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Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 18:49:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Thu May 26 18:24:46 2022. Yep.I also stalled out once in second gear on a 25% gradient. No fun getting re-started on that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 19:17:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 17:51:59 2022. Old three-speed (or sometimes two-speed) automatic trans that came with a lot of four-cylinder cars in the 70s/80s, IINM. Acceleration nonexistent. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 19:20:30 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Thu May 26 18:12:48 2022. Incorrect. No shifting while cruising on a highway. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 20:09:32 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 17:51:59 2022. Automatic tranny |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 20:11:58 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:10:22 2022. Have you ever driven an EV? There is nothing like the power and feeling of that. An automatic transmission is just a flawed way of controlling a flawed form of motive power. I’d rather have no transmission at all. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 26 20:36:08 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 18:49:03 2022. My pet peeve was going up a hill and having to stop for a light and the person behind you pulls up only couple feet behind you. It's hard to start normally on a hill driving stick without rolling back a few inches so they freak out and start honking. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 20:48:22 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Thu May 26 20:36:08 2022. That's only when you are still learning. Once you get used to it starting on an uphill without falling back is easy. BTW, my 1012 six speed manual tranny Jeep Wrangler has some sort of thingy which doesn't roll back on a hill. I think somehow a computer applies the brake or something like that. I didn't know that when I bought it until I was on a hill.Bill Cosby did a routine about starting in a Volkswagon on a steep San Francisco hill. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 26 20:55:26 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 20:48:22 2022. On a regular hill it doesn't roll back, but I was thinking of SF type hills. There are three pedals and I only have two feet. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 21:18:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Thu May 26 20:55:26 2022. Once you get used to it it's easy to go from the brake to the gas as you're coming up fast with the clutch. I have no problem even on the steepest hills. BTW, popping the clutch comes in handy if the car doesn't start due to a low battery. However with newer cars if the battery is completely dead the car would eventually stall again due to all the computers and electric things in newer cars. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 21:27:20 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 21:18:03 2022. Why? If the engine is running the car has enough power to run with the battery disconnected. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:28:57 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 20:09:32 2022. Hmm...never heard that before. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:30:40 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Thu May 26 18:12:48 2022. It was only a pain in the ass (left leg actually) if you were stuck in traffic. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 21:31:45 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:30:40 2022. Which is much of the time, so there’s that.In traffic I just drive with one pedal (the gas) or with 0 (autopilot). |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:34:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 20:11:58 2022. I was speaking about manual transmissions not automatics"Have you ever driven an EV?" Can't afford it. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:40:58 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 18:17:57 2022. "One of those much more serious financial problems is medical care."Thats pure unqualified partisan speculation. People can have adequate medical care (like myself) and still have a cash flow crisis when it comes to filling up their tank. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:43:44 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 21:31:45 2022. Everything in life has a down side. Everyone wants to go to Heaven, but no one wants to die. Thats a big down side!! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 21:46:11 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 21:27:20 2022. Not with newer cars with electronic ignition and other things that require some juice. There has to be at least a little juice in the battery. In the old days you could. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:19:18 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:34:03 2022. You can test drive or rent one. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:20:07 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 21:43:44 2022. I don’t want to go to heaven. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:20:47 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 21:46:11 2022. That doesn’t make sense. Then the battery could never be charged. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 22:39:30 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 21:46:11 2022. So with new(er) cars, the engine can't run straight off the alternator? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 22:40:44 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:19:18 2022. Ok...soon I will do that. I keep an open mind |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:45:02 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 22:40:44 2022. Awesome! Enjoy. The best way is to drive it without “creep” where you have to actually press the gas to move.Yes, I call it the gas pedal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:45:28 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:45:02 2022. I mean creep is the opposite of that, simulates an automatic tranny. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 22:49:08 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 13:24:17 2022. the required support infrastructure for electric vehicles technology is non-existent. it's a chimera. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 22:55:16 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:21:35 2022. first law of driving is, dont think like a chick. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 23:01:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 06:05:17 2022. at the very least, flick a zippo. that'll work. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 23:05:28 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:45:28 2022. Is "creep" in an EV the same as idle speed in an ICE in "drive"? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 23:14:01 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 23:05:28 2022. It’s when you let go of the brake and the car moves without pressing the gas. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 23:18:10 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 23:14:01 2022. Press the gas? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 23:19:17 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 09:45:11 2022. i've driven cars since i was twenty. that has never happened to me at any gas station i've ever stopped at. nor have i ever witnessed it. and i never saw heard or read of that happening anywhere.overflowing gas is human error a hundred percent of the time. now, i have seen women not paying attention and overflowing the tank. more than five times at least. truth is, the nozzle she was using didn't break. the machine worked fine, bro. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 23:23:50 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 23:14:01 2022. Yeah. In ICEs its called idle speed. So in EVs it is similar I assume. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 23:30:32 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:49:06 2022. you don't need a gauge to know that. just learn your car man. jesus.i know exactly how many miles a gallon will give me. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 23:36:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 23:23:50 2022. It’s a setting you can change. I prefer to drive without “idle speed.” |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 23:37:26 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 23:19:17 2022. "overflowing gas is human error a hundred percent of the time"Wrong! You have no idea what you are talking about. Ive been a shift mgr at a gas station at Coney Island & 18th in Bklyn for 3 years back in the early 70s. It is rare but it happens. The little sensor at the tip of the nozzle that shuts of the gas flow is pressure sensitive. If the flow of gas slows down for any reason, like many cars filling up at the same time or the stations tanks are running low & the pressure slows down, nozzles might not shut off. Ive seen that happen from time to time. What shuts off the gas is the steady pressure backflow from the tank under pressure that triggers the nozzle to shut off the flow. No "human error" involved here whatsoever. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 23:54:49 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:10:22 2022. all artificial bullshit. the majority of assholes getting off on that are fucked up drivers overall. not all but most. the posers.gimme an ass kicking belly scraping body surf wave ride or a zippin zoomin gravity respectin roll across a multiple elevation simultaneous quantum/macro gravity friction balance motion dynamic on muh brooklyn bustin thirty-six inch signed sportster longboard cruiser, or jist me feets and a boulevard with an infinite perspective 'n ah be's fine. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri May 27 00:09:59 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 23:37:26 2022. in the context of the conversation, i don't believe you. you're describing an exact thing with non-descriptive hearsay.are you saying that a person filling his gas tank at a station at eighteenth avenue and coney island avenue had "filled his tank" and was still gripping the nozzle handle as gas started spurting out of the gas tank? and what, the gas started to pool around his shoes as he blithely stood there? bullshit. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 27 00:14:21 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 22:55:16 2022. Oh, don't I know it! They are the bane of my driving existence! |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri May 27 00:37:31 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 27 00:14:21 2022. if a car:is coming up behind you in moving traffic at an accelerated rate and short breaking about two feet behind you via some unknown laws of physics stolidly drives at a speed that KEEPS her in a position that blocks you from getting ahead of the slow moving fuck directly in front of you remains motionless as the light turns green refuses to drive in an even mildly intuitive fashion at the unavoidable points of disruption in the average journey etc etc... es una chica. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 27 00:50:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by ntrainride on Thu May 26 23:19:17 2022. overflowing gas is human error a hundred percent of the timeNope. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 27 00:51:39 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 06:05:17 2022. Sure, if you're fond of the cover of a certain Pink Floyd album. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri May 27 09:12:53 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 27 00:50:03 2022. ok. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 27 10:03:49 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 21:31:45 2022. In traffic I just drive with one pedal (the gas) or with 0 (autopilot).If you set idle speed to zero, and have your foot off the pedal, does it hold still if stopped on a hill, or do you need to step on the brake? And in traffic, what if the car in front of you slows down a lot? Don't you have to brake? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 27 10:07:27 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 09:45:11 2022. Where it happened to me was in a quiet rural town. No real traffic. I would have noticed the sound change except I was distracted.But of course no one is taught to listen carefully just in case the nozzle is defective. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 10:13:53 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Fri May 27 10:03:49 2022. 1. Yes.2. If I’m going slow enough, no. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 27 10:32:50 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 10:13:53 2022. OK, thanks.Of course, those are Tesla features implemented in software and not inherent EV features. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 27 13:30:21 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 22:45:02 2022. My next quest is to find out who in SE Pennsylvania rents out EVs |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 27 13:33:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 27 13:30:21 2022. I meant SW Pennsylvania. Glad I caught myself before Randyo saw this!:) |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat May 28 11:28:32 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 27 13:33:09 2022. You aren't talking about a railroad, he won't care 🙄 |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Jun 11 15:17:43 2022, in response to Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 24 15:12:26 2022. 
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