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Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020

Cops pull a Lyft car over for broken tail light, demand passenger produce ID. Passenger refuses, says he wasn't driving and had committed no crime. Police beat, arrest him for contempt of cop.

My understanding is that Georgia law doesn't require you to show ID if you aren't driving a car, loitering, or suspected of a crime. How did this man end up in jail for being a passenger in a Lyft with his kids? He wasn't the subject of the car stop.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Sep 13 08:31:54 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

If they have a report of a suspect fleeing in a similar vehicle they can demand ID. He is still alive unlike possibly the two cops fighting for their lives in California, but you don’t give a damn about that.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 13 09:02:37 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Sep 13 08:31:54 2020.

IF they have such a report, they should explain that to the person being asked for ID. There is no indication in the video that any such report was involved.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 09:24:27 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Sep 13 08:31:54 2020.

Where did I say that I "don't give a damn about" the two cops who were shot in Compton?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 13 09:50:01 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

Big deal

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 13 10:08:46 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

Ain't about the race, liar.
Lawyers identified the man Saturday as Roderick Walker and said he’s currently in jail on two counts of battery and two counts of obstruction. …

The confrontation wasn’t caught on camera … One deputy yells out “he’s biting my hand” as the two deputies continue to hold Walker on the ground …
You were just hoping nobody would actually read the article, were you not?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 10:48:31 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

My understanding is that Georgia law doesn't require you to show ID if you aren't driving a car, loitering, or suspected of a crime.

You are never required to show ID as a passenger and I wouldn't have done so in this instance either.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:06:07 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 10:48:31 2020.

Which begs the question, why did the cops haul him out of the car and beat him up? I agree Roderick was perfectly within his rights to refuse the cops' demands.

I believe he was beaten because the cops felt their authority was being challenged.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:08:44 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 13 10:08:46 2020.

There IS video of the incident. It's in the OP link and does NOT show Walker biting anyone.

The video DOES show, however, Walker being punched in the face several times while being held down by two other cops.



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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 11:15:22 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:06:07 2020.

I haven't watched the video to see what may have escalated things from there and wouldn't want to speculate. But I do know that cops can get very upset when you lawfully decline to comply with their requests. And aside from that, there could be all kinds of other biases held by the cops that ultimately lead to a physical confrontation. Also, cops aren't the only people with biases. We all have biases.

The thing that I keep coming back to is that this type of thing is nothing new. There's video so people that didn't believe that it happened just 10 years ago, now believe it happens. But putting that aside, it happens far less now than 50, 25, or even 10 years ago.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 11:16:34 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:08:44 2020.

According to the article that you posted, there's a gap and the video doesn't show what lead up to the confrontation.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:50:20 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 09:24:27 2020.

You only seem to care about some lives not all.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:53:33 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:06:07 2020.

Why did the BLM rioters shoot 2 cops in compton chanting how they should be dead?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:55:53 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:08:44 2020.

Let's try this. What happened before this video, that's a question you usually always ask, but now miraculously do t wonder in this particular case. Why 7s that?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:57:16 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:50:20 2020.

In your opinion, which isn't a fact.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 13 11:58:02 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

What does being black have to do with it?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:58:37 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:53:33 2020.

BLM "rioters"?

The police are looking for a single suspect, whose ties to an organized group, if any, are unknown.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 13 11:59:31 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:57:16 2020.

I will stick up for Nate here. I think he cares about the cops lives as well. He never made any indication that he doesn't.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:08:00 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 13 11:58:02 2020.

This can happen to anyone, but it is more likely to happen to black males than anyone else. Can you imagine this happening to a white or Asian woman?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:20:24 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:57:16 2020.

Well you certainly don't seem to ever make a post or comment about people hurt that don;t fit your narrative. So yes, from what you project here, you only seem to be concerned about some lives, not all.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 13 12:20:49 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:08:00 2020.

It happens to them as well, BUT, the Media doesn't run with the story.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:21:04 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:08:00 2020.

Can you imagine this happening to a white or Asian woman?

Why not? Of course.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:21:37 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 11:58:37 2020.

Unknown? LOL.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:22:08 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 13 12:20:49 2020.

BINGO!!!

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:25:27 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:21:04 2020.

You really think that the police would beat an Asian woman or a white woman for not showing ID?

I googled and can't find where asian and white women are beaten frequently by police or even at all.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 12:35:43 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 13 11:58:02 2020.

Do you genuinely believe the police would do this to a White Lyft passenger who had nothing to do with the original car stop?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 12:37:20 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:21:37 2020.

Yes, unknown. What evidence do you have, right now, that the suspect is aligned with, or even supports, BLM?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 13 12:39:40 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 13 09:50:01 2020.

You can watch that video and seriously say "Big deal"?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:40:04 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 12:35:43 2020.

White guys, especially trashy looking and acting ones, do get their asses beat by the police too.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 13 12:43:58 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 13 10:08:46 2020.

One deputy yells out “he’s biting my hand” as the two deputies continue to hold Walker on the ground

Which means any alleged biting was not the reason they are holding him on the ground, and so doesn't justify it.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:46:31 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 12:37:20 2020.

LOL!! Yeah okay.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:46:55 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:25:27 2020.

And if they did, the media wouldn't report on it.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:47:49 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:40:04 2020.

White guys, especially trashy looking and acting ones

And there are plenty of them.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 13 13:06:10 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:21:37 2020.

No! Clearly he was pro police.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 13 13:08:23 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:55:53 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:10:03 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:47:49 2020.

Cops tend to treat lower income white men poorly. Cops tend to treat all black men poorly, regardless of wealth or income.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 13 13:15:42 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 12:25:27 2020.

I suspect that the cops would try to peacefully arrest anyone suspected of a crime. Its when the suspect resists arrest that the confrontation turns physical.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:19:59 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 12:46:55 2020.

Of course they would. A few years ago a white guy was beaten to death by the police in Fullerton and there was audio, but no video. That was big local news even as the outraged conservatives on local radio (John and Ken) continued to say that police brutality against black people was fiction.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Sep 13 13:22:16 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

Least he wasn't Jewish. That's where the real hurt happens.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:24:44 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 13 13:15:42 2020.

From what I've read, I don't think that the guy in this instance was even suspected of a crime.

Not following instructions puts cops on alert, especially when it's a black man. I can see where the cops may have unnecessarily escalated this based on his refusing to comply with an unlawful demand.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 13 13:25:37 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Sep 13 11:55:53 2020.

He must think that any violence perpetrated by his black criminal "victim(s)" is cartoon violence.



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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:26:05 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Sep 13 13:22:16 2020.

Agreed. But how did you find out that the cops weren't jewish?

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 13:26:11 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 13 12:39:40 2020.

Of course he can. That's the kind of callous creature TD is.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 13:30:29 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Biting Deputies, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 13 13:25:37 2020.

Claiming you were "bitten" doesn't make it true. Note that the article makes no mention of said deputy being taken to the ER for treatment of a human bite wound, nor does the police statement make any reference to such an injury.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 13:32:45 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:19:59 2020.

So obviously it happens to both.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black (Officer Fired)

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:38:09 2020, in response to Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 07:23:06 2020.

The officer that was captured on video punching Roderick Walker was reportedly just fired.

Link

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:39:17 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 13:32:45 2020.

I never said otherwise. I said that it wouldn't happen to an asian or white woman and you claimed that it would.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Sep 13 13:48:38 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:10:03 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black (Officer Fired)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 13 14:01:37 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black (Officer Fired), posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:38:09 2020.

As he should be.

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Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 13 14:34:41 2020, in response to Re: Being A Lyft Passenger While Black, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 13 13:39:17 2020.

Yes, I read it correctly, what's the point

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