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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:32:04 2020 Rating |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020, in response to Trump approval rating, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:32:04 2020. I want to see what Trump's approval rating is 30 days from now...if I live that long. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:58:21 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020. Same, here. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 1 10:02:27 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020. Come on. You will still be alive by the end of the month. The end of next month, the end of this year, and the end of this decade. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 1 10:04:09 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:58:21 2020. Another one with negativity. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 1 10:06:51 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020. Why? Do you have the virus? What I'd like to hear about are the numbers of those who had the virus & got over it. Haven't heard to much of that. Not to downplay the severity of this, but folks should be reminded that this is not an automatic death sentence. Hearing the numbers of survivors would reinforce the fact that you can get over this. Those cured numbers would help with a bit of optomistic "spin" |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:08:01 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 1 10:02:27 2020. You don't know any such thing, and neither do I. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 1 10:13:17 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:08:01 2020. It's called thinking positive. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:14:09 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 1 10:06:51 2020. Given the level of precautions now in effect for 80% of the American people, I am fully aware that this virus can, and does have the capability of killing a great many of us. Neither you, nor I, can predict who this virus will strike next, or whether it will be survivable. I know several people who have contracted it, one of whom is currently critical in Columbia Presbyterian. I'm sure all of them didn't expect to catch this virus, too.I'm not so arrogant as to think it can't happen to me. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 10:20:50 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:14:09 2020. Mortality rate in NYC as of yesterday's data is 12.8%. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 10:21:58 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020. It’ll probably be better. People are idiots. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:23:58 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 10:20:50 2020. That's catastrophically bad. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 10:24:06 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:14:09 2020. These measures aren’t to protect me, they’re to protect others. I accept that because we live in a society. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 10:27:06 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:23:58 2020. The overwhelming majority of deaths are in the 65+ age groups and more than a third are 75+. I'd say the odds are in your favor of surviving, if you catch it. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:34:30 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020. Oh please |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:35:18 2020, in response to Trump approval rating, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:32:04 2020. What a rag that paper has become. They can't handle the numbers so put their leftist bullshit into it. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 10:36:27 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 10:20:50 2020. How do you get that? I see roughly 50,000 cases and 1,000 deaths, which of course is still very bad. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 10:36:29 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:35:18 2020. They can handle the numbers, that’s why they’re reporting on it. That’s how journalism works: tell the whole god damn story and not just report numbers. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:36:47 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:23:58 2020. It's bad, but that's also out of the number tested. Many more are not tested |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 10:38:34 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:36:47 2020. That's true. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 10:39:17 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 1 10:06:51 2020. Not to downplay the severity of this, but folks should be reminded that this is not an automatic death sentence.Of course not. But suppose it kills 2% of those who get it. Without isolation, everyone will get it before a vaccine is available, because it's really easy to catch. So that's 6 million dead Americans. Probably more because eventually the medical system will collapse and a lot of people who could have been saved with good medical care won't be saved because good medical care will no longer be available. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 10:42:07 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:34:30 2020. Do you know the details of JayZ's health? If he has a compromised respiratory system, he is in serious danger even though he isn't a senior citizen. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Apr 1 10:47:47 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 10:39:17 2020. That's the real issue. When considering the severity of the virus, also note that some young and otherwise healthy survivors have to go through hell battling it, e.g. David Lat, who is doing better now after having been in critical condition, on a ventilator and sedated for a week. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:56:28 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 10:42:07 2020. Oh stop.And he can answer Me Rationalization |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 11:16:25 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:56:28 2020. Oh stop.WTF? You're making light of potential health issues now? Some people are really at serious risk, and you don't know which ones they are. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Apr 1 11:22:08 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 10:20:50 2020. Mortality rate in NYC as of yesterday's data is 12.8%.Would you share your data and calculations? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 11:23:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 11:16:25 2020. And his response of “oh stop” is a hypocritical rationalization on his part. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 11:40:14 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 10:36:27 2020. I was calculating deaths per cases hospitalized, as opposed to total diagnosed. I should have stated that so my apologies for the miscommunication. Of total diagnosed the mortality rate is 2.6%. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 1 11:43:14 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 11:23:15 2020. +200 |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Apr 1 11:52:47 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 11:40:14 2020. I was calculating deaths per cases hospitalized, as opposed to total diagnosed.That's why we should trust only peer reviewed articles. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 12:08:57 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 11:40:14 2020. OK, thanks.Of total diagnosed the mortality rate is 2.6%. That eminent medical journal, Wikipedia, says 914 on 38,000, which would be a bit lower, but pretty close to the same. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 12:13:17 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 12:08:57 2020. My data is from here, which is more authoritative that wikipedia:https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 12:33:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 12:13:17 2020. Ah, thank you. This suggests that new cases have leveled off, and possibly even are starting to drop, since March 19th. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 1 12:44:56 2020, in response to Trump approval rating, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:32:04 2020. Beobachter Slimes hit piece?… some independent voters and Democrats are giving him a measure of credit for his handling of the crisis. …Translated: Trump's winning them over and they hate that fact. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 1 13:13:17 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 1 09:37:25 2020. And 60 days, 90 days and so on.... November's a long time coming, especially in politics. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 13:24:10 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 10:36:29 2020. "journalism works" by burying the point, giving a headline that doesn't match the story, and putting a "gotcha" in the last paragraph typically.-signed, an obsessive news reader whose figured out the formula. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 13:26:19 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 13:24:10 2020. Yes, that is unfortunately how it works nowadays. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 1 13:34:52 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 1 13:13:17 2020. Clinging to hope. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 1 13:36:51 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 1 13:34:52 2020. For this nation and the world, yes. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 1 14:00:57 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 13:24:10 2020. Well said. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 1 14:11:26 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 1 13:36:51 2020. No, that's for you and your petty political hatred. You can always flee to canada. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 15:50:57 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 10:36:47 2020. We're following behind other countries. To be tested is going to be "strongly recommended" if not a law soon.Thailand seems to be on the ball for the antigen test. I'd rather have that done in the future. You don't want to get tested as a current carrier at this time. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 15:51:45 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 1 13:13:17 2020. “President Trump is a ratings hit. Since reviving the daily White House briefing Mr. Trump and his coronavirus updates have attracted an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’ |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 17:41:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 15:50:57 2020. All well and good, but the point was that the deAth toll percentage is high simply because the actual test rate is not |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 17:42:20 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 1 11:23:15 2020. No it is not. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 1 17:51:45 2020, in response to Trump approval rating, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 1 09:32:04 2020. FOX |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 18:03:27 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 1 17:41:05 2020. But on the other hand, the deaths lag the incidence of infection - people are counted now as infected but alive who won't be alive in 2 weeks. So it's not clear in the long run whether the death toll will be higher or lower than it is right now (roughly 2%). |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Apr 1 18:37:43 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 18:03:27 2020. As I understand it, It's already at least 3% of the counted cases, before the lag.NYC Health Look at the gray "citywide total" bars in the graphs near the bottom of the page. 544.21 cases per 100,000 people. (That's 1 in 200 by the way). 16.36 deaths. 16.36/544.21=Over 3% Am I reading that right? Best hope IMO is that lots of people are getting it without symptoms, or at least without sensing a need to get tested, and collective immunity is growing (and also the death rate is down). |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Apr 1 20:30:59 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Apr 1 18:37:43 2020. There's a much easier way.At the top. Cases: 45,707 Deaths: 1,374 Pct: 100 * 1374/45707 = 3.0% |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 20:44:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump approval rating, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Apr 1 18:37:43 2020. You're discussing NYC and I was discussing the United States as a whole. NYC has a really high ratio. |
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