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Re: Normal Americans Fight Back When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 12 12:22:08 2021, in response to Re: Normal Americans Fight Back When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 11 16:16:32 2021.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 12:32:29 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 12 12:21:05 2021.

No. They’re violent insurrectionists. Plenty of Trump fans did not try to overthrow our government.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 12 12:32:48 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 12:32:29 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:20:00 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 12:32:29 2021.

And they know that the people trying to board the plane were violent insurrectionists, how??

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 15:23:40 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:20:00 2021.

They didn't. They were thrown out of planes for either being rowdy or refusing to wear masks.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:28:07 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 15:23:40 2021.

Now I KNOW you don't believe that.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 12 15:33:57 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:28:07 2021.

Neither do I.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 15:57:20 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:28:07 2021.

WTF?

These people were tossed on their way home from Washington. It took the FBI days to identify most of ones against whom they want to press criminal charges.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 16:00:05 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:28:07 2021.

Yes, I do believe that, because I don’t believe in right wing persecution fantasies.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 16:01:17 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 15:28:07 2021.

Yes, I do believe that, because I don’t believe in right wing persecution fantasies.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:07:24 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 15:57:20 2021.

Exactly. That proves my point.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:08:04 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 16:00:05 2021.

They were tossed because they were wearing Trump swag.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:12:06 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 00:21:57 2021.

Oh, and I just had the displeasure of seeing that ugly mug on Schumer, and he's taking TDS pettiness to the next level: He wants anyone who is ID'd at the gathering in DC to be on permanent No-Fly lists. With his Faginesque scowl and whiny voice, because, you know, Orange Man Bad.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 18:27:35 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:07:24 2021.

So they weren't tossed for being at the Capitol. They were tossed for inappropriate passenger behavior. No shoes, no shirt, no service.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 18:27:55 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:08:04 2021.

You must be joking.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 12 18:33:49 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 18:27:55 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 12 18:38:12 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 12 18:33:49 2021.

Figures

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 12 18:41:27 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 15:57:20 2021.

Exactly.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 18:43:12 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:08:04 2021.

Then how were they able to fly to DC in the first place?

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 12 18:55:57 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 12 18:38:12 2021.

FIGURES WHAT

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Re: Normal Americans Fight Back When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 12 19:27:40 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:12:06 2021.

Someone just heckled Schumer with "You're a socialist—I loathe you!"

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 19:37:12 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:12:06 2021.

He wants anyone who is ID'd at the gathering in DC to be on permanent No-Fly lists.

I suspect you are lying about this. The invasion of the capitol, I could understand; those are violent criminals trying to overthrow the government. But not the people gathered in the Mall or the Ellipse.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 22:55:16 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 18:27:35 2021.

I have a bridge to sell you

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 22:56:30 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 19:37:12 2021.

Jesus Christ, it's on the news! He didn't specify.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:14:06 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 18:12:06 2021.

This is becoming tiresome. The orange man IS bad. There’s nothing wrong with pointing that out.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:22:52 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 12 19:37:12 2021.

He is absolutely lying, or willfully misinformed.
Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer is calling on the FBI to add anyone identified breaching the Capitol during last week’s violent riot to the federal no-fly list.

Schumer sent a letter Tuesday to FBI Director Christopher Wray, saying the attack on the Capitol as Congress was voting to affirm President-elect Joe Biden’s win was “domestic terrorism.” He said those who stormed the Capitol should qualify as “insurrectionists for the No-Fly List.”

AP (emphasis added).

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 10:24:15 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:14:06 2021.

The problem is those who have cried wolf for four years where Trump taking a breath was enough for them to scream bloody murder.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:30:36 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 10:24:15 2021.

Hyperbole. The attacks on Trump were mostly justified and proportional to the offense. It's not like he was impeached for sneezing.

There's also the matter of this: WE CALLED IT! We knew all along that he was an authoritarian fascist who would cling to power at all costs, and even mainstream liberals dismissed it, claiming our republic was strong enough to withstand it. It appears that it is, and will withstand this strike, but it's a massive black eye for our country.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 10:33:59 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 10:24:15 2021.

January 20, 2016, "let the impeachment begin.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 10:38:23 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:30:36 2021.

People were calling for his impeachment PRIOR TO actually being sworn in. Those are the ones I was talking about.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 10:44:07 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 12 22:56:30 2021.

See S-P's details.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 10:48:00 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 10:38:23 2021.

Those people are of no importance. They don't have the votes to make anything happen, and they aren't violent. And the corresponding legions of irrational people are far larger on the right.

Have you noticed that the acts Hillary was accused of with respect to Benghazi, even if all true, are only a tiny fraction as careless as what Trump did in a single hour?

And yet way more people still claim Hillary deserves to be locked up than those that wanted Trump impeached before he was in office.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:29:00 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:30:36 2021.

But he's not. In fact, he wants a peaceful transition. Even if he's the real victim here.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:32:31 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 18:43:12 2021.

This all happened on the return flights.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:33:51 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:22:52 2021.

Well, I didn't have the luxury of having the official AP statement when Eyewitness News ran the story.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:34:20 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:14:06 2021.

Need not that bad.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:34:55 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 10:33:59 2021.

Yep

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 19:36:16 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 10:48:00 2021.

I think trump should be locked up, and do believe that may be coming. I don't believe she did anything wrong WRT Benghazi, that was more a failure of intelligence which we've seen and survived before. It’s not like she was giving speeches at rallies personally thrown that galvanized and riled that mob.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:41:04 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:29:00 2021.

LOL! He actually regretted his “concession” because he thought it was weak.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:41:59 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:32:31 2021.

If they were banned for wearing Trump swag then they would have been banned on their way in too.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:42:41 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:33:51 2021.

I’m pretty sure that Channel 7 reported it accurately too.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:44:03 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:34:20 2021.

???

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 19:44:24 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 13 19:36:16 2021.

Will you shut the fuck up already

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 19:46:12 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:29:00 2021.

In fact, he wants a peaceful transition.

He waited too long to say so, and said it too halfheartedly.

His law suits between Nov. 7 and Dec. 14 were pointless and unsubstantiated, but he had the right to file at least some of them (those that weren't the total height of judicial frivolity).

His claims of a steal between Dec. 14 and Jan. 6 were disgusting and harmful to the country, but not criminal.

His pressuring Pence to violate the Constitution was disgusting and outrageous; I won't argue whether or not it was criminal.

His urging his supporters and endorsing Rudy's call for "trial by combat" is either gross negligence or criminal.

So now he wants a peaceful transition. Almost all of the country hopes we'll get it, and hopefully the National Guard will discourage the nuts from trying anything. But he doesn't get an iota of credit for endorsing it now.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 19:47:43 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 19:33:51 2021.

So you didn't know the details and therefore just fabricated them.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 19:49:07 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 19:46:12 2021.

The phone call to Georgia was pretty lame.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 19:53:18 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 19:49:07 2021.

I don't have time in my life to list all his reprehensible acts.



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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:16:33 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:42:41 2021.

They never said the part about only if they trespassed.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:16:53 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 13 19:47:43 2021.

I stated what I heard.

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Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 13 20:17:31 2021, in response to Re: Insurrectionist Trumpers Whine When They Find Out They're On The No-Fly List, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 19:44:03 2021.

Talk to text mistake. He's not that bad

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