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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 24 20:01:06 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 18:46:27 2024.

Some states are stupid.
A medical emergency is a Medical emergency, period.

The Problem with some people making these decisions,are thinking "they are doing the moral, ethical thing".. from a safe distance.


These people don't have Your best interest in mind.
They only want to control people,there movements..

We don't need anyone trying to "guide us", when they themselves are wearing sheep's clothes.
They have no real interest in saving lives.
They only want to see the chaos such decisions cause, and the lives that might be at risk.

While I am against "abortion",I am not a fool.
A Medical condition that poses a risk to the mother..well,the mother should be taken care of..
The child,if viable, should be saved...

Late trimester abortion is a "hell no" situation unless there is no choice.

My view..my opinion.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 24 20:01:36 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 18:46:27 2024.

Some states are stupid.
A medical emergency is a Medical emergency, period.

The Problem with some people making these decisions,are thinking "they are doing the moral, ethical thing".. from a safe distance.


These people don't have Your best interest in mind.
They only want to control people,there movements..

We don't need anyone trying to "guide us", when they themselves are wearing sheep's clothes.
They have no real interest in saving lives.
They only want to see the chaos such decisions cause, and the lives that might be at risk.

While I am against "abortion",I am not a fool.
A Medical condition that poses a risk to the mother..well,the mother should be taken care of..
The child,if viable, should be saved...

Late trimester abortion is a "hell no" situation unless there is no choice.

My view..my opinion.

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(1995805)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 24 20:40:28 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 18:46:27 2024.

Naturally, the health of the mother is paramount. 3d trimester abortions to save the life of the mother or child or both is totally acceptable IMO.
What I find repulsive is a healthy woman who suddenly decides that she dont want the child in her 8th month and agrees to a partial birth abortion where the baby is murdered.
You'd think she never heard of the adoption option

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(1995806)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 20:43:29 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 24 20:40:28 2024.

What I find repulsive is a healthy woman who suddenly decides that she dont want the child in her 8th month and agrees to a partial birth abortion where the baby is murdered.

I agree it is repulsive. However, I really doubt that there are more than a handful of doctors in the country who would perform such an abortion.




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(1995808)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 24 20:56:13 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 20:43:29 2024.

Good!

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(1995814)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 24 22:20:29 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 18:46:27 2024.

Some states are stupid.
A medical emergency is a Medical emergency, period.

The Problem with some people making these decisions,are thinking "they are doing the moral, ethical thing".. from a safe distance.


These people don't have Your best interest in mind.
They only want to control people,there movements..

We don't need anyone trying to "guide us", when they themselves are wearing sheep's clothes.
They have no real interest in saving lives.
They only want to see the chaos such decisions cause, and the lives that might be at risk.

While I am against "abortion",I am not a fool.
A Medical condition that poses a risk to the mother..well,the mother should be taken care of..
The child,if viable, should be saved...

Late trimester abortion is a "hell no" situation unless there is no choice.

My view..my opinion.

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(1995822)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:13:44 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 24 17:46:49 2024.

You and other Republicans keep bringing up this as a red herring.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:14:56 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 24 20:43:29 2024.

Exactly.

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(1995824)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:16:02 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:14:56 2024.

And I should add that it’s not like Republicans are OK with banning abortion only after 24 weeks or something or even a shorter period; they want to ban it outright, and have in some states.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:16:17 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 24 20:56:13 2024.

???

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(1995831)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:20:40 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 24 15:33:33 2024.

Except that RFB isn’t opposed to vaccination because of religion. Back when it was just religious exemptions, it wasn’t a big problem.

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Re: RFK Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 00:37:39 2024, in response to Re: RFK Is A Mensch, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 09:41:23 2024.

It's an amazing thing. Most of these people are such looney idols they will go it alone to get 0.005% of the vote just to feed their egos.
And here we have someone who sees it's better to communicate and and form a relationship to get something.

How novel!





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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 25 07:14:59 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 18:32:32 2024.

The Democratic party betrayed their values years ao

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Re: RFK Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 25 08:20:42 2024, in response to Re: RFK Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 00:37:39 2024.

Very good post.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 25 08:21:04 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 21 20:14:55 2024.

LOL

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 09:26:28 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:16:17 2024.

Good that there are very few doctors that will perform late term/partial birth abortions just for convenience and not medically required.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 09:27:48 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 00:13:44 2024.

I'm a registered independent.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 10:10:44 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 09:26:28 2024.

Elective abortions are simply NOT done after viability. Period. The (extremely) few late term abortions that are done are medically necessary to protect a woman's life.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 10:24:35 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 25 07:14:59 2024.

LOL!

The Democratic Party is the one party that still holds its values in 2024.

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(1995855)

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 10:31:30 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 10:10:44 2024.

This is simply false.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 10:32:09 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 09:27:48 2024.

Yes, and at various times I was a registered Republican but I was always a Democrat.

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(1995865)

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:10:42 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 10:24:35 2024.

OMG! That's a laugh! Neither party is.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:13:56 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:10:42 2024.

Which values did Hubert Humphrey hold that Kamala Harris does not?

Or Walter Mondale?



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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:21:33 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:13:56 2024.

Who knows?

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:38:51 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:21:33 2024.

Exactly. The Democratic Party by and large still holds the same values as it did 40 and 50 years ago.


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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:45:40 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:38:51 2024.

Bad values at that.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 13:48:20 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 10:25:29 2024.

That's a long drive from upstate NY to Minnesota.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:50:23 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 10:31:30 2024.

I can't find stats on elective later term abortions, but I do find this stat for all late term abortions, including the fetus can't survive or the mother's life is at risk:

In 2014, the CDC reported that 1.3% of reported abortions (5,578) were performed at 21 weeks of gestation or later.

The article also describes the hoops to jump through for a later term abortion.

So I'm sure the assertion that there are none is false, but it's likely to be very small.



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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 13:50:56 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:45:40 2024.

FALSE!

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 13:52:35 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:50:23 2024.

I agree it’s very small.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:52:38 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:45:40 2024.

You just changed your tune. You may not like HHH's values, but the party still supports them.







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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:53:53 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 25 07:14:59 2024.

As I asked BB, name some values that Hubert Humphrey held that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris do not.





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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 13:55:17 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:52:38 2024.

Yes, especially since they got rid of Vince.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 14:05:56 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:45:40 2024.

What do you think these "bad values" are?

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Aug 25 14:07:06 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 13:48:20 2024.

I am taking a boat early tomorrow morning before dawn from Lake Ontario to Minneapolis via the Great Lakes Waterway. There will be locks and canals to navigate on my way into Lake Erie up into Lake St Clair past Detroit and into Lake Huron up to Sault Ste. Marie and then through Lake Superior to Duluth and finally ending up in Minneapolis. The boat will take even longer than the car but at least I shoud arrive safe and sound. I may take a bus home. Ski-U-Mah.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 14:10:19 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 13:55:17 2024.

He has the last laugh. At his age, he should just chill and enjoy life.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 14:17:12 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 14:05:56 2024.

Normalizing deviant behaviors, for one.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 14:18:23 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Aug 25 14:07:06 2024.

Wise choice.

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Re: RFK Jr. to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 14:55:51 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 25 07:14:59 2024.

When you say "their values", what exactly were they?

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Re: RFK Jr. Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 14:59:01 2024, in response to Re: RFK Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 00:37:39 2024.

This.

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Re: RFK Jr. to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 16:24:26 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 13:38:51 2024.

Wow, you actually said something true. Of course, you don't realize how bad of a light it puts the Dems in.

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Re: RFK Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Aug 25 17:04:26 2024, in response to Re: RFK Is A Mensch; DJT the only Unity Candidate in our lifetimes, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 00:37:39 2024.

Hmm.

You just tossed GAME at Us.. and expected us to be swept up by euphoria.
Any THINKING PERSON would see right through the bullshit,Call YOU OUT ON IT, AND KEEP IT MOVING.

NONE of those people, especially Trump,are "Unified" or unifiers.
Their objectives are simply built on Self interests.
Nothing more.

You try to convince folks that Their interests are OUR INTERESTS.
NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH, and You know it.

Good try though.
You managed to catch Some folks sleep walking.

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Re: RFK Jr. to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 17:06:55 2024, in response to Re: RFK Jr. to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 25 16:24:26 2024.

Well, we know you think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a bad thing, but many people disagree with you.



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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 17:16:34 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 13:45:40 2024.

By the way, if you think the values held by Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale are bad values, then you have absolutely no right to call yourself a Democrat.



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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 17:55:54 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 14:17:12 2024.

Who decides what is "deviant"? There are a few illegal behaviors, because they are predatory in nature. Those aside, after all, to the participants they're perfectly normal.

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Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 25 19:01:28 2024, in response to Re: RFB Is A Dangerous Lunatic, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 10:10:44 2024.

Did you go to Chicago to get your free - no appointment necessary, abortion? THey were even doing it if you were not pregnant. How the fuck are you such an authority on a subject that you have been medically precluded from?

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 19:18:55 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 17:16:34 2024.

As long as I'm registered as one, that means I am.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 19:21:59 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 17:55:54 2024.

You're old enough not to have it explained to you.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 19:43:04 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 17:55:54 2024.

Deviant behaviors like grabbing ’em by the pussy, including in Bergdorf Goodman.

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Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump

Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 21:53:37 2024, in response to Re: RFB to drop out, endorse Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 19:43:04 2024.

Well yeah, that certainly is deviant behavior. And predatory. Which makes it criminal.

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