called The Contrarian? LOL. Might as well have quoted from the hens on The View. I do agree that there are several facets of the Conservative Movement that have not resonated with the American people. But if that is the definition of "failure", then the Progressive/Woke/Liberal movement has failed too.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Feb 2 13:20:53 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 2 10:33:19 2026.* I don't think that's it. It's that modern American conservatism is just so indefensible that the only people who would rise to defend it are only capable of "insults, chestbeating, and one meme." Anyone who is more intellectually-inclined has long since abandoned the movement.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Feb 2 16:14:10 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 2 10:37:04 2026.* I do agree that there are several facets of the Conservative Movement that have not resonated with the American people Name them.
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Tue Feb 3 10:07:39 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 2 10:33:19 2026.* Not a lawyer, but a reporter I know told me that being publicly associated with a political point of view can now be a "career ending" move. I don't think many of the "conservatives" posting here who have turned this place into a right wing cesspool for the most part have to worry about job prospects, based on their own statements about the life stage they are in.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Feb 3 13:37:32 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 3 10:07:39 2026.* A right wing cesspool, Spike? You still enjoy your time splashing in the pool, don't you?
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Feb 3 14:15:36 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 3 13:37:32 2026.* He's in a left-wing cesspool. Hip-deep, too.
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Posted by AlM* on Tue Feb 3 14:32:25 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 3 10:07:39 2026.* I'm saying that some conservatives who no longer post here or drastically restrict their posting may have done so for career reasons.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Feb 3 14:36:15 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 2 16:14:10 2026.* 1. Tariffs against traditional allies; 2. Trimming benefits like Social Security and Medicare 3. Embracement of racist far right figures like Fuentes and Tucker Carlson; 4. ICE enforcement against people with no criminal records who are in the process of obtaining citizenship.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Feb 3 14:43:30 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 3 14:36:15 2026.* Your Maoist side is showing once more. Those are four liberal lies. Nobody on the right has "embraced" either Qatarlson or Ghey Fuentes; those that claim to be on the right and have done so are left wingers themselves. And you really spew the communist lies against ICE?? Just go away.
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Wed Feb 4 10:26:48 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 3 13:37:32 2026.* Take a look at who posts here less frequently and not at all. Take a look at who is still posting frequently. Notice anything?
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Wed Feb 4 10:27:34 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jan 30 08:26:22 2026.* Do conservatives read anything outside of what the cult leader tells them to?
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Wed Feb 4 11:03:03 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 10:26:48 2026.* What are you trying to say, spike?
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Wed Feb 4 11:04:37 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 10:27:34 2026.* What cult are you referring to, spike? What leader are you referring to, spike?
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Feb 4 13:15:09 2026, in response to The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 30 00:04:06 2026.* I think you need to distinguish between "conservatives" and "right wingers." Same as the difference between liberals and leftists. There are many valid and significant differences between center-left and center-right that can be argued without calling the other side an idiot.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Feb 4 13:41:11 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 10:27:34 2026.* Lol, what do you mean by that? Are you just upset that we normal people recognize a leftist cultist when we see one? Katherine Stewart is formerly of the Village Voice and the New York Beobachter Slimes. Don't expect normal people to see her as credible in any way and not a hardcore Marxist radical. Just stop already.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Feb 4 13:46:47 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 10:26:48 2026.* Some of your old commie comrades have passed on. Maybe it's time you stopped being a useful idiot. The left whose BS you are peddling hate Jews and Israel and want to see it destroyed. And yes, Tucker Qatarlson, Mandace Owens and Prick Fuentes are on the left, just to put that on the record if you suddenly feel an urge to throw them in there as some kind of red herring.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Feb 4 13:53:56 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 4 13:15:09 2026.* There is no difference between "liberals" and "left-wingers". None whatsoever. Those words/phrases have been synonyms since the end of WWII at least. As for certain folk that the left/liberals insist are "right wingers", if they exhibit actual antisemitism or racism, then those "right wingers" are actually left-wingers. Enough with repeating the same filthy lies, OK?
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Wed Feb 4 13:54:02 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 2 09:35:10 2026.* Most of us have have more important things to do or have little time, or less time to attempt to reason with people who have gotten completely unreasonable. It's like pissing into the wind. Silence doesn't mean "defeated" or given up, but instead value their time more. While I really don't have the time I used to, I also have little interest in attempting to debate with people with severe TDS, where it's completely taken over their entire lives. And I don't mean here necessarily,as I don't read much here anymore (due to time constraints), I have see it everywhere, seemingly normal people completely consumed in their hate and utter irrational thought of the current administration. There is NO way they will convert me in their endless rants, every day, which took over their lives, and it's fruitless for me to waste energy on them anymore either, as there's no way they will listen even if a real point is made. It's too far gone at this point. So think what you will, but we are still here, but have better things to do than to even attempt to challenge the relentless obsession. So don't relax to much, we aren't defeated, we just have better use of our time than to deal with this obsession may on the left have.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Wed Feb 4 13:55:10 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 4 13:46:47 2026.* Lest we fail to mention the unlawful leftist nazi checkpoints in Minneapolis where you are asked to prove that you are not ~~a jew~~ a member of ICE.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Feb 4 13:56:02 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 4 13:54:02 2026.* I also have little interest in attempting to debate with people with severe TDS You can let him know that you mean him.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Feb 4 14:01:52 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 30 07:26:33 2026.* Is your name Nilet?
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Wed Feb 4 14:42:50 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 30 07:26:33 2026.* Define a woman, karanji
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Feb 4 15:01:22 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 4 13:15:09 2026.* The author believes that the main principles of American conservatism inexorably lead to Trump. I don't agree only because Trump has a more interventionist streak than a true conservatives. Tariffs haven't been conservative for decades, it's something that Bernie Sanders would have supported to "protect domestic manufacturing." What we have now is "MAGA Maoism."
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Wed Feb 4 17:36:35 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 30 07:26:33 2026.* Define a woman, karanji
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Wed Feb 4 23:51:09 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Feb 4 13:55:10 2026.* WTF?
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Wed Feb 4 23:51:58 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 4 13:46:47 2026.* Typical knee jerk reaction from you. Do you even take yourself seriously? Get help...
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Wed Feb 4 23:55:33 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 4 15:01:22 2026.* I see plenty of right wingers who have suddenly become proponents of tariffs or whatever else Trump is spouting off about on any given day.
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Wed Feb 4 23:56:30 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 4 13:53:56 2026.* You wouldn't be so desperate to brand right wingers such as Tucker Carlson as left wingers if you didn't know the accusations hold water. Seek help.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Thu Feb 5 00:30:46 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 23:51:09 2026.* What am I saying that ypu do not understand? Illegal fascist left-wing take-overs of municipal land is neither rare nor lawful.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Feb 5 02:38:14 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 23:51:58 2026.* And what do you come back with? Yup, Soviet psychiatry. Typical to call specificity a "knee-jerk reaction" too. Please try to gather your brain cells together and figure out why normal people refuse to take people like Katherine Stewart and Jennifer Rubin seriously.
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH* on Thu Feb 5 08:38:21 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed?, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Feb 5 00:30:46 2026.* I haven't heard of such a thing happening, but the right to protest and peacefully assemble is guaranteed by the Constitution. Conservatives still abide by the Constitution, no?
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Feb 5 09:09:38 2026, in response to Re: The American Conservative Movement Has Failed, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Feb 4 23:55:33 2026.* True, but that doesn't make tariffs a conservative thing. Not everything MAGA, nor everything Trump, is conservative.
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