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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 17:33:20 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 14:50:38 2025. Mamdani specifically denies your interpretation.And you've never heard British socialists go on about class differences and conflict? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 18:10:45 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 17:33:20 2025. Of course he denies it. He knows that “communist” is used pejoratively. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 11 19:31:18 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 14:17:05 2025. I'm still waiting for a link where Mamdami says he will pay compensation and where this $$$ will come from |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 19:37:59 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 18:10:45 2025. He denies it and no one else seems to have provided any evidence to the contrary. Calling him a communist without evidence is pure Mccarthyism. Without evidence, he is a plain old pinko socialist (and proud of it). |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 19:40:48 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 11 19:31:18 2025. Ah, now you're getting to practicalities. There is no way in hell Mamdani, as mayor, could dredge up the money to pay for any of his proposals. That would require cooperation, which won't be available, from the NY Legislature and Governor. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 20:12:00 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 19:37:59 2025. It’s not McCarthyism to call someone a communist when they espouse communistic philosophy. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 20:21:10 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 20:12:00 2025. But he doesn't subscribe to the items that are communism and not socialism, that anyone has been able to point to.- Non-democratic power structure - Seizing assets without compensation (the fact that he doesn't have the money to provide compensation is irrelevant - there have been any number of unrealistic socialists) - Suppression of opposing views |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 11 20:44:52 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 19:37:59 2025. What does Mamdani mean when he talks about "affordable housing"?Probably not the scenarios I have predicted but I'd like to know his plans. He also talks about city-owned supermarkets. I'm not sure if this is to keep prices down or to address the "food desert" topic Democrats talk about. Or both? As Democrats gain power, they probably will want to eliminate for-profit supermarkets and replace them with food pantries. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 21:06:49 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 20:21:10 2025. Communists don’t consider the power structure to be “non-democratic”, it’s only the rest of us who correctly describe it as non-democratic. That’s why they called it the “German DEMOCRATIC Republic.”He’s only running for mayor, so he knows he’s not nationalizing anything in the city, but he wishes that the state or federal government would nationalize more things. The online left, which Mamdani is a product of, is spectacularly illiberal. Their method of suppressing opposing views is by claiming that things are “hate speech” or are “microägressions” or “triggering”. |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Jul 11 21:13:25 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 11 20:44:52 2025. the city-owned supermarket will be enforcing city-made rules on what people can eat.in other words, bread lines. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 21:13:55 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 11 20:44:52 2025. He once recorded a video for the Gravel Institute where he praised the social housing model established in Vienna after WWI.He also wore traditional Indian garb in that video, making him look exotic and foreign, because that kind of woke left audience appreciates “authentic voices” from the “Global South.” Of course, now he dresses like a normal American person in all of his mayoral campaign videos. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 22:21:14 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 21:06:49 2025. The online left, which Mamdani is a product of, is spectacularly illiberal. Their method of suppressing opposing views is by claiming that things are “hate speech” or are “microägressions” or “triggering”.I agree. But this is quite different from advocating the imprisonment of people (or actually imprisoning them) for having opposing views. Hard core members of the CPUSA in the 1930s actually defended Stalin's actions. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 22:23:21 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 21:13:55 2025. He once recorded a video for the Gravel Institute where he praised the social housing model established in Vienna after WWI.I Googled that and it sounds like classic socialism. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 22:24:52 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 11 20:44:52 2025. What does Mamdani mean when he talks about "affordable housing"?Government-owned housing. In other words, socialism. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 12 08:48:32 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 22:21:14 2025. A person doesn't have to employ every aspect of communism to be a communist |
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Posted by rkba on Sat Jul 12 09:24:47 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 12 08:48:32 2025. good luck explaining that to al, our resident fucktard. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 12 10:30:38 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 12 08:48:32 2025. The tenets of communism include those of socialism. But they go further, to things like putting the opposition into prison camps and worse.So far, no one has been able to point out any major political view that Mamdani supports that wasn't also supported by Prime Minister Clement Attlee of the UK. Calling someone a communist just because they are a misguided socialist is McCarthyism. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 12 10:53:32 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 12 10:30:38 2025. No, that’s not what the tenets of communism include. Stalinism isn’t the only form of communism.Clement Attlee didn’t talk about class consciousness or seizing the means of production. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 12 11:32:17 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 12 10:53:32 2025. Clement Attlee didn’t talk about class consciousness or seizing the means of production.Whether Clement Attlee talked about it or not, he seized certain of the means of production. The owners of the coal mines and steel mills had no choice. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 12 11:34:29 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 12 11:32:17 2025. As an aside, note that the 4th Amendment doesn't prohibit seizures, just unreasonable seizures. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 13 00:40:34 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 12 08:48:32 2025. Exactly. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 14 16:15:48 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 12 11:34:29 2025. And if course that would make you be able support a communist? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jul 14 16:46:46 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 15:53:16 2025. Why are you arguing with him? He's nuts! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 14 17:21:48 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jul 14 16:46:46 2025. A poster who doesn't know what satire is is giving mental health advice to one who goes around screaming about turds.And that's the tamest examples. Whatta thread. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 14 17:58:15 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 14 16:15:48 2025. No, I don't support socialists or communists.I just call out the McCarthyites who call Mamdani a Communist without evidence. Which is not to say that there is no evidence. Just that no one has shown it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 14 23:15:56 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 14 17:58:15 2025. No one posted about Cuomo.Officially announced he is running. |
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