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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 27 20:02:09 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 27 18:24:39 2022. Okay. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 27 20:06:26 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 19:57:46 2022. Correct. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 27 20:13:02 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 19:55:50 2022. For sure. Compare Gary Hart with DJT or even Bill Clinton. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 27 20:14:23 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 17:08:08 2022. It isn't. But people are being disqualified because of their race or sex, as the first choice is skin color |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:15:47 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 27 20:13:02 2022. 
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:18:41 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 27 20:14:23 2022. No, it isn’t. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 27 20:22:58 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:18:41 2022. Yes it is. The door is closed unless you are a certain skin color or sex |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:27:05 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 27 20:22:58 2022. No, it isn’t. There’s no door. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 27 20:32:01 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 19:57:46 2022. False. He supported Operation Breadbasket, which was a church-run charity operation. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jan 27 20:32:32 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:27:05 2022. 
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jan 27 20:35:49 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 27 20:32:01 2022. Not false, King did support affirmative action. In 1963, he wrote that blacks fully deserved “special, compensatory measures” in jobs, education and other realms. He wrote that in “Why We Can’t Wait."Four years later, in “Where Do We Go From Here?” he wrote: “A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for him.” |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 27 20:47:53 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Dave on Thu Jan 27 20:35:49 2022. Ripping quotes out of context, I see, never mind deliberate truncation. Full context here; while there are points of view one may logically object to, no endorsement of affirmative action is in there. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:51:09 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 27 20:47:53 2022. You live a rich fantasy life. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 27 21:09:56 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 27 18:42:10 2022. I'm just surprised that you don't reach out with your affirmative action sentiments. I guess liberalism only goes so far. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 27 22:12:58 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 19:55:50 2022. If he was running for POTUS, it would have been in that time frame. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 22:19:30 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 27 22:12:58 2022. Yes. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jan 27 23:10:52 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 27 20:51:09 2022. He sure does. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 03:04:00 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 27 21:09:56 2022. Maybe you don’t understand the private sector |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 06:12:40 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 03:04:00 2022. He, and the other extreme right-wingers here are just hyper-triggered that a Black woman might actually be qualified for, and obtain, a station in life that was once exclusively the province of straight, White males. They conveniently overlook that the door was closed and locked to other groups for most of American history, and they cannot fathom that there are actually many highly qualified Black women who can sit on the SCOTUS bench. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jan 28 07:34:05 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 06:12:40 2022. And that's entirely not true....at all. Except in your sick warped belief system of others |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 28 08:01:24 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 06:12:40 2022. I have no doubt that there are highly qualified black women on the bench. In fact, I know some excellent black female judges in Queens and Brooklyn. I’m not scared of black female judges at all.My point was that MLK dreamed of a society where people’s character mattered more than the color of their skin. Biden’s announced intention to ONLY seek a black female judge on the Supreme Court runs directly against MLK’s dream. It also smacks of affirmative action. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 28 08:14:40 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 28 08:01:24 2022. Your post is contradictory. You claim that it “smacks of affirmative action” even after saying that it is contrary to King’s vision. Well, which is it? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 28 08:36:54 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 28 08:01:24 2022. Calm down. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 28 08:41:26 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 28 08:36:54 2022. IAWTP |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jan 28 09:02:53 2022, in response to MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 27 14:20:52 2022. Wait till you see what unqualified campaign contributor he finds to nominate.Maybe we can get another Sotomayer situation where the committee gives the questions and answers to the candidate ahead of time. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:10:48 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 06:12:40 2022. How freaking stupid are you that you can't see the point? These women may be the most qualified and the most ethical in the field but they are being chosen not by the content of their character but by the color of their skin. All this stupid mother fucking moron of a president had to do was say he's choosing a person of high Character and qualification and there is no controversy but racists like you need to be reassured. King should be spinning in his grave for what you've done with his vision. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:13:24 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 03:04:00 2022. Really Fred. Private sector means you don't have to hire any black women if you don't want to. I "wonder" why jz is so accepting of your attitude. Hmmm. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jan 28 09:33:51 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:13:24 2022. When you're a Demonkkkrat you can make up whatever shit you want, even if it's illegal!That's why Spider-Pig says that Buyden doesn't have any mental declines at all. Joe is brilliant! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 09:37:44 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:10:48 2022. You are among the least qualified individuals on Earth to speak about Dr. King OR his vision, and the purpose of Biden nominating a Black woman for SCOTUS is completely beyond your grasp. Go take your little triggered snowflake self away to a corner and sulk. You'll never comprehend this. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:41:04 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 09:37:44 2022. Yup, MLK can sure rest easy knowing that you are carrying the flag for him. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:42:16 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jan 28 09:02:53 2022. So far once Brier is gone, the 3 leftists in the court are going to be the most political, and least impartial. Brier was a breath of fresh air in the court, the old school type you could talk and reason with. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jan 28 09:43:51 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 09:37:44 2022. MLK wanted us to be judged on the content of our character not the color of our skin. So, when the basis for appointment is solely based on skin color and gender, you don't find that to be an issue? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:45:33 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jan 28 09:43:51 2022. The little guy can't seem to grasp that. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 28 09:50:35 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:41:04 2022. Well, you certainly aren’t. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:51:55 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jan 28 09:33:51 2022. Democrats make up the rules as they go along. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:53:37 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 09:37:44 2022. But he is right. They may be the most qualified. Wonderful. But they aren't being chosen on their merits, they are being chosen because of a certain choice of skin color. It is an abomination for all the work that women did to get to where she was, to be chosen not by that hard work, but instead, the color of her skin (and the fact she doesn't have a dick) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:54:49 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jan 28 09:43:51 2022. That is what he is not grasping. She didn't get there because of her merits, she got there because of who she was born as. Sad. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:58:50 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 28 09:50:35 2022. Explain? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 10:09:25 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:54:49 2022. I don't mean current job, I mean future position on supreme court. Just for clarity. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 28 10:10:52 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:42:16 2022. I disagree. On many cases, Elena Kagan was to the right of Breyer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 10:19:21 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 28 10:10:52 2022. She was the better of the two obama choices, she doesn't have much controversy around her. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 28 10:35:06 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:53:37 2022. If they are the “most qualified” then they are being chosen based on their merits. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 10:45:18 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 28 09:13:24 2022. I could only hire from the pool of resumes I get. THIW. I'm not a prime contractor so I don't hire set-aside companies either, although I did when I worked wages for engineering firms. That was political tho, as someone upstairs usually knew someone so the list was short. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 28 10:50:40 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 28 10:35:06 2022. Not if they are only the most qualified of black females but would not be on a neutral list of most qualified jurists |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 28 11:00:51 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 09:42:16 2022. No, you can't reason with liberals; if you look back over the past century, they really have not been different. Only in the degree of control over bureaucracies that should not exist are things different. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 28 11:01:22 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 28 10:10:52 2022. Get specific, please. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Jan 28 11:04:38 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 28 10:10:52 2022. WHAT ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Jan 28 11:05:12 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 28 11:00:51 2022. mlk was a liberal. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 28 11:09:57 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Jan 28 11:05:12 2022. On certain issues, he was. He was fond of the phrase "social justice" too much. But at least he handled issues with respect to taking care of the poor the right way: through private charity, in spite of his other demands on government. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 28 11:11:08 2022, in response to Re: MLK’s “Dream” is Dead and Buried, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 28 11:01:22 2022. Sure, as one example her majority opinion in Kahler v. Kansas, which Justice Breyer dissented from (dissent joined by Ginsburg and Sotomayor). |
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