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NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 01:33:09 2023

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Can't wait until their caught to find out their last names.



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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 26 14:41:03 2023, in response to NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 01:33:09 2023.

Back in the day, the "boys" would have remedied the situation.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 26 15:01:43 2023, in response to NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 01:33:09 2023.

Lol!

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 16:45:33 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 26 15:01:43 2023.

Yup.

What kind of people did this.

We must know their ethnicity and religion.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 26 18:45:09 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 16:45:33 2023.

Ethnicity and religion have nothing to do with anything here. They were just a bunch of stupid kids doing something stupid, probably on a dare.
You remember when you were a kid and all the stupid things that you did, dontcha?? I sure do. Thankfully there weren't cameras everywhere back then, not like today.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 18:51:43 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 26 18:45:09 2023.

This is a violent crime.



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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by pragmatist on Sun Mar 26 18:56:54 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 18:51:43 2023.

Considering the makeup of the neighborhood where this happened you might be heading down the wrong road. I live about a mile from there, it's usually pretty mellow.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 26 18:58:34 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 18:51:43 2023.

Crimes against property are not classified as violent. It can possibly be a bias crime.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 26 19:02:50 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 26 18:58:34 2023.

Old news. Words are considered violence now. Where you been?

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by pragmatist on Sun Mar 26 19:30:56 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 26 19:02:50 2023.

Not in terms of how they present in court in this type of case. Especially as to classification for release.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 20:58:29 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by pragmatist on Sun Mar 26 18:56:54 2023.

They don't look Italian, Irish, German, or Polish.

So I'm waiting for their names if they are caught. Their kind might stick together and not snitch.

Gotta hope someone from school who dislikes then recognizes them, and rats them out.


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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 26 22:41:41 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 26 19:02:50 2023.

Maybe to you and Lurch they are. But mere words are not violence in a court of law, at least in NY. And breaking a statue without any human victims is certainly not violence.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 27 08:35:48 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by pragmatist on Sun Mar 26 18:56:54 2023.

Jews didn’t do this. It’s not our style.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 08:57:18 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 20:58:29 2023.

All useless speculation. It just points once again to a lack of civility that's taking over our society. I don't care the race or ethnicity of the vandals. The real issue is the cause. Take the things that teach respect and reflection out of the schools and there is no longer a moral check valve. Take parental supervision out of the mix and children who have not yet developed sufficiently to have self control, are unleashed on the streets. Finally, because of jail over-crowding and something we now call "equity", laws are no longer being enforced, crimes are no longer being punished and victims have become unfortunates.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 08:57:19 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 26 20:58:29 2023.

All useless speculation. It just points once again to a lack of civility that's taking over our society. I don't care the race or ethnicity of the vandals. The real issue is the cause. Take the things that teach respect and reflection out of the schools and there is no longer a moral check valve. Take parental supervision out of the mix and children who have not yet developed sufficiently to have self control, are unleashed on the streets. Finally, because of jail over-crowding and something we now call "equity", laws are no longer being enforced, crimes are no longer being punished and victims have become unfortunates.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Mar 27 09:02:48 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 27 08:35:48 2023.

I hope not, I agree. And a large part of the Jewish community that is near that church is "modern Orthodox" so it would certainly be out of character. But in every group, there are always a few outliers.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 27 10:15:08 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 27 08:35:48 2023.

It’s not our style.

So, just what is that style?

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 10:28:09 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 08:57:18 2023.

Your post is just as much useless speculation. This kind of vandalism has been around for a long time and nothing really has changed. The whole rest of your post are the usual right wing cultural talking points. The statistical reality is that crime and delinquency are way down from their mid-late 20th century peak.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Mar 27 10:36:07 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 27 08:35:48 2023.

I agree

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 10:39:09 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 10:28:09 2023.

Well of course crime is down. If uou take violent assaults on Asians and make it a misdemeanor, you've reduced crime. Let us not forget how the left devalues family when your queen proclaimed that it takes a village to raise a child. And let us not forget about that stroke of left wing genius about emptying jails to prevent covid. Yup, you guys have all the answers.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 27 10:43:49 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 10:28:09 2023.

Crime and delinquency are only down because definitions have changed.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 11:04:06 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 27 10:43:49 2023.

Yep! "COMPSTAT" magic! Crimes just disappear!

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 11:18:09 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 27 10:43:49 2023.

That isn’t true. Crime has been on a downward trend since the 1990s, only spiking in 2020, and still below historic highs.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 11:21:17 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 11:18:09 2023.

Crime gets reduced on paper, i.e., stats. But the reality is in the streets is still happening, at a greater frequency than the 90s and the aughts.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 11:25:32 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 11:21:17 2023.

This is completely unsupported.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 11:29:51 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 11:25:32 2023.

It doesn't "need" to be supported by misleading stats. The people "in the trenches" on the street know. Crime was "too high" around 1990, 1991 or so, so COMPSTAT was utilized, first by the TAPD, then NYPD. Bottom line, if it can be reduced, reclassified, or dropped altogether, it "never happened". This is what Jeff and others here did for a living, they know the reality of it.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 27 11:38:33 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 11:29:51 2023.

OK, so they put in COMPSTAT and adjusted everything downward. But they can't keep on doing that year after year.

Also, it's really, really hard to hide homicides. There's a limit to how many accidental gun shot deaths you can record in the system. And if they really were hiding homicides, then accidental deaths would be climbing, which they aren't.



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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 12:19:21 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 27 11:38:33 2023.

The idea that crime going down was just statistical tweaking is just something that the right-wing “tough on crime” crowd uses to justify their claims that crime is still high so vote for right wingers who promise to clean things up (that no longer need cleaning).

They’ve gotten away with “liberals are soft on crime” for so long that they don’t know how to get around it with actually low crime.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 12:19:24 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 08:57:18 2023.

That kind of stuff has been going on forever in Catholic school. When I was a kid in high school, somebody stole the fucking Mary out of the half shell. It was found wearing a red dress.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 12:20:49 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 11:29:51 2023.

Lol 🤡

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 27 12:54:06 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 12:19:24 2023.

Yep. Many years ago someone stole the baby Jesus right out of a manger in a Christmas nativity scene at St Sebastians Church.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 13:04:04 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 27 12:54:06 2023.

They're stupid and you wish they wouldn't happen, but it doesn't mean "life of crime".

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:23:32 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 27 11:38:33 2023.

Who's talking about homicides? And yes, they've "changed" the cause of death before

Also, who's talking about gunshots?

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:24:41 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 12:19:21 2023.

Cops are right wing?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:24:47 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:23:32 2023.

Those crimes dropped with all of the others.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:25:04 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:24:41 2023.

Where did I say that?

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:25:55 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 12:20:49 2023.

What's with the LOL? Stay in your lane.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:26:55 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:24:47 2023.

Yes, they did. However, crime is making a comeback, albeit not all categories.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:27:48 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:25:04 2023.

I'm asking a question during to the statement of the right winners saying crimes aren't being reported.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:29:28 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:26:55 2023.

Which my original post indicated. But this kind of crime was around all along and has nothing to do with how kids are being brought up or respect or other kinds of bullshit.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 27 13:37:13 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:29:28 2023.

Call it bullshit all you want, but I bought up my 2 boys, who both are in their 30's and never been arrested for anything, to respect other people's property. If it's not yours, leave it alone. Period.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:42:19 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 27 13:37:13 2023.

Most people are never arrested for anything, or do anything that would justify arrest. What does your anecdote prove?

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 27 13:58:06 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 13:26:55 2023.

It's hard to imagine that only lesser crimes are increasing over the years, while homicides are not. At least that would need some explaining.



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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 14:01:51 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 27 10:43:49 2023.

Exactly

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 14:02:42 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:29:28 2023.

Correct. Those kids need to have a good scare put into them.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 27 14:04:20 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 27 13:58:06 2023.

No crack wars, cameras, snitches, DNA ,etc.. All that ads up.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 14:05:08 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 11:25:32 2023.

When one person calls you a jackass, ignore it. When everyone calls you a jackass, get used to wearing a straw hat and saddle. You're wrong

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 14:07:04 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 12:20:49 2023.

Here we go. Moe and Curley coming to the defense of Larry.

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 14:32:52 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 27 12:19:24 2023.

"Fucking Mary" ? Yup

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Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 27 14:44:17 2023, in response to Re: NYPD search for teens who destroyed Catholic church statue, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 27 13:42:19 2023.

That they respect other people's property.

Obviously if the parents of these teens instilled this concept into their children's heads, they would have not have committed this act.

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