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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:38:17 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 4 21:20:09 2022. "That doesn't make sense."Look who you are telling that to. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed May 4 22:05:29 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:18:39 2022. What other rights should we put up for popular vote? If a state wanted to say that Clarence and Ginni Thomas are not legally married can they do so? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 22:06:34 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 4 21:20:09 2022. It would be enforced the same way you can’t go to a pharmacy and buy meth. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 4 22:12:52 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 22:06:34 2022. Equating a "morning after" pill with meth is a little strong, no? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 22:14:01 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 4 22:12:52 2022. Yes. But that is what the even jellicles actually believe. They call it an “abortifacient” and think it ought to be banned. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:23:03 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by mtk52983 on Wed May 4 22:05:29 2022. We're they married when interracial marriage was legal? What overriding interest does the state have in preventing interracial marriage? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 4 22:36:29 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 15:52:39 2022. Inflation, gas prices, the Market, crime,revolving door courts, handcuffed cops, etc... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed May 4 23:03:00 2022, in response to Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 2 21:41:29 2022. What difference will this make.. especially in NYS?The ability to "have an abortion" will still be available in New York, even for out of staters... This whole nonsense was a device to shake up the radicals..the feminist..the LEFT-WING...TO distract them from wondering what they are really up to. Who,within their right mind would release something like this,knowing how these people would come out in droves...? We know why... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed May 4 23:04:37 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 4 14:52:11 2022. Couldn't agree with you more.Dems ran the fucking country into the ground. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed May 4 23:07:09 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 22:14:01 2022. Religion is the downfall of this country.Religion is madness. There is ONLY God..and he doesn't have a denomination. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:35:40 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Edwards! on Wed May 4 23:03:00 2022. This may be a first but:EXCELLENT POST! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 5 01:19:01 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 22:14:01 2022. You never really met an Evangelical.Jews and Catholics and whoever else. |
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Posted by subfan on Thu May 5 02:25:57 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 15:59:45 2022. And do you really think the blue laws were primarily based on non-religious reasons? The purported business reasons you cited could have been satisfied by passing similar restrictions for Saturday rather than Sunday - but nonetheless, Sunday, the common religious day of rest in the US, was universally chosen. Based on your reasoning, that should make all such laws unconstitutional as being "based on religion", despite the purported social benefits, no?subfan |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu May 5 07:07:04 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:23:03 2022. The same reasons they gave before Loving. Texas’s law appears to put a bounty on abortions performed while Roe is still on the books but later overturned. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 07:48:46 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 5 01:19:01 2022. I don’t think I have. So what? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 08:33:04 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by mtk52983 on Thu May 5 07:07:04 2022. I'm not understanding the point you are trying to make. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu May 5 08:47:41 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 08:33:04 2022. My point is that there is no prior Supreme Court case that requires following if you use the analysis that Justice Alito has used in his opinion. A state like Hawaii could follow the same type of law like Texas did in creating a bounty system in abortion matters but instead of abortions target Judges who are in interracial marriages and make it no defense that Loving made it legal. The Texas law does not allow a defense based on Roe or Casey making the abortion legal at the time it was performed. However, rather than the minimum of $10,000 bounty in Texas, Hawaii makes it $1,000,000,000.00 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 09:04:48 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by mtk52983 on Thu May 5 08:47:41 2022. Absurd argument. States have the ability to push all sort of absurd laws but never do because they are, in fact, absurd. I am not anti abortion and see nothing changing in my state but I do believe in the constitution, especially the part that says that powers not specifically given to the federal government, belong to the states.I am also outraged by the leaking of this document and even more-so thevasshole-in-chief weighing in on the subject with highly polarizing rhetoric. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 5 09:12:51 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 4 22:12:52 2022. The morning after pill has only been legally available in all states as of 2013, and that is by FDA regulation. Such a regulation could easily be abolished by a Republican administration.If the FDA says a drug may not be sold or manufactured in the US, then the only way you can get it is the same way you can get meth, namely illegally. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 5 09:14:36 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 4 22:36:29 2022. covid, covid, Ukraine, covid, local politics, local politics |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 09:15:39 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Thu May 5 09:12:51 2022. Geez, you are becoming even more moronic day by day. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 09:40:53 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Thu May 5 09:12:51 2022. So now the FDA is going to go after drug companies bottom line and ban the morning after pill?. I don't think so. Drug companies have lobbyists and politicians listen. Money talks.Besides,in addition to meth being poison and The morning after pill isn't, banning something doesn't stop demand (good luck with the proposed ban on menthol cigarettes BTW). Worst case scenario, there's always Canada. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 09:45:22 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 09:40:53 2022. That's how the office drone rolls. Crazy scenarios to stir panic. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 10:18:28 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:35:40 2022. No it is a first.That can't be Edward. That has to be an imposter. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 10:24:05 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 10:18:28 2022. Hmmmmm |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 10:32:01 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 10:24:05 2022. Will the real Edward please stand up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 10:35:59 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 09:40:53 2022. You say that meth is poison. It is. But so is the abortion pill to someone who believes abortion is murder.The last few years have proven that the former Republican Party is no longer the party of big business and is the party of even jellicle culture. Look at how Smart Trump (DeSantis) is going after Disney. They’ll throw the drug companies to the curb if their voters want them to. They’ll just make sure that their members of Congress and their friends can sell their stock and take a short position before announcing it. Canada is fine for women who can go to Canada, but not everyone can afford the plane ticket, the hotel room, and the time off. Not to mention that the pill doesn’t work right away, so someone will take the pill in Canada, return home, suffer complications requiring an ER visit, and then get arrested. Besides, why should we have to rely on the beneficence of other countries in the land of the free? People come here to flee persecution elsewhere, and not the other way around. We belong at the top of the world’s countries. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 10:39:42 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 10:18:28 2022. Why? Edwards has been a social conservative all along. It was just super hard to notice through his stream of consciousness posts. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 11:42:11 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 10:35:59 2022. "But so is the abortion pill to someone who believes abortion is murder."Anyone who believes the abortion pill is murder wouldn't take it in the first place "Canada is fine for women who can go to Canada,..." What I had in mind is having the pills shipped or "muled" into the country. I doubt that morning after pills would be high on the custom agents priority lists. "People come here to flee persecution elsewhere, and not the other way around" Truth! Like my ancestors (Catholics from Northern Ireland) came here to escape religious persecution from the Brits. But thats for another thread. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu May 5 11:43:24 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 10:39:42 2022. LMAO |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 5 11:45:12 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 09:15:39 2022. Lo@lm! |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 5 11:52:00 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 09:40:53 2022. So now the FDA is going to go after drug companies bottom line and ban the morning after pill?I never said "going to." I said it was a realistic possibility if we have a Republican Congress and White House in 2025. Instead of meth, make it marijuana, but actually enforced. Worst case scenario, there's always Canada. Smuggling in from Canada could be made as serious a crime as smuggling in a useful controlled substance like percoset. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 5 11:53:39 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 11:42:11 2022. I doubt that morning after pills would be high on the custom agents priority lists.They would if the President told them to make it a high priority. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 12:41:13 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 11:42:11 2022. The point being that if they believe it’s murder, they’ll ban it for everyone else.And I don’t know anyone who can get me drugs so I don’t take drugs.* The same would be true for abortion pills. *I wouldn’t take drugs anyway, but I literally have no idea how I would get drugs if I wanted to. The exception is acid. I would definitely try that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 12:41:48 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu May 5 11:43:24 2022. Thanks. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 13:11:31 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 10:39:42 2022. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 13:12:42 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 13:11:31 2022. ???? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 13:25:03 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 12:41:13 2022. You are changing the argument in a very disingenuous way. The argument is not whether abortion is murder or not. The argument is whether its a state issue or a federal issue. Ifnits federal then legislate it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 13:27:43 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Thu May 5 11:52:00 2022. Real possibility based on what? You show yourself to be more of an imbecile every day. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu May 5 13:33:25 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 13:12:42 2022. You're in the Twighlight Zone. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 14:01:17 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 5 13:25:03 2022. No, you’re changing the subject. The argument in this branch of the thread is how T Party members of Congress want to ban abortion nationally and may get their chance. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 5 18:37:30 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 18:36:22 2022. Filibuster in the Senate, unless the Republicans get a super-majority (unlikely) or they do away with the filibuster (more likely). |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 5 18:46:06 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 4 18:19:08 2022. I wouldn't say most states, maybe just a majority. Also, there will be whole regions banning abortion, so it won't simply be a matter of crossing state lines, not if the next state over also bans abortions. Also, there will be the inevitable lawsuits against anyone and everyone who "assists" in abortions - will that include transportation companies? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 5 19:11:00 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 5 18:37:30 2022. If in 2025, 50 Republicans support the measure, the filibuster will be gone. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 19:17:01 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Thu May 5 11:53:39 2022. No. Can't see it no matter who is President. In keeping with a sense of reality, I can't imagine bomb/drug sniffing dogs being retrained to sniff out morning after pills. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 19:19:58 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 12:41:13 2022. I highly recommend staying away from acid, until that too is legalized. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 5 19:38:26 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 19:17:01 2022. Can't see it no matter who is President.LOL. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 19:49:38 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Thu May 5 19:38:26 2022. ??? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 20:22:50 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Thu May 5 19:38:26 2022. IAWTLOL |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 20:25:43 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 5 19:19:58 2022. Back to base, then. |
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