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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by AlM* on Sat Mar 25 11:57:08 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 11:16:10 2023.* Thiel and many others have just as deep pockets.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by AlM* on Sat Mar 25 11:58:25 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 25 11:38:10 2023.* Suddenly there are new witnesses. There's no suddenly about it. Monday's witness was already scheduled when Trump told his lie.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Train Dude* on Sat Mar 25 12:01:54 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 11:58:25 2023.* Trump said that he "expected" to be..... How is it a lie if what he expected, doesn't actually happen?
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Fred G* on Sat Mar 25 12:12:10 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 25 11:38:10 2023.* Always telling when someone admires a liar and his lie 🤷🏽
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Fred G* on Sat Mar 25 12:13:16 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 08:18:50 2023.* Lol!
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Re: Today’s Session Canceled
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Mar 25 12:33:06 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 25 12:01:54 2023.* And he said the expectation was based on "illegal leaks". The press is also still trying to play up the fake E. Jean Carroll charges.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sat Mar 25 13:16:12 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 25 12:12:10 2023.* Yep. That also holds true for those who admire Biden
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Mar 25 13:53:50 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 25 11:38:10 2023.* Say what you want about Trump, but that last Tuesday lie was brilliant What did he lie about? There were no "illegal leaks" that indicated an arrest could have attempted last Tuesday? The actions of Bragg and the grand jury suggests that Trump was doing the opposite of lying.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Mar 25 14:04:39 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 11:57:08 2023.* Do they want America destroyed?
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 14:05:13 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 11:57:08 2023.* Thiel wants to destroy democracy. Soros helped destroy communism. It’s sad how the former Republican Party is now on the side of the people who resent the fall of communism.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Mar 25 14:07:05 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 14:05:13 2023.* How does Thiel want to destroy Democracy?
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Train Dude* on Sat Mar 25 14:14:29 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 14:07:05 2023.* He doesn't. Since when do you expect rational thought from a cartoon psychiatrist?
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 14:23:31 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 14:07:05 2023.* His own words: “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Mar 25 14:25:09 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 14:23:31 2023.* That's just an opinion.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Fred G* on Sat Mar 25 14:25:25 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 25 13:16:12 2023.* Good post!
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 14:37:57 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 14:25:09 2023.* Yes, Thiel’s opinion.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by AlM* on Sat Mar 25 14:47:32 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 14:04:39 2023.* Thiel's intent for America is at least as damaging as Soros's. In my opinion, far more so. Anyway, it's the right wing that wanted Citizens United. They got it, and now Soros gets to pull his weight just like Thiel.
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Posted by AlM* on Sat Mar 25 14:48:55 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 14:25:09 2023.* Wow, how dense can you be? That's his opinion and he backs it with many, many millions of dollars in political contributions. And there are 5 like him for every Soros.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by AlM* on Sat Mar 25 14:52:54 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 25 14:25:25 2023.* I would contend that Biden's lies are far more often forgetfulness (which is its own concern) and/or of far less importance. Trump: I'm going to be indicted, so come out and protest. Biden: I gave my uncle a Purple Heart for his service in WW II.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 14:57:34 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 14:47:32 2023.* WTF? Soros’s agenda is not damaging to the US.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Mar 25 14:59:01 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 14:48:55 2023.* Lo@lm! He was just talking out loud. He doesn't mean that he literally is striving for that!
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Train Dude* on Sat Mar 25 14:59:45 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 14:05:13 2023.* Sounds like you have an anti-gay bias.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Sat Mar 25 15:01:11 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 14:57:34 2023.* Really? By funding DAs who do not enforce laws and let criminals run he shows that he loves this country?
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Fred G* on Sat Mar 25 15:06:41 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 14:52:54 2023.* I know, I was being sarcastic.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 15:27:01 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 25 15:06:41 2023.* I know. Because no one really admires Biden the way that the MAGA crowd admires Trump.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 15:28:56 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 14:59:01 2023.* He actually is striving for that.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Fred G* on Sat Mar 25 15:49:12 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 15:27:01 2023.* I have a Biden flag on my pickup and a hat that says "Ridin with Biden" on it. /s
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by AlM* on Sat Mar 25 16:31:32 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 14:57:34 2023.* There are some parts of his agenda that I find a bit damaging. But as I said, far less so than Thiel's.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Mar 25 16:34:09 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 15:27:01 2023.* You could have ended the sentence after "no one really admires Biden".
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 16:37:14 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 16:34:09 2023.* I could have.
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Mar 25 19:18:39 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 15:28:56 2023.* For what, exactly, is the question
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Mar 25 20:21:10 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 19:18:39 2023.* If you read the piece, you’d see that he thinks a benevolent dictatorship is better for “freedom.”
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Re: Today's Session Cancelled
Posted by Fred G* on Sun Mar 26 15:13:08 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 20:21:10 2023.* “He wasn’t being serious” “Sarcasm” “He was kidding”
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Mar 26 15:21:40 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 26 15:13:08 2023.* Who was?
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There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Mar 28 15:43:26 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 23 13:24:39 2023.* NBC News No Trump Grand Jury Indictment Vote Expected This Week, Sources Say The Manhattan grand jury that has been weighing charges against former President Donald Trump is not expected to vote on a possible indictment in the hush money case this week, though the schedule could change, three sources familiar with the matter said Tuesday. The sources said Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is not expected to convene the 23-member panel again until Thursday, when they say the group is expected to address matters other than Trump and Stormy Daniels. They did the same last Thursday after a scheduled meeting for the day before was abruptly called off. No reason was given. A day ago, the grand jury heard from David Pecker, former CEO of American Media and publisher of National Enquirer. It was his second appearance before the grand jury. Why appear again? Pecker's testimony could corroborate Michael Cohen's claim that the hush money payments were not just personal, but political, and that they were intended to catch and kill a story that could have impacted Trump's election. In 2018, American Media Inc. admitted to paying $150,000 in hush money to ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film star Stormy Daniels. A statement of admitted facts said that AMI's "principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman's story so as to prevent it from influencing the election. Federal prosecutors previously granted Pecker immunity in their investigation into Cohen. A week before Pecker's latest appearance, Trump ally Robert Costello, who waived immunity, sought to discredit Cohen before the grand jury. The president had told the globe he expected to be arrested last Tuesday. Seven days later, no arrest has come, nor has an indictment vote. ~~And the world continues to wait~~. Heightened concerns over potentially violent protests in the wake of the attack on the U.S. Capitol last year also appear to have eased a bit. Two senior police officials said Monday that an NYPD order directing all officers report for duty in uniform in case of a possible indictment or related protest chaos was rescinded. The department continues to monitor events in Lower Manhattan. Protest activity has been largely muted in the absence of any movement on the case by Bragg or the grand jury, which has been secretly hearing evidence for months in the case. It's unclear if the testimony from Costello, who could be prosecuted if he were to perjure himself, factored into Bragg's grand jury plans over these last few days. Trump has vociferously equated the relative silence out of the Manhattan grand jury to "NO CASE." He taunted Bragg on his social media platform for much of last week and continued to do so on Truth Social early Monday. Bragg's office, which received threatening letters in the mail potentially related to the case, declined comment. It's unclear if any possible organized actions could intensify should the grand jury opt to indict Trump, which would be the first indictment of a sitting or former U.S. president in history. But with the pall of the Jan. 6, 2022 insurrection still looming large, the NYPD, and its law enforcement partners at all levels of government, prepared accordingly. Although the grand jury paused last week in its review of the case, former prosecutor Daniel Horwitz said he doesn't believe the delay was due to second thoughts about the credibility of Cohen, who has admitted to and served time in prison for lying about the payoff to the porn star. "There’s a lot of criticism, questions about Michael Cohen. You know, lots of white collar cases — almost every white collar case is made with insiders," Horwitz said. Cohen says he is telling the truth about Trump and falsified documents to try to cover up the hush-money payments — which are not illegal. However, falsifying business records to protect a presidential campaign might be. "After reviewing everything, if the DA still believes the evidence warrants the charge, then I would expect Bragg to file those charges," said trial attorney Robert Gottlieb. Columbia law professor John Coffee suggested the law itself could be a problem for prosecutors because even if the district attorney can prove Trump falsely accounted for hush money to Daniels, that would only amount to a misdemeanor. Winning a low-level felony conviction could require connecting that to a federal crime. Sources say an indictment of former President Donald Trump could happen as early as Wednesday — if it happens at all. So far, there has been no official announcement of any time-frame for the grand jury's work in the hush money investigation. Meanwhile, law enforcement agencies at all levels are shoring up security for the possibility of an indictment. NBC New York's Jonathan Dienst and Sarah Wallace report. "The New York statute says it’s a misdemeanor if you just falsify the records. It’s a felony if you falsify the record in order to conceal a crime. But if the crime is a federal crime that is a different ball of wax," said Coffee. "It is not at all clear that NY state has jurisdiction or authority to find a violation of a federal crime." Federal prosecutors had said the payments amounted to illegal, unreported assistance to Trump’s campaign. But they declined to file charges against Trump himself. The ex-president has denied all allegations against him.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources
Posted by AlM* on Tue Mar 28 16:11:40 2023, in response to There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 15:43:26 2023.* "The New York statute says it’s a misdemeanor if you just falsify the records. It’s a felony if you falsify the record in order to conceal a crime. But if the crime is a federal crime that is a different ball of wax," said Coffee. "It is not at all clear that NY state has jurisdiction or authority to find a violation of a federal crime." If the allegations are true, the falsification of business records unlawfully reduced the Trump Organization's NY state income taxes.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Mar 28 19:19:27 2023, in response to There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 15:43:26 2023.* Of course the law is a problem for a conviction, but TDS knows no limits
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources
Posted by AlM* on Tue Mar 28 19:31:32 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 28 19:19:27 2023.* The law is not a problem in the slightest. Lack of evidence would be a problem, of course.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Mar 28 20:22:19 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Week Either: Sources, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 28 19:19:27 2023.* Of course the law is a problem for a conviction There's a reason why attainder and ex post facto are forbidden by the Constitution.
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There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 29 14:28:21 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 23 13:24:39 2023.* Daily Wail Trump indictment decision is delayed ᴀɢᴀɪɴ as Manhattan grand jury weighing charges takes 'scheduled month-long hiatus' The Manhattan grand jury deciding whether or not to indict former President Donald Trump will break for another month, delaying the sluggish case even further. Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg had referred the case to a grand jury earlier this month in the hope of indicting Trump on campaign finance violations. They have been tasked with considering whether Trump broke the law when his attorney Michael Cohen gave $130,000 to porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about claims she had slept with Trump in 2016. It was supposed to remain a secret, allowing the jurors to consider the evidence in privacy. The grand jury normally meets on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. But they are not meeting today; and tomorrow, they will hear details on another case. They won't hear evidence on Trump's case tomorrow, either, then the jury will go on a scheduled 'hiatus' that has been planned since January. The Manhattan DA's Office did not immediately respond to inquiries on Wednesday afternoon. Earlier, he praised the jurors for taking their time, writing on Truth Social: 'I have gained such respect for this grand jury, and perhaps even the grand jury system as a whole. The evidence is so overwhelming in my favor, and so ridiculously bad for the highly partisan and hateful district attorney, that the grand jury is saying, "hold on, we are not a rubber stamp," which most grand juries are branded as being, "we are not going to vote against a preponderance of evidence or against large numbers of legal scholars all saying there is no case here." Drop this sick witch hunt, now!' His attorney Joe Tacopina told DailyMail.com: 'Everyone, from the left to the right in the middle, are saying this case should not be brought. It should not because there is absolutely no crime. The law makes that clear. And you do not indict a president for the first time in this country's history on a case that will never make it to the finish line. I am hopeful that the DA's office is cognizant of that and that they will not simply seek to charge President Trump because DA Bragg's financiers are baying for his scalp. It would be the greatest form of injustice and would destroy the rule of law.' Republicans have slammed the prosecution, many of which think will only help Trump's campaign and will never lead to a conviction. 'The way it comes across is very political. Like this guy is a very political guy. It is just, it appears to be not fair. They don’t put out good information on it. That’s why I always say about law enforcement: tell people what’s going on. Don’t be a black hole. Give people good information, so people don’t think badly,' Sen. Rick Scott told DailyMail.com on Wednesday, shortly after the delay was announced.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”
Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 30 21:39:30 2023, in response to There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 14:28:21 2023. Thanks for the info Daily Mail.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”
Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 30 21:59:25 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 30 21:39:30 2023. Seems to me that Bragg caught wind of the headline and put the pressure on. Tainted grand jury.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”
Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 30 22:02:39 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 30 21:59:25 2023. Or maybe he reads OTChat for his daily information.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”
Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 31 01:29:56 2023, in response to There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 14:28:21 2023. LOL 😂😆😂. What a bunch of crock. About time the Teflon Don got busted for his shit. Got away with far too much crap over the years. Too bad there aren't any more firing squads. Doesn't matter. Trump won't spend any real time In prison,for his usual.
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Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”
Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Mar 31 08:15:26 2023, in response to Re: There Will Be No Indictment This Month—Grand Jury Takes Scheduled Month-Long “Hiatus”, posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 31 01:29:56 2023.
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