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Re: Trump Hasy Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 8 11:35:57 2020, in response to Re: Trump Hasy Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 11:33:37 2020.

No it is not. Complaining about the ban. If he didn't do 8t, you would have complained too. Totally on topic to the post I responded to

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 11:37:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 8 11:33:06 2020.

I have put up other proof and am proven right.
You are nothing more than a right-winged echo chamber.

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 8 11:42:18 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 09:46:42 2020.

............

So the left has now pivoted from, "Trump NEEDS everyone to isolate and kick the bug so the country can reopen to help the economy to help his reelection bid!" all the way around to, "Trump wants you all to be sick so he can make a tiny profit off a generic drug that he has roughly $99 invested in!"

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Re: Trump Hasy Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 11:45:06 2020, in response to Re: Trump Hasy Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 8 11:35:57 2020.

Total speculation on your part.
The flights should have ended totally, no exception.

Intelligence reports were from NOVEMBER about this in China. Trump ignored them. Yes there are articles out about that too today.

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 8 11:52:11 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 8 11:42:18 2020.

It's disgusting. I am so k of it.

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 8 11:52:30 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 8 11:42:18 2020.

It's disgusting. I am sick of it.

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 8 12:52:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 11:37:05 2020.

You are repeating that Rachel maddow garbage again

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 13:05:55 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 8 12:52:05 2020.

I don't watch her, and no it isn't.

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LOL

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 8 14:13:16 2020, in response to Re: HEADLINE NEVER CHANGED, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 7 17:50:06 2020.

I clicked the link, he got the headline right.

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 8 14:14:07 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020.

A financial interest in a generic drug that's cheap, doesn't make much money, and the ingredients come from India.

I doubt he's going to make even 10% of the money that Russia donates to Hilarity.

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Re: Trump Hasy Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 8 17:58:30 2020, in response to Re: Trump Hasy Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 11:45:06 2020.

Lol! Yeah okay. You tell me they could have shut everything down in January much less November. Even February. Everyone would have been screaming. We are used to the idea now and it was gradual. But there's no way anyone could have comprehended this. And it's all bs if you say they could have

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Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 8 18:48:20 2020, in response to Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 08:09:32 2020.

That should put this to bed, Snopes has fact checked and found the NY Times false, lolol.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 18:59:50 2020, in response to Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 8 18:48:20 2020.

This is the entirety of what the NYT said about Trump's personal holdings. Is this untrue?

As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi.



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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 8 20:15:28 2020, in response to Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 8 18:48:20 2020.

Wow. The Beobachter Slimes has lost Snopes.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:17:22 2020, in response to Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 8 18:48:20 2020.

Nope. The Times said small investment, and it's true.



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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 8 20:19:09 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 18:59:50 2020.

The "largest holding" as in 3% of the fund is in Sanofi. "Largest holding" makes it sounds like it's a mutual fund with more than 50% held in Sanofi.

There. Is. Nothing. Here.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:28:48 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 8 20:19:09 2020.

I agree there is nothing important here. There is also no lie here.



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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 20:38:22 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:17:22 2020.

Factually true, but misleading. That's pretty much the point.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 20:40:08 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:28:48 2020.

I disagree. It implies that he would profit when that is not necessarily true at all.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:57:33 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 20:38:22 2020.

Give me a break! It was one sentence toward the bottom of a very long article.



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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:58:25 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 20:40:08 2020.

Did you actually read the article?


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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Charles G on Wed Apr 8 20:59:45 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 18:59:50 2020.

The fact that the line was technically "true" doesn't make it good journalism. I liken it to striking a match and then yelling fire in a crowded theater. There was indeed a "fire", but there was never any danger.

I think it is a gratuitous smear.

The authors and their editors knew, or should have known, that it is a de minimis holding.

The authors and their editors also knew, or should have known, that these drugs are widely available through many many manufacturers and hold almost no potential for windfall profits.

Finally, the authors and their editors knew, or should have known, that a meaningful share of their readership would latch onto this line like lions on red meat.

While not a major part of the article, that tiny section of the article brought lots of attention and probably resulted in far more "clicks" than the article would have gotten without it.

So, to my mind, they either knew what they were doing and used the line as click-bait for the faithful or they didn't know what they were doing and didn't understand what the financial interest was.

Neither is particularly good journalism.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 21:00:12 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:57:33 2020.

It was the sentence that JayZee quoted. He quoted the NYT to add legitimacy.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)i did

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 21:00:53 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:58:25 2020.

I did. The NYT should not have included that. It was irrelevant.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 8 21:04:03 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 20:28:48 2020.

It proves what phonies you and Little JayZero are.

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Re: Trump’s personal stake in the malaria-drug maker Sanofi could be as small as $99

Posted by The Silence on Wed Apr 8 21:07:11 2020, in response to Re: Trump’s personal stake in the malaria-drug maker Sanofi could be as small as $99, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 7 16:52:05 2020.

My sister's ex-boyfriend has more money in Apple. Should I rib on him every time a new iPhone comes out?

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Apr 9 02:45:18 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker), posted by Charles G on Wed Apr 8 20:59:45 2020.

The fact that the line was technically "true" doesn't make it good journalism. I liken it to striking a match and then yelling fire in a crowded theater. There was indeed a "fire", but there was never any danger.

I think your analogy is not quite accurate. It's more like somebody lights a match, and somebody else yells fire. The NY Times never highlighted that fact; the readers did.

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Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)i did

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 9 09:31:30 2020, in response to Re: Snopes Fact-check: FALSE (Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker)i did, posted by Easy on Wed Apr 8 21:00:53 2020.

Agreed. But it wasn't a "lie," as was claimed higher up in this chain.



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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 10 06:13:27 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 7 12:07:50 2020.

I thought he wasn't gonna make it through this term? After all, you've said that here several times!

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 10 06:27:18 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 11:35:46 2020.

That's fine-I have my fat pension to let me eek by. Although I'm too handsome for my face to be hidden by a mask.

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Re: Trump’s personal stake in the malaria-drug maker Sanofi could be as small as $99

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 10 06:28:26 2020, in response to Re: Trump’s personal stake in the malaria-drug maker Sanofi could be as small as $99, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 7 15:35:12 2020.

Cognitive dissonance!!

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Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 11:20:27 2020, in response to Re: Trump Has Financial Interest In Hydroxychloroquine Maker: NYT, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 10 06:13:27 2020.

Well in fairness to bingbong, there are still a few months left before he's re-innaugerated

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