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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 09:45:47 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 21 22:48:05 2021.* Huh? You think she was not reasonabaly perceived to be threatening the lives and safety of the officer and the members of Congress he was guarding?
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 09:47:13 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sun Aug 22 00:29:31 2021.* Someone right next to her smashes a window and she immediately steps through the broken window.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 09:48:19 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sat Aug 21 22:48:14 2021.* Trump's claim didn't cost Rudy his law license. It was the false assertions he made in support of Trump's claim that did.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by mtk52983* on Sun Aug 22 09:54:36 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 22 09:34:09 2021.* But not under DC Code. Maybe under USC. You can’t combine the two. I would also question whether heckling constitutes interference because of the First Amendment issues.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 10:07:42 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Aug 22 09:54:36 2021.* Contempt of Congress is a crime.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by mtk52983* on Sun Aug 22 10:10:41 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 22 10:07:42 2021.* That is not Contempt of Congress not to mention the United States Code is irrelevant to DC Code criminal matters
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 10:12:33 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Aug 22 10:10:41 2021.* Are you suggesting USC doesn't apply in DC?
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by mtk52983* on Sun Aug 22 10:14:50 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 22 10:12:33 2021.* I am suggesting that USC is only applicable to charges brought in federal court whereas DC Code applies to state court equivalent prosecutions (since DC is not a state).
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 10:17:05 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Aug 22 09:54:36 2021.* They clearly interfered with the operation of Congress. They forced a shutdown of an active session. Anyway, even if she wasn't technically a burglar under DC code, she certainly was reasonably perceived to be threatening the lives and safety of the people the police officer was charged with protecting. She was not just an obviously harmless trespasser.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by CHicagomotorman* on Sun Aug 22 10:21:36 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sat Aug 21 22:48:14 2021.* And I suppose you agree that Giuliani should be disbarred for just giving an opinion?
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 10:38:11 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sun Aug 22 10:21:36 2021.* He didn’t just give an opinion, he lied to a Court.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Dave* on Sun Aug 22 10:40:43 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 22 03:03:00 2021.* You beat me to it!
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Dave* on Sun Aug 22 10:41:25 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 09:48:19 2021.* Same difference.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by mtk52983* on Sun Aug 22 10:42:02 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 10:17:05 2021.* I agree with the first sentence of your second paragraph.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Dave* on Sun Aug 22 10:44:22 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 22 10:38:11 2021.* What he said. That's the distinction, Irwin. If Rudy wasn't representing Trump and was just speaking with the press, he can say whatever he wants. But when you make a statement to a judge during a hearing, it needs to be the truth.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by The Silence* on Sun Aug 22 10:56:16 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:44:09 2021.* the idiots who invaded that national park visitor center a few years back were "assholes who got out of hand". This was a direct attack on the US government. there is NO excuse. NO justification for what happened that day.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by The Silence* on Sun Aug 22 11:01:18 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 14:13:05 2021.* There is no double standard because they are not equal. A police station is not the fucking Capitol Building of the United States. You guys keep going on and on with this "Whataboutism" over the BLM protests where rioting and looting broke out. No one with common sense supports the looters. But 1/6 was in a completely different category. That was full blown DOMESTIC TERRORISM and it should be treated as such. Ashli Babbitt was a TERRORIST. A TRATOR to the very government she swore an oath to defend.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 11:17:59 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 22 11:01:18 2021.* But furthermore, let's just assume for the sake of argument that Ashli Babbitt did not commit a single crime in her entire life. Her action of charging through a just-broken door window at a police officer responsible for the lives and safety of a group of unarmed civilians, with a rioting mob directly behind her, sufficed for the police officer to perceive a grave and imminent danger.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by CHicagomotorman* on Sun Aug 22 11:31:35 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 22 10:44:22 2021.* Maybe he believes it's the truth.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 11:53:03 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sun Aug 22 11:31:35 2021.* He said to a judge that the PA case was a voter fraud case and that it was not a voter fraud case. It's impossible for both his statements, made under oath, to be true. Perhaps senility is a defense. I don't know.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 12:07:27 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 19:48:35 2021.* Perhaps because the "cop" who shot her was not really a cop. The mob that took.over the Capitol was heavily infiltrated with under cover FBI aggitators
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by CHicagomotorman* on Sun Aug 22 12:07:50 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 11:53:03 2021.* This is between Dave and I.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 12:11:11 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 22 11:01:18 2021.* Where is the "fucking capital" of the United States. Are we talking about an LBTGQ capital or a straight capital? Fucking is fucking, after all.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Fred G* on Sun Aug 22 12:14:16 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 22 11:01:18 2021.* The righties don't consider them traitors because they represent their version of America, one where democracy has become useless because it doesn't achieve their authoritarian goals.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 12:14:21 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 11:17:59 2021.* Agreed!
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Posted by Fred G* on Sun Aug 22 12:17:10 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 12:11:11 2021.* I'd say it's Intercourse, PA, although Climax, GA is up and coming.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 12:19:48 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 12:07:27 2021.* The mob that took.over the Capitol was heavily infiltrated with under cover FBI aggitators You have no evidence or proof whatsoever to support this lie. Perhaps because the "cop" who shot her was not really a cop. That's an even more disgusting lie. Why do you persist in posting fabrications like these?
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 12:20:13 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 22 12:14:16 2021.* IAWTP
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 12:22:33 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sun Aug 22 12:07:50 2021.* No, it’s not. You are not asking for his opinion you are stating purported facts.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 12:23:04 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 11:53:03 2021.* He filed a complaint stating one thing, and mischaracterized it in front of the judge.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 12:23:31 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 12:11:11 2021.* You seem to be obsessed with the LGHTQ communi. Canimagine why... 🤔
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 12:23:53 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 12:07:27 2021.* You are such a braindead cultist.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 12:25:29 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 22 12:14:16 2021.* I’ve always been somewhat of an anti-nationalist, but this sort of thing has convinced me that nationalism is a pernicious ideology that belongs, with communism and fascism, on the ash heap of history.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Aug 22 12:52:53 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 22 10:56:16 2021.* This was a direct attack on the US government If so, then the Capitol Police are complicit. Either that or you're a bit mindless.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Murdered Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Aug 22 13:18:54 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 12:11:11 2021.* I keep hearing that it's actually outside the USA, in Montréal.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 13:37:11 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Aug 22 10:14:50 2021.* PWN3D
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 13:41:07 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 22 10:38:11 2021.* Every time a lawyer claims that his client is innocent when he knows that he's guilty, he does the same thing
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 13:42:59 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Aug 22 10:14:50 2021.* Hmm..USC was cited, more than once, by Capitol Police officers testifying at the Congressional hearings about Jan. 6.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 13:49:03 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 22 13:42:59 2021.* This entire subthread is only about whether Babitt qualifies for the description "burglar." So perhaps she doesn't. So what? The cop still had a reasonable expectation that the lives of the people he was protecting were in danger.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Aug 22 14:04:32 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 09:45:47 2021.* Since she was unarmed, what exactly did she do to justify deadly force?
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Posted by Fred G* on Sun Aug 22 14:09:21 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 22 14:04:32 2021.* These sound like BLM questions.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 22 14:24:44 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 22 14:04:32 2021.* Have a mob right behind her that had threatened legislators with death. How does one cop stop dozens of people who appear to be attacking the people he is required to protect?
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 14:27:17 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 22 13:49:03 2021.*
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Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 14:31:24 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 22 12:19:48 2021.* "You have no evidence or proof whatsoever to support this lie." Prove that it's a lie, mini-bitch!
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Aug 22 14:32:20 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 22 12:23:53 2021.*
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 14:36:36 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 22 14:09:21 2021.* Yup. When I asked that exact same question regarding: Eric Garner George Floyd Oscar Grant Botham Jean Breanna Taylor Dreasjon Reed Ahmaud Arbery David McEntee Alton Sterling The usual suspects found all kinds of reasons to justify their killings. It's kind of ironic to now see them defending Ashli Babbitt when we all know that if this was a Black woman of BLM, they'd be piling on to defend the cop.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 22 14:38:52 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 14:31:24 2021.* It's a lie, and you cannot prove otherwise. You made the claims, but we all know you can't back them up with a credible link, so STFU, scumbreath.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by CHicagomotorman* on Sun Aug 22 14:43:24 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 22 12:22:33 2021.* Figures
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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 14:56:16 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 22 13:41:07 2021.* No, that's not the same.
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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Aug 22 14:58:03 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 22 14:36:36 2021.* Those people were all "thugs".
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