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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:54:08 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:50:57 2021. Wasn't botched? Have you watched what has happened over the last few weeks there? I'd hate to see what you would consider botched, if you think this wasn't botched, and went well. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:54:55 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:54:08 2021. Surrender isn’t pretty. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:55:56 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:53:01 2021. Except that Trump orchestrated the disaster by negotiating the release of the Taliban from prison. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:05:18 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:55:56 2021. Half a division's worth of Taliban prisoners, at that, AND their leader. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:08:10 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 13:46:39 2021. Bit I'm not a party shill. I vote for whomever is in my best interest, not a Party's interest. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:11:33 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:08:10 2021. Oh, please. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:19:49 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:54:08 2021. I’d like to hear what constitutes botched |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:21:05 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:50:20 2021. It’s withdrawal or not withdrawal that will determine the future. The manner of withdrawal has nothing to do with the future |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:21:08 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:50:20 2021. It’s withdrawal or not withdrawal that will determine the future. The manner of withdrawal has nothing to do with the future |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:21:56 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 14:28:51 2021. Such as? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:26:21 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:08:10 2021. My best interest is to defeat the Trumpist fascists. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 13 15:27:27 2021, in response to Re: Devil’s Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:31:04 2021. lol |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 13 15:28:01 2021, in response to Re: Devil’s Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 14:06:17 2021. Donald Trump has some slaining to do. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:28:05 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:45:58 2021. Cuz, you gotta stop blaming Trump for Biden being a screwup. Trump is gone, it's on Biden until January 2025. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 15:28:46 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:49:00 2021. Explain, please. How do the circumstances of withdrawal rather than the fact of withdrawal will cause problems for the United States. That staement makes no sense. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 15:29:41 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:19:49 2021. Leaving our Afghan allies behind.But that has no long term ramifications for the US, just for the individuals. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:31:47 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:28:05 2021. If Biden had reneged on Trump's agreement, you'd be complaining that our troops were still waging endless war in Afghanistan. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 15:34:40 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:31:47 2021. Of course, I wouldn’t complain as I support “endless war.” |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:42:33 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:11:33 2021. I do, so IDK why you said that? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:43:23 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:26:21 2021. Are they in a comic book, along side Obama's "death camps"? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:44:29 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:11:33 2021. 🙄 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:46:10 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 15:21:05 2021. Of course it does. If we would have done it properly, the country wouldn't be in a vacuum. When it first saw that the country was falling, a stop button should have been pushed. We kept leaving. We gave up Baghram, we have up our military equipment. WE LEFT people behind. Every aspect of this was BOTCHED. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:47:39 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 15:28:46 2021. The withdrawal could have been done many different ways, with different results. This obviously was the wrong way to do it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:47:56 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 15:29:41 2021. That is incorrect. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:48:53 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:31:47 2021. Then I guess we are3 still in endless wars with Japan, Korea, Germany, and so forth, as we have military presence in all of those countries. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 13 15:49:45 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 12:24:14 2021. Particularly if you replace the swamp with a toxic waste dump (Trump). |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 16:50:26 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:31:47 2021. It was a condition based agreement. They already had not been living up to the agreement. He even amended the date to make a political stunt around September 11th, which obviously backfired on him. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 16:54:05 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:46:10 2021. We left military equipment in a useless and unusable state.There was no opportunity to stop. What should we have done? Reïnvade? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 16:54:29 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:48:53 2021. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 16:55:29 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 16:50:26 2021. What conditions were they violating? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 17:00:33 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:48:53 2021. We're not in a shooting war with any if those countries. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 13 17:09:44 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:08:10 2021. Same boat |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:14:37 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 17:00:33 2021. We weren’t in a shooting war with the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan either.And as for Korea, why don’t you tell Capt. Arthur Bonifas and Lt. Mark Barrett that the shooting war ended in 1953? |
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Posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 17:16:20 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 13 15:49:45 2021. Yeah that’s about as toxic as it gets. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:18:13 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 13 15:49:45 2021. Excellent analogy. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 13 17:20:03 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:14:37 2021. You beat me to it. The first sentence anyway as I know nothing about Lt Barrett and Capt Bonifas. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 17:27:56 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:14:37 2021. BITCH-SLAP THAT BITCH |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:30:11 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:48:53 2021. Apples and oranges. Our troops aren’t in danger in those countries |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:31:41 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 15:29:41 2021. Right. The Taliban was going to end up with Afghanistan regardless of how the withdrawal went |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:32:46 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:47:39 2021. Other than leaving Afghanistan, or staying, what other results would there be? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:34:48 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:14:37 2021. Our troops were being attacked until we agreed to leave. Then during the time of the agreement as in from February 2020 they were not attacked. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:38:11 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 15:46:10 2021. Probably somebody found out that the Taliban was paying off the regional tribal leaders and there wasn’t going to be a war to defend Afghanistan 🇦🇫 |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:39:00 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:43:23 2021. Yeah they’re in Breitbart and the New York post 🤣 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:42:18 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 13 17:20:03 2021. Obviously I expect most people who want to know who they are to google it. I did. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:44:21 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:31:41 2021. Right. Which is why we never should have withdrawn in the first place.To clarify: I blame Trump for the shitty withdrawal deal, and Biden for actually withdrawing and honoring the deal. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:46:58 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:44:21 2021. And the Taliban would feel gypped and start shooting American troops again. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:48:28 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:46:58 2021. The Taliban are vermin and should be indiscriminately slaughtered to the extent permitted by international convention. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:55:01 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:48:28 2021. Well we haven’t done it in 20 years so what are you waiting for? 😅 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 18:21:55 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 17:27:56 2021. Bitch-slap yourself. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 18:25:07 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 17:48:28 2021. Are you volunteering, cowboy |
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