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2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 17:27:41 2020

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-molotov-nypd-brooklyn-lawyers-charged-20200531-nxamwxnjmzgvzmczi6z2ypcbzi-story.html

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Dave on Sun May 31 17:36:16 2020, in response to 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 17:27:41 2020.

Say goodbye to your law licenses, morons. Was it worth it? The sad thing is, in jail they'll be hailed as heros.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun May 31 17:42:04 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Dave on Sun May 31 17:36:16 2020.

There is a market for jailhouse attorneys.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:10:46 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Dave on Sun May 31 17:36:16 2020.

I can't fathom why they willingly destroyed their lives doing this, if the charges are borne out. Both of them will be much older and completely unemployable when they finally get out of federal prison.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 18:18:20 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:10:46 2020.

This type of crime doesn't keep people unemployed look at Bill Ayers or the rest of the Weathermen.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:21:41 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 18:18:20 2020.

Trying to firebomb the cops?

They won't even be able to work in McDonald's.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 18:24:46 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 18:18:20 2020.

Do any of them hold law licenses?



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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:26:25 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Sun May 31 18:24:46 2020.

Both of them, apparently.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 18:27:57 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:26:25 2020.

I was referring to Ayers and the Weathermen, noting that they were distinct from these two lawyers.




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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 18:29:07 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Sun May 31 18:24:46 2020.

Bernardine Dohrn got rejected for her Law License but still became a professor of law at Northwestern. Universities love people like this.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 31 18:29:29 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:21:41 2020.

Didn't Ayers and others do better and get university jobs?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 18:45:46 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 18:29:07 2020.

I see Dohrn was only ever convicted of misdemeanors. Firebombing a police car sounds more like felony arson to me.

So, so far it still seems like apples and oranges to me.



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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 18:47:44 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 31 18:29:29 2020.

Bill Ayers held a position with the first Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Apparently his terrorist past did not discourage mr Obama from seeking his help and apparently his terrorist past was overlooked by Obama supporters.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:50:04 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 18:47:44 2020.

What crimes on the federal, state, or local level was Ayers convicted of?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 18:51:11 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:50:04 2020.

Aren’t you supposed to be out rioting right now or are you all talk?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 19:10:28 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 18:51:11 2020.

Aren't you supposed to be apologizing for calling Ayers a man with a "terrorist past", when, in fact, he was never convicted of terrorism, or any other crime whatsoever.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 19:22:39 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 18:47:44 2020.

No, he didn’t. That’s a pernicious lie.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 19:24:09 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 19:10:28 2020.

OJ have never been convicted of murder but i still call him a murderer.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 19:28:57 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 19:10:28 2020.

Why don’t you answer my question little tinker bell. You said that you support the rioters. There are riots going on in your home town now. Why are you here, talking shit instead of backing up your rioting brothers and sisters? Are you all talk and bullshit little man?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 19:29:30 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 19:22:39 2020.

Yes, somehow holding one fund-raiser for State Senate candidate Obama has become being a most trusted advisor, despite being debunked many times. Olog likes that one too.





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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 19:32:49 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 19:24:09 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Dave on Sun May 31 19:33:14 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:10:46 2020.

Stupid is as stupid does.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 19:44:03 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 19:10:28 2020.

On March 5 there WAS a townhouse at 18W11 St in Manhattan. On March 6, the townhouse was destroyed because the weather underground was building Bombs in the building. Bill Ayers was the founder of the Weathermen/Weather Underground. Now you can defend him and say he was never convicted. I would remind you that one of your other hero’s, Adolf Hitler was never tried or convicted, either. Not explain why you claim to support the rioters but are not out there with them.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 19:44:50 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 19:44:03 2020.

That was marchb5 1970

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 31 20:45:39 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 19:10:28 2020.

Are you fucken for real?? The guy was the leader of the Weather Underground which was responsible for a number of bombings in the 60's and 70's, including government buildings. And he was married to another terrorist, Bernadette Dorn. Why don't you just leave this board and go fuck yourself.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun May 31 21:28:33 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 18:51:11 2020.

Or at least handing out cups of water and towels.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun May 31 21:29:49 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 31 20:45:39 2020.

Good one

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 22:04:22 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 19:44:03 2020.

Adolf Hitler was tried and convicted. He wrote Mein Kampf in prison.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 31 22:19:18 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 22:04:22 2020.

Well...that was before he took control of Germany.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 22:20:54 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun May 31 21:28:33 2020.

LOL, It’s the least the little shit could do

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 05:56:41 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 19:32:49 2020.

Except it was discovered that the FBI investigation into Ayers and the Weatherman was fundamentally illegal, both in its methods and execution. That's why the case they were building against him fell apart.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 05:58:24 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 31 20:45:39 2020.

The case was thrown out because the FBI was doing completely illegal things, and making up charges out of whole cloth.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 1 06:00:07 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 05:56:41 2020.

But society and academia forgave him because he was a leftist.

If he targeted an abortion clinic or ACLU then he would not be embraced by the mainstream and be unemployable.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 06:04:26 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 31 19:44:03 2020.

OK, if you're gonna find Ayers extrajudicially guilty of crimes for which he was never convicted, then:

George Zimmerman is a murderer

Donald J. Trump is a spy, extortionist, traitor, and rapist

Daniel Pantaleo is a murderer

Derek Chauvin is a murderer

See how that works?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 06:06:58 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 1 06:00:07 2020.

No, the FBI needed to have a terrorist to charge, so they stooped to making shit up. The judge rightly threw the case out because of that.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 06:52:40 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 06:04:26 2020.

Well, if you had reasonably deep pockets, none of the above would dare sue you for libel for your statements. :)




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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 06:55:14 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 06:06:58 2020.

There was not untainted proof beyond a reasonable doubt of Ayers' guilt of a serious crime. Ditto was true of OJ.

But in each case, it is reasonable to believe that they did in fact commit serious felonies (OJ more serious than Ayers, but nevertheless serious with respect to Ayers too).



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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 07:37:34 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 06:52:40 2020.

😂😂😂

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 07:40:57 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 06:55:14 2020.

The difference is that OJ was given a fair and square trial, and was acquitted by a jury.

In the Ayers case, the government broke every investigative rule in the book in their frenzy to put Ayers man in federal prison. There was no trial.

If there was "reasonable proof" of Ayers' guilt, then the FBI should have been able to build a case against him by the book, without difficulty.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 08:29:05 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 07:40:57 2020.

???

OJ was acquitted.

Ayers was never successfully charged, presumably because of lack of evidence.

Yet reasonable people can hold the opinion that both of these guys committed felonies.




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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 10:02:38 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 06:04:26 2020.

That's all very interesting but why are you such a pussy coward. You claim that you support rioters yet when push comes to shove, and the rioters are in your town, why are you not out there with them? Are you a little bitch coward?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 10:04:42 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 10:02:38 2020.

I don't have to explain myself to you.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 1 10:35:22 2020, in response to 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 17:27:41 2020.

Im glad they got charged. Serves them right.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by DAnD124 on Mon Jun 1 10:37:51 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 07:40:57 2020.

Ayers has admitted to committing terrorist acts.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jun 1 10:45:14 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Dave on Sun May 31 17:36:16 2020.

Who cares about their license. They committed treason.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 10:47:50 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jun 1 10:45:14 2020.

They gave aid and comfort to enemies of the United States, or fought with the enemy in a war against us?

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 10:54:06 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 10:02:38 2020.

Oh, and what I do with my time is none of your fucking business.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:02:12 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 05:56:41 2020.

This is one of those cases that conservatives like to refer to "getting off on a technicality." Just because the investigation was botched and Ayers can't be convicted doesn't mean he didn't actually do it. I had the same argument against Train Dude when I accused Donald Trump of being a criminal.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:04:45 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 08:29:05 2020.

And he was never charged because the FBI botched the investigation. A botched investigation doesn't imply lack of guilt.

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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:05:40 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 10:04:42 2020.

Yes, because we already know, You talk the talk.

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