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What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021

I don't know if NYC is the only ones doing this in the US, but what are they considering proof of vaccination? Is it just a crumpled up card that's probably forged, or an app like the rest of the world uses?
I'm curious and not curious enough to look it up.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Allan on Fri Aug 13 10:25:05 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.

NJ uses the CDC cards as well.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 13 10:33:20 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.

A genuine vaccination card has the CDC and HHS logos on it, the person's name and date of birth, and information showing the vaccine type, location administered, and lot number. Authenticity can be verified by cross-referencing this information with the database maintained by the government for this purpose.

People creating forgeries do not have access to this data, so things like lot numbers shown on fake vaccination cards won't match items like date and place given.


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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 13 10:47:36 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.

The lack of a uniform, accessible vaccination database is one of many shortcomings. I'm sure some people will use the resulting problems as proof voter registrations are equally insecure.

There is a "NYS Vaccination Passport". It can be downloaded and printed off the web. It contains a QR code. It and some form of ID are supposed to be required for proof of vaccination.

Like most checks, the security of the ID is secondary to how well it is checked. If it's as rigorous as an age check for buying alcohol or tobacco products, Covid will continue to spread.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Aug 13 11:07:25 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.

fake ones are probably already available.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 11:44:22 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 13 10:33:20 2021.

Should I expect to see a boom on laminating sales? That doesn't sound like the type of thing I want to carry out to the bar and lose.

Part of my reason for asking was what Bauman referred to. How vigilant are people going to be checking the database. Sounds like only if cops raid a place will it go that far. I was hoping for an app. I thought NYC had a digital everything going on a few years ago.

I think there's a South American country using blockchain for this exact purpose.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 11:46:27 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 13 10:47:36 2021.

"If it's as rigorous as an age check for buying alcohol or tobacco products, Covid will continue to spread."


That's part of my concern.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 13 11:52:33 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 11:44:22 2021.

Staples and Office Depot have been laminating vaccine cards for free since March.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Aug 13 12:23:51 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.

I have it on my phone

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 13 12:24:07 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.

The "rest of the world" is looking into using biometrics. And they laugh at stuff like Revelation 13:16 while it's coming to life right before their eyes . . .

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 13 12:33:57 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 13 11:52:33 2021.

Which is a bad idea when you want your booster shot info added on

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 12:35:48 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by ntrainride on Fri Aug 13 11:07:25 2021.

I see headlines about this being rife and not so rare.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 12:36:45 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 13 12:24:07 2021.

I thought they had biometrics for passports in some places. California tech companies are helping China track everything that breathes or doesn't breathe.
If this is a concern, we're already on that road without the assistance of a plague.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 13 13:17:50 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 13 12:33:57 2021.

It also doesn't fit in your wallet once laminated.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 13 13:24:02 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 13 10:33:20 2021.

My son got a legit vaccination card, first shot by the NYPD at the police academy, second shot at CVS pharmacy, yet the state cannot find him in the system and cannot get him an Excelsior pass. We went back to CVS and everything in their records match his card. I also had a problem but that's because the girl at Aqueduct misspelled my name on the card. I got the excelsior pass with the misspelled name.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 13 14:44:18 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 13 13:24:02 2021.

As far as I know the paper card satisfies all requirements.


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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 13 15:01:28 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 13 13:24:02 2021.

I was able to get my DOB fixed on the Excelsior Pass, but I got the vaccine from the City of NY, not the state. But there was a form that I filled out and then they told me that my vaccine was by the city and told me to deal with the city.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 13 15:35:34 2021, in response to What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 13 10:20:17 2021.



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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 13 16:08:24 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 13 14:44:18 2021.

But it's a pain to carry around especially since it's not wallet size.

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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 13 16:13:18 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 13 16:08:24 2021.

True. I don't need it much at all, but I guess you need it a lot more.



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Re: What is proof of vaccination?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 13 16:14:58 2021, in response to Re: What is proof of vaccination?, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 13 16:13:18 2021.

Isn't it the other way around? You live in the city, I don't. Anyway I do have the Excelsior Pass, it's my son that can't get it.

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