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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:18:05 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. who agrees?JayZeeBMT AlM Spider dand Joe V Fred G Tony G clearaspect bingbong Dutch jimmymc25 SUBWAYMAN |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 07:20:22 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. False equivalency. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 07:30:42 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 07:20:22 2021. You know I'm right.Let's see if Spider has a funnier reply. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 07:33:59 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 07:20:22 2021. IAWTP |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 3 08:33:20 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. No, they are quite consistent. I agree about the other two. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:43:58 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 07:20:22 2021. Consider the source |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 11:37:55 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 07:20:22 2021. How so? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 11:38:44 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 11:37:55 2021. What protected class was SHS part of that she was discriminated against for that reason? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 11:44:46 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 11:38:44 2021. Is having special "protected classes" even consistent with the notion of "equal protection of the law" for everyone? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 11:49:38 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 11:44:46 2021. Yes, because everyone is a member of a protected class. Everyone has a race, or a gender, or a sexual orientation, etc. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 12:04:10 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 11:49:38 2021. I'm kind of playing Devil's advocate here, but I wonder: if Ms. Sanders was black, would banning her from a restaurant because of her politics receive the same kind of support? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 12:10:34 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 12:04:10 2021. For a Trump appointee, yes. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 12:27:56 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 12:04:10 2021. Store owners have put up signs saying no Biden supporters allowed here. Presumably that includes both white and black ones. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 12:30:19 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. Just how many years late are you with this, #37? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 14:53:15 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 11:38:44 2021. Notice her name is Sarah. That is a popular evangelical name like Rebecca.Thanks for posting my point about the sickness that is liberalism. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:01:14 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 14:53:15 2021. You, and the other conservatives, are hypocrites. You claim to be all about free enterprise and here you are complaining that a business owner ran his business the way he saw fit. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 15:06:50 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:01:14 2021. No.I am complaining that your element wants two sets of rules. If one is wrong so is the other. Just like Cuomo and Kavanaugh. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:45:07 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. The left is tolerant only for those that agree with them. Otherwise descriminate away. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:47:36 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 11:49:38 2021. Yes. But it's not consistent. It's fine to have Black pride for example, but imagine if someone is happy being white.It's great to have "hispanic culture" or "black culture". |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:48:19 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 12:04:10 2021. No. Because then it would be because "she is black", no matter the reason |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:49:26 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 12:10:34 2021. No.For example. It's okay to have all black people in a commercial. Or black and white. But no longer acceptable to have an all white family commercial |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:50:20 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 12:27:56 2021. But "no trump supporters" is wonderful of course. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:51:50 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 15:06:50 2021. Exactly. I have no problem with "black pride club", or name something, but the opposite is not allowed. It's not like I even think that's a good thing, but people lost the right to be complete assholes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:57:02 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:47:36 2021. That has nothing to do with discrimination in public accommodations. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:57:45 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:48:19 2021. I don’t think so, at least when it came to a prominent member of the Trump administration. How many people called Secretary Carson an Uncle Tom? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:58:55 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:49:26 2021. I agree with you, that is racist, but I was responding to Dan’s specific point, that ceteris paribus, if SHS were black. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:59:17 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:50:20 2021. Where do you get that? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 16:30:08 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:50:20 2021. Huh?The general reaction was that the store owner was a moron but within his rights (not that he could ever figure out which of his customers were Biden supporters). |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 19:40:34 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 15:57:45 2021. That's because they have self-hate. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 19:43:03 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:49:26 2021. Unless they're made to look like total buffoons. If ANY other race is meant to look like that, it's somehow "racist". |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 19:45:46 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 3 15:51:50 2021. I have no problem with that, as I'm not a delicate flower getting offended over every little thing. Of course I think having white pride is 👌 as well. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 19:53:41 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. There's a big difference. The restaurant refused to serve Sanders. The bakery never refused to serve the customer, while I thought they were being stupid, they just couldn't make that particular cake. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 19:54:55 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 19:53:41 2021. The bakery refused to do the gay wedding cake. That IS refusal of service. |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Mar 3 21:06:00 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. if leftists didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any at all. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 22:33:34 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 19:54:55 2021. You definitely prove you are a bigger asshole every day. Go into a Chinese restaurant and order beef lo mein and there is no problem. Go into the same restaurant and ask for penny Ala vodka with meatballs and they will not serve you because it's not on the menu. . Gay wedding cake was not on the menu. Suck it up and move on. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 3 22:48:56 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 22:33:34 2021. There were some facts that were unclear as both sides had conflicting stories. There is some question about whether he was refused any menu item or whether he was just refused a customized item. If he went in and asked for the sheet cake in the display and was denied it because he was going to use it at a gay wedding that would be like going to Chinese restaurant that has Beef Lo Mein on the menu and being denied it because the chef did not like where you would be eating it. If he was only denied a custom item that would be more akin to your Penne a la Vodka analogy. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 23:17:55 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 3 22:48:56 2021. I like Shanghai noodles with seafood. There are 2 Chinese takeout equi-distance from my house. When I want Shanghai noodles I go to the place where it's on the menu. You want a gay wedding cake (whatever that is) go to a place that makes them. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 00:01:49 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 22:33:34 2021. lol."...i kept asking him for bread; he said "this is a chinese restaurant, we have no bread!" but we conned him, he brought us the bread." |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 07:41:23 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 23:17:55 2021. Both sides were just being stubborn assholes just to make a point. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 08:06:36 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 00:01:49 2021. Archie Bunker |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 08:16:54 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 22:33:34 2021. Producing custom wedding cakes was a service the bakery not only normally provided, they advertised that fact. At no time did this bakery specifically say "EXCEPT GAY WEDDING CAKES", until actual gay customers entered the shop and tried to order one.You are pathetic. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 08:37:24 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 08:16:54 2021. And yet you keep responding to me. Are you an attention where or do you have a daddy issue? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 08:38:03 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 08:37:24 2021. LOL @ Traitor Dude |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 08:53:46 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 08:16:54 2021. And yet you keep responding to me. Are you an attention where or do you have a daddy issue? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 08:55:39 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 08:38:03 2021. Definitely an attention whore |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 08:57:35 2021, in response to The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:15:51 2021. What exactly constitutes a "gay wedding cake" and why are the liberals so paralyzed that they can't deal effectively with the issue? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 09:03:44 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 08:06:36 2021. ralph kramden.from the roller skating episode. the one where ralph gives his pin to alice. and you can hear the kids in the audience watching the filming (at the adelphi theatre on west fifty fourth street) shouting out to ralph as he wobbled on the skates. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 09:29:51 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 08:53:46 2021. You responded to me to begin with, but I'm an "attention whore"?Stop gaslighting, traitor. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Mar 4 09:31:43 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 07:41:23 2021. From reading the record that sounds pretty accurate. Based on the Constitution and the applicable statutes I think there is a very solid "bright line" rule in these types of cases. If you ask for any stock product from the display cases or a menu that you can pay then the baker can't control where the cake is used. However, as soon as the patron asks for any customization (even if it is just writing on the top) then the baker is free to refuse service. This can be applied to other areas like floral design (if you offer certain stock centerpieces you can't dictate the events they are used at). |
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