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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:22:24 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 19:36:16 2021.

Locked up for what?

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:23:47 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:41:04 2021.

He's only human!

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:24:36 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:41:59 2021.

This happened after the gathering.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 20:25:34 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 19:49:07 2021.

The phone call to Georgia was criminal. In fact, he's being investigated for it.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 20:25:53 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:23:47 2021.

Doubtful

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:27:08 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 19:46:12 2021.

The dems were smart to fight and have a judge overrule the Republicans, when it came to the whole mail in ballots shebang. The Republicans wanted watermarks, marching signatures, ID, etc... the Dems knew they couldn't have those safeguards in place, so they got them tossed.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 20:27:19 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:16:53 2021.

You "heard" wrong.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:31:08 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:16:33 2021.

So suppose a bunch of people peeled off a peaceful BLM protest and looted a store. And the police arrest a bunch of them. One guy's defense is, well the door to the store was open and I just walked in. You seem to be saying what he did is no big deal.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:31:41 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:16:53 2021.

Well, you obviously seriously misheard then.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:32:30 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:31:08 2021.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:32:32 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:22:24 2021.

Bank fraud. Bribery.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:33:37 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:31:41 2021.

Nooooo...

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:34:32 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:27:08 2021.

In other words, the judges rules that the law did not call for the election to be overturned because of the minor issues that the plaintiffs demonstrated. No Trump-supporting plaintiff ever asserted, much less proved, significant fraud.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:36:22 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:32:30 2021.

Are you saying just milling about in the Capitol is a major offense, or no big deal?


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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:37:42 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:32:32 2021.

That hasn't been proven. This is exactly the same reason why I always said that Hillary is not going to prison because she hasn't been convicted of anything. So to be fair, I say the same about him.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:39:06 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 20:25:53 2021.

Says the woman who wants to sleep with him!

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 20:39:53 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:17:31 2021.

FALSE!

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:40:02 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:34:32 2021.

The Dems made sure of that. (Newman laughing)

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 20:40:40 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 19:44:24 2021.

No.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 20:40:43 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:37:42 2021.

It hasn’t been proven yet.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 20:42:10 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:24:36 2021.

Which is why the MAGApparel had nothing to do with it.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:47:42 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 20:36:22 2021.

Personally, I don't think it is. Legally, I know it is. But this is STILL not what I said.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:50:00 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 20:40:43 2021.

For who, Donald or Killary?

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:51:03 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 20:39:53 2021.

Nah, just your opinion.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:58:56 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 20:42:10 2021.

The airlines decided to watch anyone returning with MAGAwear on, and to drop the hammer on them

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 21:00:01 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:58:56 2021.

If they did that then it would also have prevented them from flying into DC in the first place.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 21:08:31 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 21:00:01 2021.

Again, I'm talking about after the gathering.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 21:32:17 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 21:08:31 2021.

No, you’re talking about them being banned from flying.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 21:32:18 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 21:08:31 2021.

No, you’re talking about them being banned from flying.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 22:02:27 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:58:56 2021.

That's not illogical, given what happened.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 02:57:04 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 21:32:17 2021.

Yes, AFTER the gathering.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 03:02:23 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 22:02:27 2021.

How would they know who trespassed on the Capitol grounds and were violent, or who just went to see the speech? Answer is, they wouldn't.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jan 14 07:00:42 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 19:44:24 2021.

the hag is indicative of the typical biden lover. you know, those bitches driving suvs who refuse to veer an inch if you're walking down a road without a sidewalk as they drive past you. been times when their side view mirrors miss my head by inches.

it's pathetic. i can hardly wait to see how they react when their "leader" starts demonstrating just how weak and incompetent the coot really is. when they have to pay five dollars for a gallon of gas. when they're forced to let homeless people squat in their homes. when, ultimately, they become the "scorned folk".

i have nothing to lose. so i can't hardly wait to see their suffering when the shit gets real. maybe i'll loot their homes.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jan 14 07:05:01 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 19:44:24 2021.

the hag is indicative of the typical biden lover. you know, those bitches driving suvs who refuse to veer an inch if you're walking down a road without a sidewalk as they drive past you. been times when their side view mirrors miss my head by inches.

but she is the kind of person who voted for that shithead.

it's pathetic. i can hardly wait to see how they react when their "leader" starts demonstrating just how weak and incompetent the coot really is. when they have to pay five dollars for a gallon of gas. when they're forced to let homeless people squat in their homes. when, ultimately, they become the "scorned folk".

i have nothing to lose. so i can't hardly wait to see their suffering when the shit gets real. maybe i'll loot their homes.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 08:06:56 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 03:02:23 2021.

They wouldn't. And they only banned people from flying for inappropriate behavior at the airport or on airplanes, not for invading the Capitol. The title of this thread conveys an incorrect impression.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 08:09:33 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 02:57:04 2021.

But not because of their participation in the gathering.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 12:40:37 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 08:09:33 2021.

There's no way for the airlines to tell!

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 12:44:01 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 08:06:56 2021.

Yeah...THAT'S why....

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 12:52:52 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 12:40:37 2021.

Exactly.

But the airlines can tell if a passenger is not wearing a mask or is excessively rowdy, or does not obey airline personnel instructions. Those are the causes for which they got booted, not participation in legal or illegal events in DC.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 13:10:26 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 12:52:52 2021.

Again, I have a bridge to sell you.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 14:15:14 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 13:10:26 2021.

You're so gullible!

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 14 14:20:03 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 08:06:56 2021.

Yes, it not entirely. Those who were readily identified as being in the Capitol invasion riot were also put on the no-fly, in order to facilitate arrest.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 14:28:26 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 14:15:14 2021.

Looking in the mirror?

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 14:29:31 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 14 14:20:03 2021.

As someone "in the business" for decades, that's the silliest thing I've heard.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jan 14 14:43:16 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 14 14:20:03 2021.

It seems that most of the arrests have actually taken place at the suspects homes, not in DC. They will be processed and more than likely arraigned on video, released, and will be going back in the future to DC for court appearance. That will potentially be very expensive, which if someone is not guilty is pretty rough, if they are guilty tough shit.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 15:34:16 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jan 14 14:43:16 2021.

which if someone is not guilty

For someone to be not guilty of anything, it would have to be mistaken identity or some other major FBI screw-up. If there is clear video of a person inside the Capitol Building, there would at a minimum be an open and shut case against them for trespassing.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jan 14 16:26:59 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 15:34:16 2021.

The way I look at things, if I am going to condemn people for acts that are an affront to America and its traditions, I'm not going to discard another American tradition, the presumption of innocence. As soon as they are found guilty or plead out, they can go on the shit list.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jan 14 16:29:18 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 03:02:23 2021.

they actually got cellphone location data of those individuals accused.


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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 16:39:40 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by pragmatist on Thu Jan 14 16:26:59 2021.

Every individual is entitled to presumption of innocence. I am just suggesting that the scenario you describe is likely to happen exceedingly rarely. But of course it may happen, and for those people the situation sucks.







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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jan 14 16:53:11 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 16:39:40 2021.

The greatest likelihood is those folks are toast. But I am willing to wait to be sure.

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