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Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020 "If hydroxychloroquine becomes an accepted treatment, several pharmaceutical companies stand to profit, including shareholders and senior executives with connections to the president. Mr. Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine."I hope nobody thought Trump was pushing this particular medication out of genuine benevolence for the people... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 08:55:44 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. His investment in Sanofi isn't going to help him enough if Deutsche Bank doesn't bail out his real estate holdings. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:57:20 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 08:55:44 2020. Trump will just tie the bank up in court for years, if they don't bail him out. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:27:06 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:57:20 2020. They have bigger problems than Trump. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 09:27:35 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. Oh really? Well, that makes that Duh of the Week.I was wondering why he keeps pushing it. Not to mention the government BOUGHT (with taxpayer money) a million pill lot for the “stockpile”. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Apr 7 09:29:22 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. Dear lord it's a generic! They're not making anything over it. And his "financial interest" is via a fund.Ask yourself - who has an interest in the best solution *not* being a treatment regiment that costs less than $100 to even the uninsured in America? Bill Gates' vaccine and Gilead's phase 3 drug trial for starters. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:30:00 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. I own shares of both Mylan and Teva. Both manufacture hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets. If I mention the drugs favorably, am I doing it because I have a financial interest or because I think it works? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:36:10 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Apr 7 09:29:22 2020. best solutionThis treatment is clearly at best a minor tool in the fight against covid-19. In the last month it's been used on many thousands of people, in many countries, and death rates have not come down in any significant way. There may be no well-documented large double-blind trials, but the world as a whole makes for a poorly undocumented large trial, and the results are nothing great. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:38:18 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:30:00 2020. Everyone with shares in broad based mutual funds owns a bit of all the drug makers.Trump is probably pushing an unproven drug just because he's an idiot, and not to make money. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 09:38:45 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:30:00 2020. Given the absolute lack of proof, I'd say it’s financial interest, however marginal in the case of a stockholder at your level.. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:42:54 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:38:18 2020. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:43:19 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 09:38:45 2020. WABB! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 09:46:42 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:30:00 2020. You're not the President of the United States, trying to benefit financially from a reboot of the plague. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 09:50:25 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 7 09:43:19 2020. So you’re a amateur quack. That’s nothing to be proud of.... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:58:31 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 09:38:45 2020. Given the absolute lack of proof, it's inappropriate to attribute a dishonest motive.Trump has done any number of demonstrably dishonest things with adding speculative ones to the list. And stupidity and perceived political advantage are excellent motives in this case. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Apr 7 10:49:36 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. How much money are all of those people making who claim it brought them back from the dead?The Doctors? The WHO? I'll be waiting for the proff. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:09:19 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:27:06 2020. As President of the US, he can make their lives very hard. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 11:10:54 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:09:19 2020. Won’t be forever. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:12:58 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 11:10:54 2020. Long enough, especially if he gets re-elected. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:14:42 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:38:18 2020. IAAWTP. His idea of "leadership" and "making people feel good". |
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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 7 11:19:05 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. The Beobachter Slimes lies again. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Apr 7 11:24:37 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 7 11:19:05 2020. Pravda olog strikes again. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:25:19 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 09:46:42 2020. But if he directly owns shares and not just through a mutual fund, it's not improbable. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:34:22 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:58:31 2020. If bingbong means lack of proof of character or other motivations, then I disagree. I see no reason why a person would not have financial motivations if they directly own stock in the relevant companies. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:37:16 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:34:22 2020. ???Not following. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 7 11:38:42 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 09:38:18 2020. Trump indeed sounds desperate which in turn makes him sound stupid. His pushing the drug is part of his getting America back to work ASAP edict, which is expected to jump start the economy and better his chances, based on economic recovery, of getting reelected. Although, IMO bread lines going around the block will not help Biden. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:41:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 7 11:38:42 2020. His pushing the drug is part of his getting America back to work ASAP edictThat only works if the drug is in fact reasonably effective. So far the evidence seems to be of some really minor positive effect. |
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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:42:14 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 7 11:19:05 2020. So you're saying Trump has no financial interest whatsoever in Sanofi? Otherwise it's not a lie. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:50:00 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:37:16 2020. Bingbong said "Given the absolute lack of proof". I'm assuming she means lack of proof of character (e.g., honesty, concern for fellow human beings) or other motivations (e.g., he cares about the people he's addressing for some reason). In those cases, financial incentive would be a very definite possibility, since he owns stock in the company and not through a mutual fund or some such.If it's lack of proof of anything, including stock ownership, then who knows. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:53:48 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:50:00 2020. She was responding to a hypothetical question of Dave's, where he asked whether he would be acting from financial or altruistic motivation. Therefore it is natural to assume that she meant given the absolute lack of proof about motivation. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:07:50 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:12:58 2020. That's highly doubtful, to be honest.In the worst case, it's also doubtful he’ll make it through a second term. The most patriotic thing he could do is withdraw from the election now. We need someone that can actually do this job,now more than ever. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:11:32 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:41:15 2020. In a few cases, not many. And it’s all anecdotal. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 12:12:13 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 11:53:48 2020. So yeah, I think suspecting a financial motivation is not inappropriate at all. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:14:35 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 11:50:00 2020. No, he lacks proof hydroxycholorquine works. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 12:16:24 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:07:50 2020. The way things are now, making predictions about the election is no better than throwing darts blindfolded or flipping a coin. I agree that we need someone who could actually do the job. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 12:20:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 7 12:12:13 2020. I found her post to indicate more than a suspicion, but rather a conclusion. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:24:56 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:07:50 2020. What do you mean that its doubtful that he'll make it through a second term? Maybe he'll die of complications of lung cancer? Doubtful. He doesn't smoke. Throat cancer? Doubtful. His dentist is legitimate! Maybe that's just your wishful thinking, you ugly, hateful bitch. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:32:41 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:14:35 2020. You have anecdotal evidence that treatment for lung cancer doesn't work, don't you? |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:36:18 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. People are dying from COVID-19 and you have the nerve to post this.I don't care if Trump has an financial interest or not. All I (and everyone else) care(s) about if the drug works and saves lives. Perhaps when you are in need of Hydroxychloroquine then we will remind you of this post, jackass. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 12:39:16 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:36:18 2020. All I (and everyone else) care(s) about if the drug works and saves lives.But Trump is hyping it even though the evidence that it saves lives is extremely minimal. This drug (and many others) are worth trying. But none are proven to the extent Trump suggests chloroquine is proven. And he is totally lying when he says "it can't hurt." It can, and does. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 12:41:21 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:36:18 2020. So you're OK with the president profiteering off this pandemic? Thought so.Hydrochloroquine hasn't yet been proven as a therapeutic treatment for coronavirus, and people have already died from using it to medicate themselves, on Trump's advice.. I have already stated that if hydrochloroquine and azithromycin are approved by the FDA for human treatment of COVID-19, that will be just fine. However, that hasn't happened yet. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:41:56 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 12:39:16 2020. That's up to doctors and President Trump is not a doctor. But he is trying to fast track this. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:42:01 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020. TDS Tinkerbell seeking out more obscure nonsense in his never ending quest to do what the American voters refuse to do. Poor little guy. Making his life miserable , still. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:42:58 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 12:41:21 2020. But that's not the story....it was about Trump's financial interest. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:43:53 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:42:01 2020. He has nothing better to do than post hatred if President Trump. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 12:43:57 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:42:01 2020. Trump just happens to have money in the company that produces the very medication he's been advertising in his daily press conferences?Yeah, OK... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 12:45:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:42:58 2020. That was the first line of my response to you. Trump has money in the company that makes the very medication he's been advertising in his daily press conferences. You don't find that extremely suspicious? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:46:36 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 12:43:57 2020. I may have as well along with millions of other mutual fund investors. Now what. Scrotum breath? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 12:47:42 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 7 12:42:58 2020. But that's not the story....it was about Trump's financial interest.If you happened to actually read what JayZ cited, you would see that Trump's financial interest is a very minor issue in the article. The main issue in the article is that no one has really demonstrated that it does much to help. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 12:48:59 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 7 12:46:36 2020. You're not creating a conflict of interest, because you're not the president. |
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