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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 9 22:41:48 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 9 21:30:50 2020.

???

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Re: I Don't Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 9 22:44:42 2020, in response to Re: I Don't Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 9 19:29:11 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: I Don't Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 10 02:44:19 2020, in response to Re: I Don't Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 9 22:44:42 2020.

Figures

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:21:02 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 9 20:18:28 2020.

I'd have a constitutional lawyer interpret, not a couple of subway foamers.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:29:19 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 9 20:20:06 2020.

The definition has changed over time. It is no longer 1789. There is this thing called the Militia Act of 1903.

- Naval Guard & Militia
- Reserve Militia (male 17 - to 44) IF "are ultimately eligible to be CALLED UP into military service"
- State Defense Force

You foamers do NOT fit any of those categories. The Pentagon has not called you.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:33:03 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 9 19:27:43 2020.

I posted that above. You don't fit any of those categories, not even the "Unorganized" Militia because you have never been called up (or will be).

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:33:54 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 9 21:30:50 2020.

You mean DISregarding ?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:24:24 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:21:02 2020.

Do you mean an attorney and someone who worked in the CJS for decades?

Don't be mad because you're wrong. And don't you fret, if the shit ever hits the friend, you can hide behind me for protection, I'll take care of you.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:24:43 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:21:02 2020.

Do you mean an attorney and someone who worked in the CJS for decades?

Don't be mad because you're wrong. And don't you fret, if the shit ever hits the fan, you can hide behind me for protection, I'll take care of you.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 10 08:25:33 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:21:02 2020.

You do realize Spider-Pig is a lawyer

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:26:27 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:29:19 2020.

Actually, I can carry anywhere in the U.S. and it's territories. So yes, I AM protected. However, so should everyone else.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 08:52:51 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:26:27 2020.

We are talking about Militia membership, not gun ownership. But then how to interpret 2nd amendment, since if conflates the 2 issues in one, or they would have been separate amendments to start with.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 08:55:42 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 10 08:25:33 2020.

Not a constitutional one, obviously.

Neither is Alan Dershowitz. He's a professor who likes to make his student's head spin. Other than that, he's an appellate lawyer. Urologists don't do colonoscopy.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:58:07 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 08:52:51 2020.

Shall not be infringed.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 09:01:31 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:58:07 2020.

Except now Miltia has a more formal meaning, unless you are in one of those mountain region skinhead groups running around with rifles in fatigues.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 10 09:27:38 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 08:26:27 2020.

1. The U.S. is not territories.

2. Good luck if you try to carry a weapon that fires repeatedly while you hold down the trigger (evidently it is not cool to refer to this as a "machine gun").




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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:05:03 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:33:03 2020.

The unorganized militia has nothing to do with being called up. It exists even though the government has never needed it.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:06:32 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 10 09:27:38 2020.

There is a thing called a “machine gun” but it is not what you describe. What you describe is called an “automatic rifle.”

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:08:21 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 09:01:31 2020.

Militia has the same meaning it always had.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 10:12:28 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:08:21 2020.

No.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 10:14:23 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:05:03 2020.

You are grasping straws now. The 1903 act is quite clear.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:17:24 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 08:55:42 2020.

How do you know? Do you even know what a "Constitutional lawyer" is? Your metaphor of the urologist fails because medical licensing requires specialty, attorney licensing doesn't. A urologist is actually prohibited from doing a colonoscopy. I'm allowed to argue whatever I'm asked before the Supreme Court.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:17:46 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 10:12:28 2020.

Just because you say so?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:18:42 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 10:14:23 2020.

I've posted the citation to the 1903 act and it is quite clear that the unorganized militia is EVERY MALE within the given age range. No caveats.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttiplug

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 10 10:52:30 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 07:21:02 2020.

Aren't you a subway foamer?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttiplug

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:54:07 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttiplug, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 10 10:52:30 2020.

PWN3D!

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:19:41 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:17:46 2020.

Because you have obviously not read the 1903 act.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:20:36 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:17:24 2020.

Yes I do. But one can pretend to be, like you and Dershowitz.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttiplug

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:20:53 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttiplug, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 10 10:52:30 2020.

No.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:21:45 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 10:18:42 2020.

UPON CALLING - you missed that part. You have NOT been called.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 11:50:17 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:19:41 2020.

I obviously have read 10 U.S.C. § 246(a) and unlike you, I understand it.

As for the "1903 act," its text has been modified by subsequent legislation, and your continued reference to it is laughable.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 11:52:00 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:20:36 2020.

Or like you are pretending to be. If your claim is that I'm not a Constitutional lawyer (again, how do you know?) and therefore that makes me unqualified to argue this point, how the fuck are you qualified to argue this point?

You're making an appeal to authority that you yourself lack.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 11:54:26 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 11:21:45 2020.

(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
10 U.S.C. § 246.

Please indicate where "upon calling" is written or implied.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 10 11:58:46 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 7 12:53:39 2020.

"the old ones are still shown on a few channels in syndication."

It vanished from LaffTV the next day. I was watching them and enjoyed them.
I haven't seen her face at all since then.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 10 11:59:34 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 9 22:41:48 2020.

Why do you need question marks for? You so senile at your age that you forgot his promise of doing a quid pro quo during a campaign speech?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 10 12:32:06 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 10 09:27:38 2020.

Thanks for the lesson! I had no idea!

I was gonna school you, but SP just did.

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Pete Buttigieg: decriminalize all drugs, including heroin and meth

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 10 12:48:29 2020, in response to I Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 7 07:42:29 2020.

eom

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Re: Pete Buttigieg: decriminalize all drugs, including heroin and meth

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 13:03:05 2020, in response to Pete Buttigieg: decriminalize all drugs, including heroin and meth, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 10 12:48:29 2020.

Really? I agree with that.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 17:26:09 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 11:54:26 2020.

https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_127A/Article_6.pdf

I'll word it differently. Unless and until ordered out by the government, it is a meaningless designation because it gives you no rights and powers as such.


§ 127A-88. Manner of ordering out unorganized militia.
The Governor shall, when ordering out the unorganized militia, designate the number. The Governor may order them out either by calling for volunteers or by draft. The Governor may attach
them to the several organizations of the North Carolina National Guard, the State defense militia or naval militia, as may be best for the service.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 17:41:22 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 17:26:09 2020.

I don't live in North Carolina.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 17:48:28 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 17:41:22 2020.

Point is, it is not universal.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 17:49:13 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 17:48:28 2020.

What isn't universal? I posted the FEDERAL LAW regarding the FEDERAL militia. North Carolina law is completely irrelevant.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 18:07:13 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 17:49:13 2020.

Interesting description showing it is a meaningless designation that gives you nothing:

DESCRIPTION:
Created by the Militia Act of 1903, the Unorganized Militia consists of every able-bodied American male between 17 and 45 years of age who are not members of the National Guard or Naval Militia. Unorganized Militias have no rights, and receive no funding from state or federal governments. Members have no responsibility whatsoever, until the President makes the decision to use the manpower for military purposes.


https://www.endoapparel.com/unorganized-militia-logo-hat/

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 18:12:12 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 18:07:13 2020.

It is hardly meaningless. It is the basic definition of militia, and is the "militia" contemplated in the Second Amendment. Which is why the definition was brought up. You had claimed that the militia was the National Guard.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 18:17:53 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 18:12:12 2020.

No I never meant to say militia = National Guard.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 18:20:13 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 18:17:53 2020.

Fair enough, but the mass of armed citizens is still the militia contemplated in the Second Amendment.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 18:24:17 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 10 18:20:13 2020.

I know that. But given their effectively powerless and meaningless nature, that is subject to argument.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 11 02:09:11 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 10 18:24:17 2020.

you're an amazing man.

You and Jay0, clearaspect, Fred G, Tony G, Spider, mtk666, say nothing about the Jacksonville attempted murder at GOP voter registration and nothing about the fact another NYPD cop shooter was taken into custody alive.



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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 05:01:27 2025, in response to I Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 7 07:42:29 2020.

bump

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 18 11:36:16 2025, in response to I Like Pete Buttigieg, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 7 07:42:29 2020.

WHAT DID SHE DO ??

NOTHING

TIME TO PUT A REAL MAN IN CHARGE !!!!!

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