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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 19:37:29 2021 Here's a link to the in vitro (test tube) study review. It contains a link to the source study.Link: https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/07/a-first-small-study-suggests-omicron-is-a-larger-threat-to-covid-19-immunity-than-other-variants/ "The scientists found that, overall, there was a 41-fold reduction in neutralization against Omicron compared to an early form of the coronavirus, a substantial drop but not necessarily a devastating one." The weakness of in vitro studies is they don't directly relate to how sick a person is likely to get. We're going to have to wait for epidemiological studies to answer that question. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 20:14:47 2021, in response to First Omicron Study, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 19:37:29 2021. From your link:"Many experts have said their best guess is that Omicron is likely to lead to more breakthrough infections and reinfections, but that for most people, protection against more serious outcomes will be preserved. The new study lends credence to that hypothesis." Thats all I need to know. I'm 3x vaccinated so if I get sick, rest in bed, "Jewish" penicillin, Tylenol for fever & minimal Irish whiskey for mental health & in a week , I'll be good to go! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 7 20:23:58 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 20:14:47 2021. Yep, the data so far indicates that Omicron is more contagious, but less lethal especially if you have been vaccinated. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 20:32:09 2021, in response to First Omicron Study, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 19:37:29 2021. 
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 20:49:02 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 20:14:47 2021. their best guessThats all I need to know. I'm 3x vaccinated so if I get sick, rest in bed...I'll be good to go! So, you want to take a chance on a single, non-peer reviewed, in vitro, study. Were you one of those who condemned the expedited procedure for the vaccination approvals? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 7 21:11:31 2021, in response to First Omicron Study, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 19:37:29 2021. I'll be anxiously awaiting! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 21:46:10 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 20:49:02 2021. I only condemn hysterical paranoia. That said, I go with the facts that are out there now. Its more contagious but less lethal to those that are 3x vaccinated. What else is anyone supposed to do? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Dec 7 22:42:15 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 20:14:47 2021. sorry boss. "many experts have said" deads it for me right there. most experts i've known need to be tied up inside a rolled up rug and pushed off a mountaintop. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Dec 7 23:12:01 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 21:46:10 2021. sadly, in a scientific sense, the only way us norms can discern reality from falsehood regarding this chinese bioweapon is via inferential data.but it's enough. and what i infer from this inferential data is that the whole thing is extremely overblown. at least, as far as being extremely worried about it. ill thought out micro managing of our bodies never seems to work. macro is the way to go. i ain't worried. and i can truthfully say i wish you hadn't fallen for their scenario. |
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Re: First Omicron Study? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 8 08:08:04 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 7 20:14:47 2021. Many experts have said their best guess …If they were experts, they wouldn't have to guess. And citing unnamed "experts" is argumentum ad verecundiam. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 8 08:09:08 2021, in response to First Omicron Study, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 7 19:37:29 2021. The weakness of in vitro studies is they don't directly relate to how sick a person is likely to getSo anecdotes are more reliable? Thought so, lol. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 8 10:18:06 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by ntrainride on Tue Dec 7 23:12:01 2021. "i wish you hadn't fallen for their scenario."I'm at the stage of my life that I know more doctors than bartenders. That said, all of them (doctors) that deal with me, taking into consideration my age, medical history, etc say I should get the vaccine. It was a unanimous opinion. Now who am I to question and say they're wrong & I am right? I don't think that qualifies for "falling for their scenario" |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 8 10:25:30 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 8 10:18:06 2021. I stop listening once people mock doctors. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 8 11:12:31 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 8 10:25:30 2021. When there are doctors who deserve mocking. But only a small minority. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Dec 8 13:32:57 2021, in response to Re: First Omicron Study, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 8 10:18:06 2021. yeah. ahh, doctors. i'm willing to accept that there's a possibility that "ignorance is bliss but not exactly", meaning, not knowing overly detailed "facts" about the "condition" you have may be a way towards greater overall, um, vitality. as to exactly how that relates to specific issues you may be experiencing, who knows?mind/body. how we feel affects how we think we are affects how we are. from what i've observed people think themselves sick. or, and maybe more importantly, sicker. imagine an army where the soldiers keep hearing the generals lament at how defeated many of the soldiers are and how they're bound to lose. your body is your army. |
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