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Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021


The order will go into effect next Wednesday


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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 17:05:42 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

The left is emotionally invested in this not working out.



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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 2 17:09:38 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

They are taking a big chance doing this. I think we should wait until more people are vaccinated and the case load , hospitalations and death rates goes way down.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 2 17:10:55 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

That's a really bad idea. Way too soon.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 2 17:14:04 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 2 17:09:38 2021.

Exactly. As it stands, the state has fallen behind on vaccinations due to the storm, and the collapse of their power and water systems in much of the state. The rest of the nation doesn't need to shoulder another spike because some governor is caving to ill-conceived RW pressure. This is still an ongoing pandemic emergency.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 2 17:26:22 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

Stupid. Open all businesses fully but still mandate the masks except where they specifically interfere with the conduct of business (like as a diner in a restaurant).

The dropping of the mask mandate will kill thousands unnecessarily.



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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 2 17:32:19 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 2 17:10:55 2021.

Yup, masks and destroying the NY economy has sure saves lives.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 2 17:43:25 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 2 17:09:38 2021.

BIG IAWTP

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Mar 2 18:10:02 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

Dumb



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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 18:21:26 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

Good

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 18:21:54 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 2 17:43:25 2021.

figures

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 18:22:19 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 2 17:32:19 2021.

Yup

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 18:22:36 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Mar 2 18:10:02 2021.

Yes you are.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 19:01:33 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 2 17:14:04 2021.

"Ongoing pandemic emergency". I would agree with that if 20-30-40% of our population died or was seriously I'll from it, but under 1%? That's in the same league as getting hit by a train.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 19:02:04 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 17:05:42 2021.

100% agree!!!

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 19:02:35 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 2 17:10:55 2021.

Nah.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 19:02:57 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 2 17:32:19 2021.

Yep

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 2 19:10:22 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 19:01:33 2021.

Um, in what year did 30% of the country get hit by a train and 1/2% of those people died?





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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 19:12:11 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 19:02:04 2021.

Everyday they will check covid counts in Texas.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 20:22:04 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 19:12:11 2021.

AlM
Bauman
Spider
JayZeeBMT
Bingbong
Joe V
Fred G
Osmosis
12-9
Clearaspect

All are emotionally invested in Texas failing at going back to normal.


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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 20:52:46 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 19:12:11 2021.

They would rather hundreds or thousands die than it be a success. THIW.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 20:54:40 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 2 19:10:22 2021.

They didn't. I think you misread my ximment.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 21:10:26 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 20:22:04 2021.

And Jeff Rosen.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 21:11:45 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 21:10:26 2021.

Who?

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 21:11:46 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 21:10:26 2021.

Who?

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 21:16:22 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 21:11:45 2021.

Jeff Rosen. He posts here.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 21:22:07 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 21:16:22 2021.

Right now I'm working on a List and hoping for a GTL thread from Fisk Ave.

Also working on a shopping list which is much different than how most people eat.

Its sad that people like Tony G want Texas to fail.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:14:26 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 2 17:26:22 2021.

Businesses can still require masks.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:20:01 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:14:26 2021.

Businesses can still require masks where hospitalizations remain high.

(Sorry, I posted too quick before.)

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 01:58:43 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 21:22:07 2021.

Not just Texas.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 01:59:16 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:14:26 2021.

Of course.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 02:00:09 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:20:01 2021.

But again, they don't have too.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 3 07:36:29 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 02:00:09 2021.

Correct.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 3 07:47:00 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:14:26 2021.

lol, at this rate, I expect them to allow people who don't wear pants or shoes to shop.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 3 07:47:38 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 2 17:09:38 2021.

California, and Michigan is loosening restrictions as well.
In America it's about managing the ill, not preventing.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 3 07:49:50 2021, in response to Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 16:53:41 2021.

But the asshole won't let you get a vaccine. If they were allowed to vaccinate that would be one thing, but instead they're doing it the typical American way.

There are only 4 groups allowed to vaccinate in Texas.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 3 09:15:35 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 2 21:22:07 2021.

"...hoping for a GTL thread from Fisk Ave"

A Work in progress!

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 09:31:24 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:20:01 2021.

Do you disagree with my assertion that this changed provision will cause thousands of needless deaths?

There have been many articles over the last year showing that it is almost impossible for stores to enforce mask requirements if the state makes the requirement optional for store management rather than a mandate.




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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:36:39 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 09:31:24 2021.

Do we even have a mask mandate in NYS or is it just the establishment's choice. BTW, while I definitely believe in masks indoors I absolutely NEVER wear one outside and laugh when I see people with masks on outdoors, especially when someone is driving SOLO in vehicles!!

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:37:19 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 3 07:47:00 2021.

Walmart

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 09:50:03 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:36:39 2021.

I wear my mask outdoors when I am in, or likely to be in, close proximity with other people.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Mar 3 10:16:04 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:36:39 2021.

I don’t wear one outdoors either. I think the people driving in the personal cars alone by themselves are ridiculous. The walking down the street masked up in open air I don’t think is necessary either. I encounter more people walking down the street in the Bronx that are masked up than not.


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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Mar 3 10:19:48 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:36:39 2021.

I agree that it doesn't make sense when driving solo. But I have to admit, if I have it on and it is comfortable, and I am just going a block or two from somewhere I had it on and will have to put it back on, in a couple of minutes, it usually isn't worth taking it off. I'm sure people see that wonder.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 11:28:49 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:36:39 2021.

Do we even have a mask mandate in NYS or is it just the establishment's choice.

My understanding is NY has a mandate. It is not enforced, in the sense of a store owner being given a summons, but it gives more authority than basic trespassing law for a store manager to toss out an unmasked customer.

In the last year, in many cases of states without mask mandates, as tore owner could not get police cooperation in kicking out an unmasked customer.

As for outside, I think the density of people on the sidewalk is less where you are than where I am. I've encountered tens of thousands of people (crossing paths within less than 10 feet) outside in the last year.





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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Mar 3 11:32:23 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 2 18:21:54 2021.

WHAT ????????????????????

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 11:37:31 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 11:28:49 2021.

"I've encountered tens of thousands of people (crossing paths within less than 10 feet) outside in the last year."

For 15 minutes or more??

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 11:55:04 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 09:50:03 2021.

We appreciate that.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 3 12:26:47 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 11:37:31 2021.

No. Plenty of people have gotten covid without being exposed to a covid-infected individual maskless for 15 minutes or more. Longer is more dangerous, but short exposure is not danger-free.

My wife's second cousin was fine last Nov 25 and deceased by Dec 25. She and her husband flew from AZ to PA, taking all precautions, socialized with her husband's children, and returned to AZ. The children did not have covid; she and her husband got it; she died. She was 74 and in good health.

No hint of her having been exposed for 15 minutes or more to an infected individual.



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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:48:10 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 3 07:47:00 2021.

It'll be some "cultural discrimination" case.

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Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 14:17:33 2021, in response to Re: Texas Gov. Abbott announces plan to fully reopen businesses, end state mask mandate, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 2 22:14:26 2021.

But not the opposite when the government mandates the masks?

You seem to have let Washington Compost anti-mask articles go down the memory hole too.

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