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Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 17:40:33 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 17:30:45 2022. Your last paragraph shows how people in the real world don’t care about “what if” scenarios and these “but sometimes” arguments are unpersuasive.Yeah, my car might break down at some point, but that’s really not likely to happen but the fact that I don’t have to buy gas is something that I benefit from every day. I remember seeing the low gas warning light coming on and thinking “ugh, not this again.” It’s another annoying errand I don’t have to do anymore. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:05:55 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 17:05:26 2022. True.I made the mistake of believing that 350 kilowatts meant just that, and not less than or equal to 350 kilowatts. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 18:06:13 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 17:05:26 2022. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:09:41 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 17:30:45 2022. it's not like gas stations are scarceTrue. But: - They aren't all open 24 hours. - In rural areas they aren't that dense. - You could have a traffic jam just when you're low. - Just when you're low you realize you're late to where you need to get. All sorts of reasons not to get too low. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 18:11:34 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:09:41 2022. -You could get low just as you arrive home in the evening, and then the next day you end up having to drive more mid-work than you expected. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:11:51 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 17:25:12 2022. I've often timed the length of my gas station stops. For me it tends to be 7 minutes, but that includes the overhead, not just the time from inserting the pump handle to removing it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 25 18:26:51 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 16:41:09 2022. Why don't you have an EV? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 25 18:28:57 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:11:51 2022. Bullshit alert! Bullshit alert! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:35:23 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:09:41 2022. I'm not out at all hours, but I think that nearly all gas stations are 24 hours where I live. We pay at the pump and pump our own gas. Gas pumps (the actual pumps) can be left powered and in standby waiting for demand. I don't know why modern gas stations would close, but I could be off.I agree with everything else, but I don't need to fill up at half a tank to not worry about those things. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:41:02 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:05:55 2022. You also corrected/argued facts with someone with actual and significant experience charging an electric car. I found that bit odd. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:54:33 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:35:23 2022. I think that nearly all gas stations are 24 hours where I live.In LA, sure. Just like subways in NYC are open 24 hours. :) Are you ever driving on a rural California highway before 8 AM? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:55:32 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:41:02 2022. I did a simple arithmetic calculation. I just didn't know there was a catch. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:58:28 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:54:33 2022. I think that rural stations are still 24 hours.Where you have to worry when driving out west is distance. We have "Next gas 50 miles" signs on the major interstate between LA and SF. It can get way worse in other areas. Obviously I take that into account when filling up. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 19:12:13 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:58:28 2022. I think that rural stations are still 24 hours.Big Pine, CA 2 out of 3 featured gas stations close at 11 PM, the third doesn't say. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:15:35 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 18:06:13 2022. Meh. I prefer this version |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:21:35 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 13:29:26 2022. I haven't either. What I have heard is to not try to squeeze in more gas once the detector thingie clicks indicating the tank is full. I am sometimes guilty of that. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:23:47 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 25 17:19:01 2022. I reset it also, but more to calculate the mpg (the car shows it, but I like to do it myself as well, the car mpg is almost always higher than the actual (not more than 1 mile per gallon, generally) |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 19:32:15 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 19:12:13 2022. Interesting. Thanks! When you click on the gas buddy link, it shows the Chevron as 24 hours, but doesn't have hours listed for the other two.Obviously I would account for being in a rural or even unknown area if I had to fill up. I'm taking in general for regular commuting and not living in a rural area, I don't see the need to routinely fill up at half a tank. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 19:38:35 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 19:32:15 2022. Agreed, it all depends where you are. Just saying there are places where you have to be careful. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed May 25 20:11:54 2022, in response to Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 24 15:12:26 2022. Laughable. Does Biden (or his handlers) believe that we are all financially able to just ditch our gasoline-powered vehicles and get electrics? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 20:21:30 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Mitch45 on Wed May 25 20:11:54 2022. Does Biden (or his handlers) believe that we are all financially able to just ditch our gasoline-powered vehicles and get electrics?Over the next 30 years, yes. Think of the transition to fossil-free electrics as being cheaper than what you will pay if Greenland melts out. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:31:28 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 20:21:30 2022. Think of our great grand kids who'll never get the chance to run thu a 4 on the floor, popping a clutch, burning rubber etc. Never again to see street racing on the Connecting Highway. How dull auto travel will be with a flat torqued self driving overpriced well dressed electric go cart.SMH. BTW where did you get the idea that Greenland will "Melt out" on 30 yrs? You should have used Iceland for your unfounded speculation for better effect |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:35:15 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 25 15:46:08 2022. No it was stated as absolute fact |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:35:58 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:55:32 2022. No, you want so much to be correct |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:37:28 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:21:35 2022. Yes. Ive heard that. Once the nozzle clicks, thats it. YOur tank is filled to its desired safe limit. If you fill up all the way to the neck, gasoline expands in the hot weather and can spill or seep thru the vent lines or even thru the gas cap, creating a safety issue. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:39:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 16:41:09 2022. But then you claimed the average fill up was 7 minutes, in an attempt to make the electric refills sound comparable. When asked why it took so long to fill up (an AAA link stated it averaged at two minutes)...you claimed, "well most people don't wait till near empty". Okay, well then it would be even SHORTER amount of time if only filling 1/4 or half tank |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:40:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 17:40:33 2022. Well it appears "the battery almost dead" is probably worse |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:41:51 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:09:41 2022. If you don't live in a rural area driving in the middle of the night, and instead live in an urban or suburban area where gas is open late, or you don't drive late?Again, the absurd is attempted to be ysed |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:42:32 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 18:35:23 2022. Exactly, Al is just using the absurd extremes again. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:43:39 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 19:38:35 2022. Yes, and if most of us aren't, how is this being used as a normalicy argument? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:45:01 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 17:30:03 2022. Sure, but those would be the same when driving and leaving a charging place too. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:46:13 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 18:11:51 2022. Oh please. 30 seconds to turn into gas station. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:49:06 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:23:47 2022. On my dash, it has a miles left on your tank capacity reading based on your driving. When it gets to 100 miles left, thats when I start looking. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 22:02:39 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:49:06 2022. Yes. Most cars do. Al is stuck in the past. The milage left also changes based on during conditions |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 00:49:33 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:33:01 2022. El ohhh el |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 00:50:52 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 14:13:03 2022. What did you drive 47 years ago? A pinto? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 02:02:50 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 25 19:21:35 2022. I've done that too. My rationale is that I won't get any overflow out of the gas cap if I keep burning fuel 🙂Ever get a broken nozzle that doesn't stop pumping at the right level and the gas comes out anyway? That's happened to me once or twice. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 02:06:10 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:31:28 2022. Still have stickshifts on some Corollas and Yarises. And of course (while they still make them) the newer muscle cars with the 500-hp small blocks, most of which have 6-on-the-floor at least. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 06:01:14 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:41:51 2022. To me waiting until you have half a gallon or even a gallon left is just as absurd. And if you have even a little dirt in your tank, just having a little gas isn't good. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 06:05:17 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 02:02:50 2022. A good thing to do when that happens is to light up a cigarette. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 06:21:33 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 26 06:01:14 2022. Who said wait until a half gallon or gallon? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:35:54 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:31:28 2022. While they do all that, the electric cars will beat them in a race every fucking time. Even the cheapest EV is a supercar compared to any ICE. While an ICE car trying to race just makes annoying fart sounds, I mean engine noises, an EV actually moves. IC Engines are heaters that produce motion as a minor side effect. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:36:18 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:35:15 2022. Huh? That doesn’t make it a lie. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:37:41 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:40:09 2022. No, it isn’t, because it never happens. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 26 07:38:53 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:33:01 2022. A car for 47 years? How many miles did you have on it? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 07:39:03 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:36:18 2022. I never claimed he "lied", but it was the usual al talking out of ass claiming it's absolute fact |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:40:17 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:42:32 2022. It’s not absurd, it’s just non-representative. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:43:20 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:45:01 2022. I already drive to and leave my charging place every single day whether or not I charge and would do so even if I didn’t have an EV. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:34:02 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:43:20 2022. I'm curious. How much extra time does it take you each day to plug in and unplug your car? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:36:11 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:40:17 2022. Agreed that all the examples I gave are not necessarily representative of routine everyday life. I gave them only as counterexamples to a general rule. |
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