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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jun 13 15:49:19 2025, in response to Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 15:15:21 2025. This must be very exciting for you, so the left can see and remember what "carpetbombing" actually means versus a door to door search. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 13 15:57:49 2025, in response to Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 15:15:21 2025. You must be so proud. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 13 16:10:08 2025, in response to Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 15:15:21 2025. And your opinion is? |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 13 16:10:33 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 13 15:57:49 2025. Are you? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 13 17:27:27 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 13 16:10:08 2025. He's on the Mullahs' side. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 13 17:42:18 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 13 16:10:33 2025. Of course I’m not proud that some of the Iranian missiles are getting through. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 13 18:54:02 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 13 17:27:27 2025. He can speak for himself. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 13 19:19:23 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 13 18:54:02 2025. Nothing wrong with a preview. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jun 13 20:54:57 2025, in response to Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 15:15:21 2025. Wow, you sound so excited. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 23:19:26 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jun 13 20:54:57 2025. Concerned is the adjective. The cousins of my generation are all gone but their children and grandchildren live in Tel Aviv and Ramat Gan where missiles exploded. Another branch lives near Haifa but the damage isn't as extensive.It would appear that a greater percentage of Iranian missiles and drones are penetrating Israel's Iron Dome than a year ago. This may be partly due to the Trump administration providing just limited support in anti-missile defenses. That defense has been limited to protecting US assets like military bases and naval ships rather than protecting Israel. That's a stark difference from the support given during the Biden administration. The Trump administration has sought to distance itself from Israel's attack. There's been faint praise but no follow up in commitments for resupplying Israel should the retaliation drag on. A war of attrition should be a big concern. The Iran-Iraq war lasted 8 years. The Iranians do have staying power. Israel hasn't endured a war of attrition because its military analysts believe they would lose such a war. That's why they have concentrated on massive first strikes. The military analyst on the webinar that I was listening suggested the best outcome would be for a quick cease fire and an agreement with Iran that Trump has been urging. That's not going to happen. Iran has indicated they have suspended negotiations with the US. Israel's problem is that there are plenty of civilian targets in Israel for Iran to hit but there are not many more leadership people left in Iran to target. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Jun 14 07:52:42 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 23:19:26 2025. Israel’s major issue is that they've proclaimed to the citizens of Iran that the Israelis are not seeking war with the citizens of Iran. This limits their options to military targets. While Israel could lay seige to Tehran and level it, they seem to have precluded that action by their political goals.Then again, if Israel did level Tehran, the democrats would declare war against Israel. As is, just one democrat has vocally supported israels need to act. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Jun 14 09:19:19 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Jun 14 07:52:42 2025. just one democrat has vocally supported israels need to act.Aljazeera found more Democrats who have vocally supported Israel's attack. The also found some Republicans who strongly opposed it. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/14/drop-israel-how-military-escalation-with-iran-divides-trumps Perhaps, you should include less biased sources in your reading list. :=) Consider this reaction from a Republican Congressman: Israel doesn’t need US taxpayers’ money for defense if it already has enough to start offensive wars. I vote not to fund this war of aggression. Israel's prospects for surviving a war of attrition become less likely, as this attitude gains support among Trump's MAGA isolationist base. You should look at the link to the Pew Research poll in the Aljazeera article, to see where US public opinion is heading among the US population. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jun 14 11:39:50 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Jun 14 09:19:19 2025. If you think Pew or Aljazeera are capable of reporting accurately I have a bridge that was recently hit by a boat to sell you. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Jun 14 15:16:03 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jun 14 11:39:50 2025. If you think Pew or Aljazeera are capable of reporting accuratelyMr. T Dude's impression, from his news sources, was that only 1 Democrat vocally supported supported Israel's need to act. That was inaccurate. The Aljazeera article provided linked quotes from several Democrats supporting Israel's actions. Only if those cited did not actually make those statements, then Aljazerra's reporting would have been inaccurate. I would have thought Israel's many supporters on this forum would be cheered by finding out that more people support Israel's actions. Do you find the source of that support to be more important than the support itself? All media have biases. Those biases are usually expressed by which stories they cover, not fabrication and inaccuracy. You won't find fault with the accuracy of what appears in Aljazerra. You might find its story selection unsettling. You shouldn't confuse the two. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 14 15:18:26 2025, in response to Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jun 13 15:15:21 2025. IS IT TRUE PAKASTAN IS NOW INVOLVED ??WILL CHINA RUSSA ALSO JUMP IN ? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Jun 14 19:46:20 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 14 15:18:26 2025. IS IT TRUE PAKASTAN IS NOW INVOLVED ??Depends on what is meant by involvement. Pakistan has condemned Israel's attack, called for UN Security Council action, a united Muslim front, etc. You may be referring to this article? French Analyst Alleges Pakistani Role in Assisting Iran’s Air Defense Recovery Post-Israeli Strikes https://jknewspoint.com/?p=12088 There have been several re-tweets on "social" media. I have not been able to listen or read a transcript of M. Marrot's statement, so I don't know its context. It is an object lesson of how something can spread without verification. There are several sources that have reported more reliable information. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Jun 14 23:35:40 2025, in response to Re: Iran Currently Attacking Israel (3pm edt), posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jun 14 11:39:50 2025. Is that Buydens gaza pier you are selling as new? |
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