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Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 09:23:10 2021

...go the gas prices at the pump. Overnight price per gallon in SW Pennsylvania went to $3.09 a gallon with predictions of topping $4 by Memorial Day. That with the Pa Tnpk being the most expensive toll road in the country, its time to hop on the "Pennsylvanian" for my next NYC trip. Got to check out what the fares are nowadays. Haven't done that in awhile. Hopefully, Amtrak can save me a few $$$.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 09:41:03 2021, in response to Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 09:23:10 2021.

Can't blame it all on biden. Oh fuck, yes we can. The man is a low grade moron

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Re: Up, Up and Away!!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 7 10:00:48 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 09:41:03 2021.

Just for the record:
  • "Moron" refers to a mental age of between 6 and 9
  • "Imbecile" refers to a mental age of between 3 and 6
  • "Idiot" refers to a mental age of 3 or younger
So the "low-grade" would be closer to age 6 than to 9.

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Re: Up, Up and Away!!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 7 10:03:27 2021, in response to Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 09:23:10 2021.

Have to cheer myself up.



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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 09:41:03 2021.

Actually, the increase in gas prices is s result of COVID-related supply chain disruptions, which can be traced back to your Lord and Savior's gross negligence in handling the pandemic.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 7 10:20:09 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021.

Supply chain disruptions over a year after the first confirmed cases? Hahahaha.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:31:42 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 7 10:20:09 2021.

Yes, because of recurrent spikes in the number of COVID cases.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 10:41:32 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021.

OMG, you can't even admit this is Bjden

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:45:49 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 10:41:32 2021.

In my opinion, the causes of this increase in gas prices were set in motion long before Biden was sworn in. In any case, Biden hasn't been in office long enough (or done anything drastic enough) to trigger such a rapid spike in natural-resource prices.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 10:50:07 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021.

I wonder if there’s also an effect from people doing more driving instead of flying.

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Re: Up, Up and Away!!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 10:54:20 2021, in response to Re: Up, Up and Away!!, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 7 10:03:27 2021.

Saw that coming!

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:54:33 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 10:50:07 2021.

That's entirely possible. The transport network might not have anticipated increased demand so (relatively) soon, while dealing with gaps in the supply chain.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 7 10:56:04 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021.

Umm, no. Increases are due to: 1) refineries shut down in TX due to the freeze; 2) expectations of a rapidly improved economy as more are vaccinated and more states open up (remove mask mandates) to 100% dining in restaurants, gyms, etc.; 3) Biden's aim is to raise gasoline prices to where solar and wind are price-competitive.

This article is very informative re: at what price point does renewable energy make more sense to build and use than non-renewable.

https://think.ing.com/articles/wind-and-solar-get-increasingly-cheaper

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 10:57:34 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 09:41:03 2021.

The official line is lower production due to all the power shortages around the Texas refineries and increase demand due to the ease of Covid restrictions. You can take all that for what its worth.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 12:14:33 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:31:42 2021.

Add to that the disruptions because texas’s didn’t properly regulate their electric grid, and it crashed. Bear in mind the weather system that did it in is rare, it has a history. This wasn't a complete fluke. Cold like this has happened to them before.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 12:31:26 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:45:49 2021.

He stopped the pipeline.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 12:54:49 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 12:31:26 2021.

Which has nothing to do with their ability to crack crude oil, or deliver same to end users. Crude continues to arrive via rail to refineries as it has for the longest time.

What we've lost are the smaller regional refineries which used to serve geographic areas, so losing one region's facilities only meant a smaller disruption as those around make up the difference. Now everyone suffers if something happens to texass.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 13:16:24 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 12:31:26 2021.

Nah, thats not it. Pipeline or no pipeline, the oil will still get here.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 13:37:15 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 12:31:26 2021.

That pipeline wasn’t completed, and in any event there already is a pipeline between Alberta and Texas.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 14:01:39 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 12:54:49 2021.

WABB

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 14:54:32 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 14:01:39 2021.

Nope.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 7 15:10:45 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021.

NO...of course it couldn't be policy changes and executive orders beginning Jan 20th

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 7 15:12:02 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 10:50:07 2021.

And of course, that wasn't going on all last year when people weren't flying and driving already to destinations

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 7 15:13:27 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:45:49 2021.

No? He changed the petroleum market instantly with executive order and policy on Jan 20th

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 15:15:40 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 7 15:13:27 2021.

Name one executive order.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 15:20:52 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 14:54:32 2021.

😘

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 7 15:32:30 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 12:14:33 2021.

Cold like this has happened to them before.

Somebody dropped the ball.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 7 15:50:52 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 15:15:40 2021.

I'm sure Chris can explain how, in addition to the Keystone Pipeline helping Canada export Alberta oil more cheaply from ports in the Gulf of Mexico, rather than having to ship it to the Great Lakes or Prince Rupert, the cancelation also has raised US gasoline prices.


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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 7 16:15:13 2021, in response to Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 09:23:10 2021.

Oh. I thought you live in queens.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 16:23:11 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 15:15:40 2021.

He can't.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 7 16:51:04 2021, in response to Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 09:23:10 2021.



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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 16:53:20 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 7 16:51:04 2021.



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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 7 17:00:26 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 16:53:20 2021.

Lol

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Mar 7 17:18:38 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 7 16:51:04 2021.

UH HUH !!

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 17:28:49 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 7 16:15:13 2021.

Used to. Spent the first 35 years of my life there. After retiring, moved to Pa. to be close to the grandkids. Still have family in Queens, Mineola & Lindenhurst. Go back from time to time.

Reminds me of an old joke:

Q: Are you from Queens?

A: No, my parents were straight! (sorry!)


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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 17:30:49 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 10:06:58 2021.

Actually, if there were supply chain disruptions, we'd see shortages, perhaps just isolated shortages, at the pump. What you are seeing is the market pull back due to anticipated shortages because of biden imposed drilling restrictions. Future shortages that make current supply more valuable. But to your point, only another low grade moron would agree with your guess.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 17:32:18 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 12:54:49 2021.

The other.low grade moron puts her 2 cents worth in.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 17:33:56 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 7 15:15:40 2021.

No drilling on federal land.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 17:35:11 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 17:30:49 2021.

What "Biden imposed drilling restrictions"?

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 7 17:37:23 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 7 17:35:11 2021.

Biden has taken federal land off the market for future drilling of oil and gas.

Given that huge amounts of oil and gas in private hands aren't being drilled because of a glut (see unemployment rates in North Dakota), this will have an effect on fossil fuel supply in about 2040.



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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 7 17:53:04 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 7 17:37:23 2021.

"this will have an effect on fossil fuel supply in about 2040."

LOLA1M!

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 18:12:24 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 15:20:52 2021.

Go tuck yourself

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 18:13:37 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 7 17:37:23 2021.

Are you bingbong posting under another handle

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 18:16:43 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 18:12:24 2021.

Hey by the way, I heard that your High School graduation picture was an aerial photo. Do you have any copies left?

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 7 18:54:31 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 7 17:28:49 2021.

I like Lindenhurst. That is another one of those LI towns that people from my Queens neighborhood were moving to in the 70's and 80's.

Lindenhurst, Deer Park, Babylon, Brentwood, and Bay Shore.

In PA you can but raw milk at your supermarket. I bet it's $20 a gallon. I'd but it though.

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 7 18:58:56 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 18:12:24 2021.

Tuck??

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 19:51:06 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 7 18:12:24 2021.

Into your bed?

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 19:52:46 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 19:51:06 2021.

Go for it, my brother. Post pictures

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 19:53:48 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 19:52:46 2021.

I mean, what else would she mean?

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Re: Up-Up and Away!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 7 19:54:50 2021, in response to Re: Up-Up and Away!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 7 19:53:48 2021.

You can tell from her responses to you that she wants you. I'm envious.

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